Caring for the zoo's senior citizens

Caring for the zoo's senior citizens

There are 16 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Mar 16, 2008, titled Caring for the zoo's senior citizens. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Veterinarian Kathryn Gamble sat next to a table in Lincoln Park Zoo Hospital the other day polishing the big, sharp teeth of an anesthetized black leopard with bubble gum-flavored toothpaste.

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Slickster

Miami, FL

#3 Mar 17, 2008
A great commentary on how zoos treat animals and how much we learn about them through such treatment. Our body of knowledge about wild things continues to grow, through the need to treat illnesses or other conditions occuring in captive specimens that might cause death in the wild.

Kudos to the dedicated administrators, keepers and veterinarians that have dedicated their lives to making the lives of their charges longer and more rewarding and as an additional benefit, have helped us to understand the world around us even better.

Since: Jan 08

Chicago

#4 Mar 17, 2008
I love visiting Cookie at the BZ. He's old but he's still very energetic despite the arthritis. The article says he's 75 years old, but it's actually unknown exactly how old he is. He's been around since the zoo was opened and at that time he was already an adult. He could be as old as 80.
Cheap-shot

Schiller Park, IL

#5 Mar 17, 2008
One of my house cats had such a bad cold she could not smell the food and would not eat. After losing 5 pounds I took her to the vet and they simply
rubbed food in her mouth and she began to eat. The vet said "If cats can't smell the food they will not eat, so giving them a taste of the food is a way to get them to eat." Amazing how close the small house cats are to their bigger cousins.
a neighbor

Milwaukee, WI

#6 Mar 17, 2008
As long as the animal isn't in pain, they should prolong their life. BUT, as soon as life is bad, they should allow it to die.

Maybe it is time for Marta to die. What are we saving her for?
Dewey Cox

Oak Lawn, IL

#8 Mar 17, 2008
Logical wrote:
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Marta still appears to be enjoying quality of life and that is what matters. She is a grand old lady and still beautiful in her old age.
Quit anthropomorphisizing these magnificent an"imals. They are not human beings. Bubble-gum flavored toothpaste."? The zoo and their staff are in this for the money.

Try telling Marta how beautiful she is when she has to eat goop for food. Nature has its own reasons for the lifespan of all creatures, great and small. And none of those reasons are for profit.

Since: Jan 08

Chicago

#9 Mar 17, 2008
Dewey Cox wrote:
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Quit anthropomorphisizing these magnificent an"imals. They are not human beings. Bubble-gum flavored toothpaste."? The zoo and their staff are in this for the money.
Try telling Marta how beautiful she is when she has to eat goop for food. Nature has its own reasons for the lifespan of all creatures, great and small. And none of those reasons are for profit.
It's a free zoo. How are they making a profit off of this? If these zoo personnel were in it for the money, they wouldn't be working for a non-profit organization. They would be working corporate jobs.
Slickster

Miami, FL

#10 Mar 17, 2008
Dewey Cox wrote:
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Quit anthropomorphisizing these magnificent an"imals. They are not human beings. Bubble-gum flavored toothpaste."? The zoo and their staff are in this for the money.
Try telling Marta how beautiful she is when she has to eat goop for food. Nature has its own reasons for the lifespan of all creatures, great and small. And none of those reasons are for profit.
I'm sorry, but I seem to be missing your points; all of them.

No one that has written here has anthropomorphized anything; they speak of them and treat them as wild creatures. The bubblegum flavor was to eliminate the chance of introducing elements to which Marta has proven allergic. Read the copy.

Americans lived to be 47 years old in 1900, a figure we have upped by 30 + years since then, strictly by learning how to treat ourselves, medically and in lifestyle. What we do for these animals is give them similar opportunities for life, a modest payment for the knowledge they have allowed us to gain.

I, for one, do not intend to return to that sub 50 year lifespan, just to adhere to your theory. If you wish, you can be the first to go back.
Susan in Buffalo Grove

Arlington, VA

#11 Mar 17, 2008
a neighbor wrote:
As long as the animal isn't in pain, they should prolong their life. BUT, as soon as life is bad, they should allow it to die.
Maybe it is time for Marta to die. What are we saving her for?
How's your grandmother, Neighbor? Is he quality of life bad? Should she be put down? Maybe it is time for Grandma to die. What are we saving her for?

What an insensitive question !!!
Susan in Buffalo Grove

Arlington, VA

#12 Mar 17, 2008
Sorry for spelling error:

Is HER quality of life bad?
Paul Montgomery

Chicago, IL

#13 Mar 17, 2008
Let that poor animal die, or put it down.
The Bubba

Mountain Lakes, NJ

#14 Mar 17, 2008
Dewey Cox wrote:
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Quit anthropomorphisizing these magnificent an"imals. They are not human beings. Bubble-gum flavored toothpaste."? The zoo and their staff are in this for the money.
Try telling Marta how beautiful she is when she has to eat goop for food. Nature has its own reasons for the lifespan of all creatures, great and small. And none of those reasons are for profit.
So, how soon before we can put you out of your misery?
Cheap-shot

Hobart, IN

#15 Mar 17, 2008
Dewey Cox wrote:
<quoted text>
Quit anthropomorphisizing these magnificent an"imals. They are not human beings. Bubble-gum flavored toothpaste."? The zoo and their staff are in this for the money.
Try telling Marta how beautiful she is when she has to eat goop for food. Nature has its own reasons for the lifespan of all creatures, great and small. And none of those reasons are for profit.
The problem with these blogs is there is always some yahoo like "Dewey Cox"
thats posts something stoopid.
PMG

United States

#16 Mar 17, 2008
Whoa wait, hold the phone. Brookfield Zoo is trying to SAVE animals now? Did they change a mantra?
Dewey Cox

Oak Lawn, IL

#17 Mar 17, 2008
daeviant wrote:
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It's a free zoo. How are they making a profit off of this? If these zoo personnel were in it for the money, they wouldn't be working for a non-profit organization. They would be working corporate jobs.
Well, since I've never heard of a corporate veterinarian, I'm lost there. But please, do you really think the vet in the video clip did that for free? And while admission to the zoo is free, do you really think it doesn't receive funding?
Dewey Cox

Oak Lawn, IL

#18 Mar 17, 2008
One last question (or two,) and then you all can carry on:

Do you really think nature intended for God's creatures to be anesthitized, then have their teeth polished with bubble gum flavored toothpaste? Or be kept in a cage?

Since: Jan 08

Chicago

#19 Mar 18, 2008
Dewey Cox wrote:
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Well, since I've never heard of a corporate veterinarian, I'm lost there. But please, do you really think the vet in the video clip did that for free? And while admission to the zoo is free, do you really think it doesn't receive funding?
My point is donations and funding isn't a lot of money once it trickles down to paid personnel. If it was, you would see more people working for non profits. The zoos don't even make enough money to pay an entire staff, that's why a huge number of the staff are unpaid volunteers. I make more money than a lot of zoo administrators who sit higher up on their organizational structure relative to where I am, and that's not saying much.

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