Masturbation after massage
LMT

Macedonia, OH

#24 Feb 7, 2010
Jethro wrote:
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When I get so aroused & erect, I usaullly have the need to masturbate to relieve extra stress. When the massage is complete, but I need to relieve extra stress in the room, will the massage therapist get mad at me if she saw me masturbating in front of her after the massage was complete?
If you "have the need to masturbate," there is a HUGE problem with your self-control. But since the massage industry attracts the unprofessional types as well as the professionals, you probably won't have trouble finding an unethical "masseuse" to take care of it for you. Look on Craigs List.
balance

Charlotte, NC

#25 Feb 7, 2010
I agree Brooke...a professional therapist would never let that happen. I have been doing this 11 years and I have only had this happen one time with a man who had never had any kind of massage before. After the first time, he never did it again in subsequent sessions. My male clients have always told me that they are so relaxed, that sex is one of the last things on their mind.
Truth

Culver City, CA

#26 Feb 8, 2010
They may TELL you that sex is the last thing on their mind (not the first example of men telling a woman what she wants to hear), but they're lying. When you're naked on a table, under a sheet or not, and a woman has just spent an hour touching every inch of your body except your penis, sex is NOT the last thing on your mind. It may not be the FIRST thing on your mind, but it's there, I promise. And if you seriously think only one man has ever masturbated after you left the room, I think you're being naive. You can't leave a naked man alone in a room with towels and massage oil and not expect that some of them will put those supplies to use.
Bunbun

Los Angeles, CA

#27 Feb 9, 2010
Obviously a therapist can't control what you do in the room, in the few minutes you have by yourself after the massage. But if you're in a professional establishment and you try to pull that (no pun intended)while we're in your presence, you'll immediately get the boot.

Try going to Burke and explaining the naivety behind their client expectations and the way they run their business.

There are tons of seedy places in operation. And if you like the idea of masturbating on the same table that 100 dudes before you have, then go for it. But it's totally unfair to assume that every place that offers massage expects to put up with inappropriate requests and funky towels at the end of the day...
Truth

Moscow, OH

#28 Feb 9, 2010
I do feel bad for LMTs who don't want to get masturbation requests and get them anyway; I can see why that's frustrating.(Like being a portrait painter and having every third guy who comes to hire you say, "Oh, and can you also give my bathroom walls a fresh coat while you're at it?") I don't feel too bad about the "Same table as 100 guys before you" argument - if that sort of thing bothered me, I wouldn't go for a massage in the first place.(There are fresh sheets and towels each time; and if there weren't, I'd be just as uncomfortable about the prospect of lying on other guys' sweat, or some of their saliva that may be on the face cradle, as I would be about maybe having a cumstain on the towel.)

But one thing I'd definitely say is that massage places should expect that some of their male patrons will masturbate when the door's closed and they're by themselves. It may not be pleasant for you to imagine, but it WILL happen, so you need to expect it.(Unless you tell your male clients, "Take your time, get up when you're ready; if you feel the need to masturbate, that's fine, but please wait till you get to the shower.")
LMT

Macedonia, OH

#29 Feb 9, 2010
Truth wrote:
I do feel bad for LMTs who don't want to get masturbation requests and get them anyway; I can see why that's frustrating.(Like being a portrait painter and having every third guy who comes to hire you say, "Oh, and can you also give my bathroom walls a fresh coat while you're at it?") I don't feel too bad about the "Same table as 100 guys before you" argument - if that sort of thing bothered me, I wouldn't go for a massage in the first place.(There are fresh sheets and towels each time; and if there weren't, I'd be just as uncomfortable about the prospect of lying on other guys' sweat, or some of their saliva that may be on the face cradle, as I would be about maybe having a cumstain on the towel.)
But one thing I'd definitely say is that massage places should expect that some of their male patrons will masturbate when the door's closed and they're by themselves. It may not be pleasant for you to imagine, but it WILL happen, so you need to expect it.(Unless you tell your male clients, "Take your time, get up when you're ready; if you feel the need to masturbate, that's fine, but please wait till you get to the shower.")
No. It won't happen on my table, BECAUSE I SCREEN MY CLIENTS and I won't tolerate creeps. My clients are by referral only, from physicians and current clients. So your attempt to classify LMTs with the masturbation-friendly masseuses won't work.

“Live Laugh Love”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#30 Feb 10, 2010
Truth wrote:
I do feel bad for LMTs who don't want to get masturbation requests and get them anyway; I can see why that's frustrating.(Like being a portrait painter and having every third guy who comes to hire you say, "Oh, and can you also give my bathroom walls a fresh coat while you're at it?") I don't feel too bad about the "Same table as 100 guys before you" argument - if that sort of thing bothered me, I wouldn't go for a massage in the first place.(There are fresh sheets and towels each time; and if there weren't, I'd be just as uncomfortable about the prospect of lying on other guys' sweat, or some of their saliva that may be on the face cradle, as I would be about maybe having a cumstain on the towel.)
But one thing I'd definitely say is that massage places should expect that some of their male patrons will masturbate when the door's closed and they're by themselves. It may not be pleasant for you to imagine, but it WILL happen, so you need to expect it.(Unless you tell your male clients, "Take your time, get up when you're ready; if you feel the need to masturbate, that's fine, but please wait till you get to the shower.")
Thanks for understanding our dilima, wish more people understood where we are coming from.

However, if a man masturbates in our massage room, the smell is so strong that we KNOW what has happened. I had this happen only twice in all my years as an LMT, so I don't agree that it is a common occurence. I would like to add that handling anything with bodily fluids is not something MTs enjoy or want. There is no hiding the smell of semen, it permeates a room completely.

I choose to believe that most men are able to control themselves and understand the massage as a healing experience instead of a sexual one.
Truth

United States

#31 Feb 10, 2010
I am not attempting to classify anyone with anyone. I am simply stating that men like to masturbate, especially when they're already naked, have had a woman touching them for an hour, and are left alone in a room with towels and massage oil. That's like showing a kid commercials for sugary cereal and then leaving him alone in a room with a bowl, a spoon, and a box of Froot Loops. As for pre-screening clients, it's great that you do this...but a) many LMTs do not, and b) I think you're overestimating your ability to weed out "creeps." I guarantee I would pass any screening process: I'm very respectable, lead a very normal life, am well educated, thought highly of in my community, etc. I am the guy everyone likes, the nicest, gentlest guy in any room, never rowdy, not a drinker, don't leer or pinch women or tell dirty jokes. I just happen also to enjoy masturbating after a massage, to complete the feeling of release and relief and relaxation. Honest, it's not just "creepy" guys who do.
LMT

Macedonia, OH

#32 Feb 10, 2010
Truth wrote:
I am not attempting to classify anyone with anyone. I am simply stating that men like to masturbate, especially when they're already naked, have had a woman touching them for an hour, and are left alone in a room with towels and massage oil. That's like showing a kid commercials for sugary cereal and then leaving him alone in a room with a bowl, a spoon, and a box of Froot Loops. As for pre-screening clients, it's great that you do this...but a) many LMTs do not, and b) I think you're overestimating your ability to weed out "creeps." I guarantee I would pass any screening process: I'm very respectable, lead a very normal life, am well educated, thought highly of in my community, etc. I am the guy everyone likes, the nicest, gentlest guy in any room, never rowdy, not a drinker, don't leer or pinch women or tell dirty jokes. I just happen also to enjoy masturbating after a massage, to complete the feeling of release and relief and relaxation. Honest, it's not just "creepy" guys who do.
Amazing that you think that "men" can't control themselves until they get home.
Many female LMTs that I know now ask to photocopy a new client's driver's license, as they do in all of the doctors' offices. If a client then masturbates in the room or exposes himself to the therapist, they can be found, arrested and charged with a sex crime, and have to register as a sex offender for the rest of their lives. So is it worth it to you for that feeling of "relaxation?"
Paul

Birmingham, AL

#33 Feb 10, 2010
LMT wrote:
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Amazing that you think that "men" can't control themselves until they get home.
Many female LMTs that I know now ask to photocopy a new client's driver's license, as they do in all of the doctors' offices. If a client then masturbates in the room or exposes himself to the therapist, they can be found, arrested and charged with a sex crime, and have to register as a sex offender for the rest of their lives. So is it worth it to you for that feeling of "relaxation?"
As usual, LMT, you throw out baseless facts. "All of the doctors' offices photocopy your driver's license?"

No doctor I have ever seen has asked to photocopy my driver's license. Insurance card, yes. Driver's license, no.

Exposing oneself to a therapist could certainly be classified as a sex crime. However, I don't believe for a second that ANY jury would convict a man for masturbating in a room by himself. Inappropriate, maybe. Illegal? No way.

And not to get too gross here with the discussion of bodily fluids. But I will point out that some men have strong-smelling semen, others don't. Semen can be practically odorless, based on hygiene and diet.

So all of you who are so certain that this has never happened in one of your massage rooms, you can't possibly know for sure.

Referrals from physicians and current clients mean nothing either. No one I know would look at me and suspect that I have masturbated in a massage room, or that I have received "happy ending" massages. Plenty of "normal" guys do, because it's a relatively "normal" thing to do.

Scream and yell and flame away. But not wanting to believe it doesn't make it any less true.

“Live Laugh Love”

Since: Oct 07

Location hidden

#34 Feb 10, 2010
There is no such thing as "odorless" semen. Some people are more sensitive to smells than others, but it always leaves an odor. Many people can also "smell" when a person has been in a room just by the natural scent the human body leaves behind. I won't even get into the whole energy thing here.

If there is no smell, as you insist can happen, there is also the tell-tale wet spot on a towel, sheet, or whereever. So yes, we can know for certain if someone has masturbated in our room. This is true of females also, there is a certain "scent" that is left after a woman climaxes too.

Not trying to flame away here, just refuting your "facts".
CCLMT

Corpus Christi, TX

#35 Feb 10, 2010
I wish I would have thought of that line for Dr. LMT "Scream and yell and flame away". I like that!!

Since: May 08

Miami, FL

#36 Feb 10, 2010
a wet spot on the sheet hardly means the client masturbated! I've left lots of wet spots and did nothing to myself after the massage. It was just some fluid during the massage, which is perfectly normal and not creepy.
If a guy does decide to masturbate before leaving, using a few tissues and throwing them in the trash should be expected of them. I cannot image the smell to be overpowering after they leave the room. there is already the smell of those in the room plus the lotions and oils used, as well as candles in some cases. Relax and don't blow this out of proportion... sex offender, please!
LMT

Macedonia, OH

#37 Feb 10, 2010
Paul wrote:
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As usual, LMT, you throw out baseless facts. "All of the doctors' offices photocopy your driver's license?"
No doctor I have ever seen has asked to photocopy my driver's license. Insurance card, yes. Driver's license, no.
Exposing oneself to a therapist could certainly be classified as a sex crime. However, I don't believe for a second that ANY jury would convict a man for masturbating in a room by himself. Inappropriate, maybe. Illegal? No way.
And not to get too gross here with the discussion of bodily fluids. But I will point out that some men have strong-smelling semen, others don't. Semen can be practically odorless, based on hygiene and diet.
So all of you who are so certain that this has never happened in one of your massage rooms, you can't possibly know for sure.
Referrals from physicians and current clients mean nothing either. No one I know would look at me and suspect that I have masturbated in a massage room, or that I have received "happy ending" massages. Plenty of "normal" guys do, because it's a relatively "normal" thing to do.
Scream and yell and flame away. But not wanting to believe it doesn't make it any less true.
Doctor's offices photocopy drivers' licenses. And emergency rooms, urgent care clinics, etc. Because insurance cards don't guarantee payment. Proper identification does. I managed an 8-provider, 3-location Internal Medicine practice for University Hospitals in Cleveland. And your experience in medical office management is...? Also, I remember not too long ago that a university professor was charged and arrested for going into a female colleague's office and masturbating on her desk. Disgusting. He was arrested, even though he masturbated "in private." And you can bet that if you do it in my or any of my friends' practices, they WILL call the police on you and you WILL be arrested. This isn't South Texas here, CCLMT.
CCLMT

Corpus Christi, TX

#38 Feb 10, 2010
And did you manage that practice for a WHOLE year like you did so many other things? Again, you have no idea my education level or certifications but I can say that I last more than a WHOLE year(insert brag), which seems to be your threshold. I also don't have a need to respond to your questions of experience or education that you seem to love asking people.

Those that can DO while those that can't BRAG

I'll be waiting to read your intelligent(?) reply.
Lucky Customer

Thailand

#39 Feb 11, 2010
I have gone to massage therapists for years and always ask for masturbation by the masseuse. If they say no, often which happens in the "spa" places, I do it myself. Usually they don't say anything and let me do it, replacing the towel if it falls off. Out of the hundreds of massages I have had, one masseuse left the room politely and one left and appeared to be upset. All the rest seemed to think nothing of it. One lady even let me perform oral sex on her (through her pants) and in later sessions initiated that as I masturbated. In one session I pulled her pants down and did it.

By the way, I always tip well, though that is never discussed before, during or after the session. But after the first session, they know I will tip well.

The only time I have not pursued masturbation was when I was required to sign a form that said there would be no sexual activity. Then I simply got a massage and never went back.

I have a feeling masturbation goes on a lot more than some LMT's are willing to admit.

I find it hard to believe that any customer would be arrested for masturbating during the massage. HOWEVER, I just did a google search and found that that has indeed happened!
Lucky Customer

Thailand

#40 Feb 11, 2010
Oh, by the way, in my post above, I'm referring to activity in the United States. Things are different and a lot better here in Bangkok!
LMT

Macedonia, OH

#41 Feb 11, 2010
Well, you all just proved my point. The creeps and "masseuses" are against the photocopied ID, because the creeps don't want to be found if they do something inappropriate in the massage room, and the "masseuses" don't want to lose the creeps' business. The creeps won't come back to a "no masturbation" massage therapist. But the non-creeps who are looking for therapeutic massage are OK with it, because they know they won't be pushing the boundary. So it's a very effective screening tool.

And for CCLMT: I managed for UH for 4 years while I finished my Master's thesis in education, then once I had my M.Ed. I took a position in Medical Education at a major teaching hospital in Akron. Those who can, move up the career ladder. Those who can't stagnate.
Lucky Customer

Thailand

#42 Feb 11, 2010
I'm not a creep at all. Just a well educated guy who has a nice hobby. It's a lot more fun than golf, but just as expensive.

You, LMT, are in denial about your profession. A happy ending should come with the massage and if not, the masseuse should simply look the other way. I think most LMT's are in one of those two catagories.
LMT

Macedonia, OH

#43 Feb 11, 2010
Lucky Customer wrote:
I'm not a creep at all. Just a well educated guy who has a nice hobby. It's a lot more fun than golf, but just as expensive.
You, LMT, are in denial about your profession. A happy ending should come with the massage and if not, the masseuse should simply look the other way. I think most LMT's are in one of those two catagories.
You live in Bangkok, where the sex slave is booming. Had any 12-year-olds lately?
Honestly, it is YOU GUYS who are in denial about the difference between Massage Therapy and what you're looking for. The gals who have to provide the happy endings have made themselves "the girlfriend of last resort" for the guys who just can't get lucky in the pickup bars.

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