Man

Turkey

#1097 Jun 6, 2011
Fullermassage wrote:
Most guys prefer a female MT because in America, most hetero men get uncomfortable getting any type of pleasure from another man. This seems to confuse the American male and he just doesn't know how to cope. So, he turns it into a sexual thing and ergo - he must have a female MT.
A TP is a trigger point.
Yea. I thınk you are rıght about that. If there ıs not sexual. why should people care about the sex. the gender. The ıs no need to care about the gender ıf there ıs nothıng sexual?

People dont care about who takes care about theır jacket as long as the job ıs done as long as ıt ıs well done?
Always Sleepy

United States

#1098 Jun 10, 2011
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Relax_LMTs

Pinehurst, NC

#1099 Jun 13, 2011
To all you LMT's, let me ask you something: are you or are you not in the business of providing pleasure to your clients? People come to you for pleasure, not repair, regardless of what you wish was the case. I know arousal isn't your intention, but it's typically a byproduct with men. God, in the interest of furthering His human race, created people (namely men in this case) with a mechanism that arouses them when they are touched. Whether you acknowledge that or not, it's the truth, and YOU chose it for a profession, so quit acting so appalled at a normal and natural reaction to touch.
Stop trying to turn your profession into something it is not. Calling it "therapy" assumes there is something wrong with clients when they come in, and as if you can do anything about it if they did. You are not doctors, nor does anyone expect you to be. Nobody cares about your license or your degree. The fact that you can categorize techniques, recite the history of massage, name some physiological facts and functions, and spout off with Eastern terminology and massage techniques doesn't make the massage feel better--and that's why we are there--period! The best non-sexual massage I've ever got was from a girl who was a bank teller by trade. Far better than the LMT's and the massage academics out there. It's about correct touch, being creative/different, and often more important, having the correct attitude. It's not about you!! You are turning your business and your profession into a show that's all about YOU, and not the client--as if we came to watch you dance or something. Your paper degrees are pointless, and are in no way related to the quality of massage as much as you wish they were. In fact, the more "decorated" the masseuse, the worse attitude they tend to have ("me"-oriented). You are ruining your profession. Your job is to rub bodies, but you hate bodies and hate their natural functions
I'm not suggesting you prostitute yourselves or do anything illegal, but the bottom line is that 199 out of 200 men are sexually aroused in some way from a massage whether they admit it to you or not. You rub a naked, nearly naked, or fully clothed man on the tip of his toes, the top of his head, or anywhere in between he's going to get at least a little turned on. It's the career path you've chosen. You can either continue to whine and be insulted by it, or you can tactfully and legally address it. If you see the client is getting aroused to the point it's noticeable, how about tactfully suggesting that he excuse himself to the bathroom or politely excuse yourself for a minute and ask that he "relaxes" in your absence while you hand him a towel. Once you come back in, he'll probably be fast asleep. And don't give me that issue of cum smell. Feet, butt, B.O., perfume, smokers, a menstruating vagina, etc. smell 100 times stronger; and either way it's YOUR job to clean between each session, cum or no cum.
Sheeesh ... is it really that big of a deal?! So your touch turned someone on. I WISH I had that problem. I could think of about 6,000 other problems much worse than that. Don't take it personally. It just means your massage feels good. Why does that offend you so much? Find a way to be a servant to your clients, while still maintaining control of the situation.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#1100 Jun 14, 2011
Interesting.

You, a NON LMT feel qualified to tell a real LMT not only what their job is, but how to do it.

Interesting.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#1101 Jun 14, 2011
To answer your question, no I am not in the business to provide pleasure for my clients, therefore, your argument is invalid.
Dr G

Crici˙ma, Brazil

#1102 Jun 15, 2011
bellfly wrote:
Interesting.
You, a NON LMT feel qualified to tell a real LMT not only what their job is, but how to do it.
Interesting.
In every therapeutic setting the client defines WHAT the job is, not the practicioner. It is presumed the practicioner knows HOW to do the job. Your outrage is unjustified - as is his.
Trollbuster

United States

#1103 Jun 15, 2011
Dr G wrote:
<quoted text>
In every therapeutic setting the client defines WHAT the job is, not the practicioner. It is presumed the practicioner knows HOW to do the job. Your outrage is unjustified - as is his.
Seriously, have you not read ANY of Bellfly's posts. He/She doesn't seem to have outrage, just some off the wall humor.

Since when does the client dictate what the job is? Are the nuts running the joint? In what profession does the client tell the practioner what to do? Can I tell my doctor to do my taxes since I define his job?
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#1105 Jun 16, 2011
Relax_LMTs wrote:
To all you LMT's, let me ask you something: are you or are you not in the business of providing pleasure to your clients?
Are physical therapists in the business of providing pleasure to their clients? Or radiology techs? Or medical assistants? Or phlebotomists?
Our clients' pleasure comes from the relief of their pain or discomfort through our skilled touch.
Your post was a whole lot of jealous whining. Yeah, we have licenses. Many of us also have degrees. On Ohio, I am recognized by the State Medical Board as a Limited Branch Medical Practitioner, with the authority to assess, develop a treatment plan, and treat.
Your friend hasn't a clue what she's working on, where the muscle begins or ends, what the muscle does (its action) or where the nerve supply for that muscle comes from. As the saying goes, "If you don't know where you're going, any road will get you there." So she fluffs a little, buffs a little, and you get your jollies. That's not Massage Therapy.
Are you incensed that I don't have to accept horny twentysomethings dry-humping my table in order to turn a profit? Are you jealous that I can (and do) carefully choose my clientele and turn away the pervs?
Well, get over it. Massage Therapy regulation has come a long way in the last 10 years, and state laws are getting tougher for the amateurs every year.
Subjectivity

Westbank, Canada

#1106 Jun 22, 2011
I was watching a Seinfeld episode looked up masseuse and ended up on this thread. I got sucked in due too how much depth this profession can have, which I have come to realize is true for most professions if one takes the time to really explore it. Anyway to my untrained eye I would have to disagree with some of the black/white remarks on here about pervs and good clients. It may be a simple way of looking at the world but I highly doubt it reflects reality very well. There may very well be pervs who appear to be good clients and people who appear to be pervs that lack control and end up feeling extremely embarassed. Obviously both cases would be outliers but that does not negate the existance of both cases. From reading I would say this profession is ripe for projection on both the clients behalf, in some cases, due to hangups in society causing a crosswiring between intimate touch and intimacy wherein the client, he or she, project advances from the massage therapist that do not really exist. I can see this being a two way street though where someone gets physiologically excited in a way that overwhelms mental restraint over the body and the massage therapist assumes that s/he is actively seeking sexual gratification, though s/he may of found the experience embarassing and may even feel ashamed. Then sometimes a cigar is a cigar along with all the shades of grey in between. I can also see subjectivity playing a large role in some judgements along with cases that are as plain as the nose on ones face. Given all that I can understand frusteration on the part of massage therapists and embarresment in some situations on the clients behalf. Just wanted to pointout that reality is not generally either black or white though I am sure there are cases where it is.
Gregory

Massillon, OH

#1107 Jun 27, 2011
Joe wrote:
I have never ejaculated during a massage, but have been aroused at times and a couple times have had a full erection. Sometimes I am wet afterwards, but never an ejaculation. I am glad I found this thread as I wondered if it were normal.
I only go to LMT at legitimate businesses. I go after endurance events and get deep tissue so normally I am a little sore and nothing happens. One time a particular LMT had drapped me lightly as she worked on each leg and she kept grazing my draped scrotum as she went by. Not everytime, but probably 6-10 times during the massage. I did get an erection. And when I went onto my stomach, she pressed her body against my hands several times. Her massage of my back and glutes moved me around on the table which was stimulating. Perhaps I should have said something to stop her, but I did almost have an orgazm except that the massage ended before that happened. It is not something I wanted, but I must admit it was very exciting and pleasant. It was actually much more entense then sex or any masturbation. I still don't know if it was intentional, but I did not go back.
I've had many massages since then with no problems, but another time I did get aroused. The LMT may have noticed and moved on and everything comed down. It is strange that it was also very intensly pleasurable even though neither of us did anything wrong. I noticed my heart rate had increased and I had the warmest most pleasant feeling. Again better than any feelings during sex. Strange? As neither of us did anything wrong I continue to see this therapist and have not had similar issues. I do wonder if I should say something if it happens again. I don't want to come accross as a dirty old man so perhaps some comunication would be prudent if it happens again.
Why do you feel you did something 'wrong'. Folks stop being so uptight. Massage/Theraputic Massage is very pleasureable. Stop being imparessed if something pops up. It is very natural; and if a 'happy ending' occurs - enjoy it; but dont expect it.
bemuddled

Ireland

#1109 Jul 3, 2011
I have been to see a few therapists since I started getting massage 3 or 4 year back. My total and complete intent with getting a massage was, and still is for therapeutic support.
Except for my recent mt, I was either draped, with undies, or clothed depending on therapy.
One of my biggest fears was getting aroused during massage, thinking I was or could be seen as a pervert. SO I stayed away, even though I was in serious amounts of pain.
Such was my phobia.
So I faced my fear, and realised that though there was some physiological response it wasn't obvious. Nor sexual.
I recently started seeing another mt.
I've choice being draped or not. So I decided to go for the later, in order to face my fear. I got aroused. Fully. Mortified. Found myself with some pre ejaculate. My mt put me at my ease. Saying it was perfectly normal male response, and not to worry.
Because of my response, I've decided not to go back to him.
I'm not a pervert.
Some of the posters comments here are taken out of context, and the mt's responses though justified, are so angry to cause me doubt of going for a massage from another.
bemuddled

Ireland

#1110 Jul 3, 2011
Jake wrote:
My wife had gotten me a gift certificate for a 90 minute massage by a local male deep tissue therapist. While I was pleasantly shocked by the gift. I found myself apprehensive to go. Although I'm looking forward to the relaxation aspect of the massage I was scared that I would become aroused gain an erection. The certificate is getting close to expiring so my wife forced me to make the appointment, which is next week. Since I've committed to the appointment I have to confess, I can't stop thinking about it, I find myself fantasying about what might happen. I not gay, but felt I could be bi-sexual if the right set of circumstances happened.
go enjoy the massage. Fantasy is ok, but important to leave them at the door. YOu might set yourself up for nothing.
wtf

United States

#1111 Jul 3, 2011
Why don't we see more black women with white guys?

“The Truth Can Hurt:”

Since: Jul 11

Central Florida

#1112 Jul 3, 2011
James wrote:
I recently had a threapeutic massage. The female massage therapist was massageing my back upper thighs and butt. While she was doing this, I had an ejaculation. Is this commom in any way?? I was semi erect at the time but not really aroused in any way?? Is the back upper thigh an area that can cause this??? Can any one help me out on this?? I am a bit embarrased!
NO NEED to be embarrassed ... I've been a massage therapist for over 30 years ... seen many males ejaculate or just leak during a massage , especially around the upper thighs , hamstrings, and abdominal areas .. Had one client who would ejaculate when his calves were massaged ..LOL .. no big deal ...
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#1113 Jul 4, 2011
wtf wrote:
Why don't we see more black women with white guys?
Kid, you need some SERIOUS adult supervision!
wthl

Arlington, TX

#1114 Jul 4, 2011
LMT wrote:
<quoted text>Kid, you need some SERIOUS adult supervision!
I know that's right! You game?
Resonsible Respect

Westbank, Canada

#1115 Jul 4, 2011
bemuddled wrote:
I have been to see a few therapists since I started getting massage 3 or 4 year back. My total and complete intent with getting a massage was, and still is for therapeutic support.
Except for my recent mt, I was either draped, with undies, or clothed depending on therapy.
One of my biggest fears was getting aroused during massage, thinking I was or could be seen as a pervert. SO I stayed away, even though I was in serious amounts of pain.
Such was my phobia.
So I faced my fear, and realised that though there was some physiological response it wasn't obvious. Nor sexual.
I recently started seeing another mt.
I've choice being draped or not. So I decided to go for the later, in order to face my fear. I got aroused. Fully. Mortified. Found myself with some pre ejaculate. My mt put me at my ease. Saying it was perfectly normal male response, and not to worry.
Because of my response, I've decided not to go back to him.
I'm not a pervert.
Some of the posters comments here are taken out of context, and the mt's responses though justified, are so angry to cause me doubt of going for a massage from another.
If you are in pain and massage helps you should go. If you are assertive and respectful their will not be a problem. If you find yourself feeling uncomfortable about a physiological response say something. It is your responsibility to take control of your physical and mental well being. If something makes you feel uncomfortable ask the MT to stop or concentrate on another area. As long as you accept you are in control of how you feel the responsibility to deal with those feelings and the solutions will also belong to you. The MT's on this board likely do not need to express the same attitudes in their offices as the expressions displayed on this board. On this board some MT's likely feel their profession is being denigrated and therefore become defensive. This would not be the case within their office environment where they have a great deal of control over the clientele they interact with so I would not worry about the attitudes expressed here being common in a professional MT's office.
bemuddled

Ireland

#1116 Jul 4, 2011
Resonsible Respect wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are in pain and massage helps you should go. If you are assertive and respectful their will not be a problem. If you find yourself feeling uncomfortable about a physiological response say something. It is your responsibility to take control of your physical and mental well being. If something makes you feel uncomfortable ask the MT to stop or concentrate on another area. As long as you accept you are in control of how you feel the responsibility to deal with those feelings and the solutions will also belong to you. The MT's on this board likely do not need to express the same attitudes in their offices as the expressions displayed on this board. On this board some MT's likely feel their profession is being denigrated and therefore become defensive. This would not be the case within their office environment where they have a great deal of control over the clientele they interact with so I would not worry about the attitudes expressed here being common in a professional MT's office.
thank you For your insight. My body may act as it will whether I intend it or no. As long as I respect the mt, and myself. There should be no issue. I've learned an awful lot from this forum. I feel more at ease within myself.
Thank you.
bemuddled

Ireland

#1117 Jul 6, 2011
Resonsible Respect wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are in pain and massage helps you should go. If you are assertive and respectful their will not be a problem. If you find yourself feeling uncomfortable about a physiological response say something. It is your responsibility to take control of your physical and mental well being. If something makes you feel uncomfortable ask the MT to stop or concentrate on another area. As long as you accept you are in control of how you feel the responsibility to deal with those feelings and the solutions will also belong to you. The MT's on this board likely do not need to express the same attitudes in their offices as the expressions displayed on this board. On this board some MT's likely feel their profession is being denigrated and therefore become defensive. This would not be the case within their office environment where they have a great deal of control over the clientele they interact with so I would not worry about the attitudes expressed here being common in a professional MT's office.
rr if you were an mt I'd feel safe going to see you as my therapist, Just going from your post. You've got integrity.
bemuddled

Ireland

#1118 Jul 7, 2011
the last massage I had with My current mt was with drapeing. I virtually had no erection or leaking, it was very relaxing. I'm well pleased.

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