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#43 Feb 15, 2011
Paul, why wouldn't I massage the scalp? Don't understand your reasoning on that one.

The scalp has the Occipitofrontalis muscle (which includes the Galea aponeurotica), and the temporalis muscle. There are numeral muscle attachments to the skull as well.

You are right, it is heavenly to get a good scalp massage.
Paul

Birmingham, AL

#44 Feb 16, 2011
bellfly wrote:
Paul, why wouldn't I massage the scalp? Don't understand your reasoning on that one.
The scalp has the Occipitofrontalis muscle (which includes the Galea aponeurotica), and the temporalis muscle. There are numeral muscle attachments to the skull as well.
You are right, it is heavenly to get a good scalp massage.
Most medical textbooks I've seen do not consider the galea aponeurotica to be a muscle, nor do they consider it part of the Occipitofrontalis. It's generally classified as separate, tissue covering the top surface of the skull, not a muscle.

That's why I wondered about your comment that you only massage muscles.
FredDY

San Diego, CA

#45 Feb 16, 2011
How can you tell if the touching is an accident or not? Do you count how many times or how long the touch was?
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#46 Feb 16, 2011
Paul wrote:
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Most medical textbooks I've seen do not consider the galea aponeurotica to be a muscle, nor do they consider it part of the Occipitofrontalis. It's generally classified as separate, tissue covering the top surface of the skull, not a muscle.
That's why I wondered about your comment that you only massage muscles.
Even though it is not tecnically a muscle, the fibrous Galea Aponeurotica has attachments to both the frontalis and the occipitalis muscles. Massage techniques such as "chucking" work both muscles, and feel darn good!
Hotdude

Palo Alto, CA

#47 Feb 17, 2011
Massage techniques such as "chucking" work both muscles, and feel darn good!

LMT, how about you "chuck" my manhood... it feels darn good!!

Freddy, one or two bumps is accidental, 3 or more is deliberate. I've been bumped, usually accidental, when going up the back of the thighs and they hit your shaft, if pushed down between your legs, or balls. I sm more convinced that the bumping of your shaft when doing your abs from the side is deliberate. They will bump you with a forearm a few times, which of course will get a physical reaction, then your shaft starts to get in the way and they may bump it more directly with their hand. I love it!!!
FREDDy

San Diego, CA

#48 Feb 19, 2011
Hotdude wrote:
Massage techniques such as "chucking" work both muscles, and feel darn good!
LMT, how about you "chuck" my manhood... it feels darn good!!
Freddy, one or two bumps is accidental, 3 or more is deliberate. I've been bumped, usually accidental, when going up the back of the thighs and they hit your shaft, if pushed down between your legs, or balls. I sm more convinced that the bumping of your shaft when doing your abs from the side is deliberate. They will bump you with a forearm a few times, which of course will get a physical reaction, then your shaft starts to get in the way and they may bump it more directly with their hand. I love it!!!


Got it 3 or more and you might get a happy ending? Now I will have to start counting during the massage haha. When I got my massage from that gay dude he did bump my shaft a few times with his forearm. I did not get hard for him so I am sure he was sad that I was straight. I sure he would love my shaft to grow to 7 inches so it would be in his way and bump it more with his hand and produce precum then stroke me until I come.

Going for a 2hr massage with my gf tomorrow. We will get our own rooms since I heard couples massage the women will talk Chinese the whole time. Plus I will request Jessica I saw her once at this place she said next time oil. Sounds like I will get a happy ending should I tell my gf I think not?
tony

Azusa, CA

#49 Mar 19, 2011
suzy wrote:
I had a massage last night and when she was working on my thighs she touched my genitals, two times. This has never happened to me before. I have had many massages. At first it seemed like an accident, but after I thought about it, it seems like she would be more careful. She could lose her license if I made a complaint.
I had a massage done Monday of this week after a tough week of cycling. I went into a legit place I have been before and I noticed this time the female therapist I have had give me a massage before didn't wrap me with a diaper type wrap with the sheets like she has before. She kept the sheet loose fit while I was face up. When she was working on my legs my member was on my right upper thigh. She started with my left leg and I felt comfortable even though the sheets were loose. She then started on my right leg still a loose fitting sheet I hoped my member wasn't petruding out of the sheets. I didn't want to touch my member to see if it was being exposed because if I had I am sure instead of being semi-hard I would have made myself fully hard in an instant. While she working upwards from knee to upper thigh she ran right into my member and being semi-hard already she kept pushing but my member was stoppping her hand from the rest of the upper thigh work. Should I have said something to her even though it didn't bother me? I am absoulutly sure she was aware exactly where my member was as it was a noticable bulge in the sheets.
Hotdude

Hollywood, FL

#50 Mar 21, 2011
loose fitting sheets are the BEST! I think you had the best case scenario for your massage. No problems here
Brett

Moorestown, NJ

#51 Apr 29, 2011
I have chronic digestive/IBS issues and frequently get abdominal massage due to my constipation and other problems. I've had a least four therapists accidently bump my penis, some more than once. I always just ignored it. It would be one thing if they were grabbing it or exposing me, but accidently bumping here and there I just ignore. I have only ever had one therapist touch my testicles and she did it while running her hands up both my legs from feet to quad...and it was just for a second...I would only ever report a therapist if what she did was intentional or just incredibly, incredibly sloppy where I was exposed for quite a period of time. However, just because of the risk of getting bumped I would not want to stop abdominal massage as I need it for health reasons.
flackvest

Carson, CA

#52 Apr 30, 2011
That's why I don't do massages. If I gotta worry about getting aroused in a clinical setting it isn't for me. Just be a man and work through the pain!
Hotdude

Palo Alto, CA

#53 May 2, 2011
flackvest,
just be a man and don't worry about getting a littls aroused. You really avoid situations that may cause arousal??????????
Dr G

Joinville, Brazil

#54 Jun 5, 2011
My MT is also a cosmetologist - it is common here for massage to be offered in beauty salons. Since she also does my pelvic hair removal ("wax job"), she has spent many hours in contact with my genitals over the years. In administering deep tissue/relaxation massage, nude and undraped, she works the adductor and gracilis muscles as well as the ingual ligament as a part of a full-body massage, and frequently "touches" my genitals. However the relationship is totally professional, with no intent to provide gratuitous gratification.

What I find interesting is that so many MTs in the US are horrified with the notion of coming into contact with a perfectly normal part of the anatomy, while a cosmetologist will work at length with the same part of the anatomy without a second thought. Are MTs more inhibited as a class, and cosmetologists more open-minded?

In my opinion true massage professionals should strongly advocate an open-minded, liberal attitude and oppose the moralistic, religion-based predjudices against acceptance of the human body as natural/normal. While I support maintaining a strict professional approach to massage (no "happy endings", at least MT administered ones) the criteria of location and degree of contact with any part of the body should be patient needs and comfort. I find the massages I receive (3 times a week) very satisfying and helpful in maintaining my overall health, particularly since at nearly 70 so many little discomforts begin to reveal themselves in my body.

BTW, I have studied and administer massage myself, and "practice what I preach."
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#55 Jun 6, 2011
Dr G wrote:
What I find interesting is that so many MTs in the US are horrified with the notion of coming into contact with a perfectly normal part of the anatomy, while a cosmetologist will work at length with the same part of the anatomy without a second thought. Are MTs more inhibited as a class, and cosmetologists more open-minded?
In my opinion true massage professionals should strongly advocate an open-minded, liberal attitude and oppose the moralistic, religion-based predjudices against acceptance of the human body as natural/normal.
These are bullsh*t assumptions. As a Navy Hospital Corpsman in the '90s, I inserted my share of urinary catheters with care, precision, and professionalism. I have ZERO inhibitions about touching the genitals, WHEN MEDICALLY APPROPRIATE.
And your claim of "religious-based" reasons for professionalism in the massage room is just... laughable.

Since: Oct 10

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#56 Jun 6, 2011
I was never taught how to perform a "happy ending" in school nor many classes I have taken since graduating.

Not once have I ever accidentally touched any client in any manner, good technique I guess.

However, last week I was massaging a gentleman's arm (long time client) and his hand brushed against my inner arm. He laughed and told me I had the softest skin he had ever touched, and wanted to know if I was upset that he had accidentally coped a feel. Ah, life is so good!
Hotdude

Hollywood, FL

#57 Jun 6, 2011
I'm not laughing...
tedS

Eugene, OR

#58 Mar 7, 2013
I have had literally hundreds of massage therapy sessions, since I am 70 now and have gone weekly for 40 years. My condition is numbness in the right leg and hip, no Doctor has ever helped.(Diabetes test 100% of the time and I am not Diabetic)

Massage helps, or it gets so bad I do not dare drive.

I have had my genitals accidentally bumped maybe a dozen times over the years, since the work I need is in close, I ignore that and so does the therapist, except for a couple that apologized.
It's not a big deal, we are adults.
The term really is "Massage Professional."...
Melanie

San Diego, CA

#59 May 14, 2013
I had a bad experience with a rolfer (body worker) who in our 1st session saw a tattoo on my bottom and commented on it. I was short with him and stated that it was personal (in other words this topic is off topic and continue with your work). The 2nd time I went back I wore underwear with better coverage. This time he acted like he was seeing it for the 1st times and said Ooooh nice tattoo, as he lifted up my underwear to look at my tattoo on my buttock. I stated in a very short and annoyed voice, "You saw it last time". He moved on and continued manipulating my joints and muscles. As I lay on my stomach he walked by my feet (which were hanging off the table) and rubbed them with some part of his body. I do not know if this was innocent or if he was getting his jollies off, but at this point I was paranoid. He finished working on me with no more incidents. So after thinking about this for some days and kicking myself for not saying more immediately, I called him to tell him I did not trust him anymore and felt violated for what he did and wanted my money back. To get results from rolfing one is recommended to go through a series of sessions-about 10. I felt like I had not only been violated, but wasted my time and money on the 2 sessions without any benefit. It was a loss of my investment. Anyway, he agreed to send me a check although I kept asking for a credit card refund. He wanted my address and kept insisting on it...NO WAY! So, I gave him my work address.
What do you guys think?

Since: Feb 13

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#60 May 15, 2013
My feeling is he sensed your level of discomfort and was trying to help you relax by mentioning your tattoo as a point of interest, thinking it may stimulate you to open up and talk a bit. Maybe ladies are tense during the first sessions of massage, and sometimes conversation can help promote relaxation. I think its benign. As for touching your foot, it happens. Deal with it and try to enjoy your experience, no harm was done. Best regards.
Melanie wrote:
I had a bad experience with a rolfer (body worker) who in our 1st session saw a tattoo on my bottom and commented on it. I was short with him and stated that it was personal (in other words this topic is off topic and continue with your work). The 2nd time I went back I wore underwear with better coverage. This time he acted like he was seeing it for the 1st times and said Ooooh nice tattoo, as he lifted up my underwear to look at my tattoo on my buttock. I stated in a very short and annoyed voice, "You saw it last time". He moved on and continued manipulating my joints and muscles. As I lay on my stomach he walked by my feet (which were hanging off the table) and rubbed them with some part of his body. I do not know if this was innocent or if he was getting his jollies off, but at this point I was paranoid. He finished working on me with no more incidents. So after thinking about this for some days and kicking myself for not saying more immediately, I called him to tell him I did not trust him anymore and felt violated for what he did and wanted my money back. To get results from rolfing one is recommended to go through a series of sessions-about 10. I felt like I had not only been violated, but wasted my time and money on the 2 sessions without any benefit. It was a loss of my investment. Anyway, he agreed to send me a check although I kept asking for a credit card refund. He wanted my address and kept insisting on it...NO WAY! So, I gave him my work address.
What do you guys think?

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