What Arctic foxes know about global warming

Sep 23, 2012 Full story: Tehran Times 27

This week probably saw the Arctic Ocean's sea ice reach its minimum extent for the year and begin to expand again, as it usually does in mid-September. Given that the retreat of Arctic ice has become a key piece of evidence for those who take a more alarmed view of global warming, it's newsworthy that 2012's melt was the greatest since records ... (more)

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litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#1 Sep 23, 2012
TOXIC AGW denier topix shows another twisted article by Wall Street. Of course, Wall Street leaves out the science so it can satisfy other toxic AGW deniers..... like toxic topix.
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There's also the puzzling fact that Antarctic sea ice shows no sign of summer retreat, and the current winter's peak extent is well above average.
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As stated, Wall Street leaves out the science, which predicted Antarctic sea ice increase due to AGW in 2002, confirmed in 2005, & idiot Wall Street & other deniers confirm here & other places.

Yeah, Wall Street leaves out the science when they think fluff is needed to explain away many AGW denier effects.
Fun Facts

Fort Worth, TX

#3 Sep 23, 2012
This pretty much follows what we know, the largest extent of glaciation in the northern hemisphere since the Younger Dryas 10,500 years ago, occurred during the LIA.
Fun Facts

Fort Worth, TX

#4 Sep 23, 2012
litesong wrote:
TOXIC AGW denier topix shows another twisted article by Wall Street. Of course, Wall Street leaves out the science so it can satisfy other toxic AGW deniers..... like toxic topix.
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From the article:
There's also the puzzling fact that Antarctic sea ice shows no sign of summer retreat, and the current winter's peak extent is well above average.
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As stated, Wall Street leaves out the science, which predicted Antarctic sea ice increase due to AGW in 2002, confirmed in 2005, & idiot Wall Street & other deniers confirm here & other places.
Yeah, Wall Street leaves out the science when they think fluff is needed to explain away many AGW denier effects.
It was easy to predict the see saw effect between the two poles, they just had to look at history.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#5 Sep 23, 2012
fun farts wrote:
It was easy to predict the see saw effect between the two poles, they just had to look at history.
AGW science predicted Antarctic sea ice increases in 2002, confirmed in 2005 & often toxic topix AGW deniers historically twist science, long after AGW science came true.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/...
toxic topix AGW denier ideas were history because they never were science.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#6 Sep 23, 2012
the artificial dud diver wrote:
back in the tepee, Hiawatha.
"the artificial dud diver" gets collected in the slimy steenking filthy vile reprobate rooting(& rotting) racist pukey proud pig brian_g stumble butt dumpster diver toxic topix AGW denier ganghood.
Fun Facts

United States

#7 Sep 23, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
AGW science predicted Antarctic sea ice increases in 2002, confirmed in 2005 & often toxic topix AGW deniers historically twist science, long after AGW science came true.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/...
toxic topix AGW denier ideas were history because they never wiere science.
The seesaw effect of the poles has been known for a while. But its nice to know the agws accept that science
litesong

Stanwood, WA

#8 Sep 23, 2012
fun farts wrote:
The seesaw effect of the poles has been known for a while. But its nice to know the agws accept that science
AGW science goes beyond kindergarten seesaws, as science goes beyond the levels that toxic topix AGW deniers never understood in the jr. hi skul science classes.
PHD

Houston, TX

#10 Sep 24, 2012
the real DUD FIVERS wrote:
<quoted text>so how did AGW cause the previous warm periods? too namy smoke signals? heap big peace pipes?
No, hot air and useless babble from the dirtling.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#11 Oct 10, 2012
litesong wrote:
A stunning performance(a non-performance) showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on, in great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & against landforms.
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all Arctic waters refuse to ice. Except for the sea ices north of Greenland & Canadian islands, the Arctic ice pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth, variably tilted towards the sun.
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is a bit greater than the lowest minimum of 2 years recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,574,688 km2 (October 8, 2012). A size area represented by only Indiana became sea ice the past day, despite the sun, unseen, from the North Pole for well over 2 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 15 degC, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -17degC. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the next lowest two years' minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,662,344 km2 (October 9, 2012), the past day's sea ice area gain less than Maine size. Present extent is dated almost a month later, than the date of the 3rd place year's mark. Temperatures above the 80th parallel have slipped to (-15.5 degC), a bit less than normal. Temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are most often freezing, some areas below minus double digits, & one temperature as low as -23degC.
Much of that sea ice increase is along the Greenland east coast, altho Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard, again in the semi-circular pattern mentioned above.

A detail noted is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?

Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northeast passage, & waters north of mentioned islands remain ice free. Bulging southward sea ice at the west end of the Northwest Passage should continue, & will close off the Northwest Passage. Internal icing is also occurring inside the Northwest Passage from nearby double digit minus temperatures opposing the months of solar warmth built up in the Passage.
Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, for three months have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#12 Oct 12, 2012
litesong wrote:
A stunning performance showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on, in great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & against landforms.
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic unchanging face, almost all Arctic waters refuse to ice. Except for the sea ices north of Greenland & Canadian islands, the Arctic ice pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth, variably tilted towards the sun.
Details below:
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is a bit greater than the lowest minimum of 2 years recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,752,656 km2 (October 10, 2012). A size area represented by less than Maine became sea ice the past day, despite the sun, unseen, from the North Pole for well over 2 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel averaging minus 12 degC, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean dropping as low as -20degC. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the next lowest three years' minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,868,438 km2 (October 11, 2012), the past day's sea ice area gain increasing to Ohio size. Present extent is dated a month later, than the date of the 4th place year's mark. Temperatures above the 80th parallel have yo-yoed to minus 14 degC , a bit more than normal. Temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are most often freezing, numerous areas below minus double digits, but the lowest one temperature is NOT cold at -14degC.

Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard, & sea ice is strongly developing around the islands, again in the semi-circular pattern mentioned above.

A detail noted 2 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it? Yesterday, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions.

Today, the number of ice floes increased to 8, of various pixel sizes & FORM AN ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!

Sea ices build around all northern islands & sea ices now connect Severnaya Zemlya Islands to the mainland. Bulging southward sea ices at the west end of the Northwest Passage are closing off the Passage & internal Passage icing strongly builds.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, for three months have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#13 Oct 13, 2012
litesong wrote:
A stunning performance showing Arctic sea ice NOT piling on, in great amounts of sea ice on the Arctic Ocean, surrounding seas & against landforms.
Called a secondary feedback in AGW, solar energy absorption by historically unrecorded amounts of clear Arctic waters is putting on an incredible show in a non-performing role, well worthy of an Academy Award. With a stoic, almost unchanging face, only 5 million km2 of Arctic waters have sea ice. Except for the sea ices north of Greenland & Canadian islands, the Arctic Ice Pack shows a strong resemblance to a semi-circle, strengthening the assumption that Arctic Ocean waters & seas have very strongly absorbed solar energies the last 3 months, due to the rotating Earth, variably tilted towards the sun.
Details below:
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litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is a bit greater than the lowest minimum of 3 years recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 4,868,438 km2 (October 11, 2012), the past day's sea ice area gain increasing to Ohio size. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for ~3 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel fluctuating down to minus 14 degC, & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -14 degC. Much warmth built up in Arctic waters these past months is resisting its conversion back to sea ice, especially southern Arctic waters which have seen much more solar energy absorbed than northern Arctic clear waters.
This same Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the next lowest three years' minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 4,997,500 km2 (October 12, 2012), the rate of sea icing, increasing to Mississippi sized per day. Present extent is dated a month plus later, than the date of the 4th place year's mark. Temperatures above the 80th parallel have yo-yoed down to minus 15.5 degC, normal for the time of year. Many temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are below minus double digits.

Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard. Sea ice is strongly developing around the islands(connecting one set of Russian islands to the mainland).

A detail noted 3 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?

Two days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Yesterday, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they form an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!

Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northeast passage, & waters north of mentioned islands remain ice free. Bulging southward sea ice at the west end of the Northwest Passage is across the Northwest Passage. Internal Passage icing increases.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, for three months have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#14 Oct 15, 2012
litesong wrote:
Arctic sea ice extent is greater than the lowest minimum of 3 years recorded, either by satellite or submarine data, at 5,113,594 km2 (October 13, 2012), the day's rate reducing to Ohio sized growth. The sun has been unseen from the North Pole for ~3 weeks, temperatures above the 80th parallel fluctuating down to minus 17 degC(lower than this date, 2007 & other recent years), & temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean as low as -14 to -20 degC.

Arctic Ocean warmth is & will continue to keep Arctic sea ice thinner through the coming winter & even spring. As of October 2, Arctic sea ice VOLUME is ~23% lower than any satellite recorded year AND indications of submarine-detected Arctic sea ice yearly VOLUME.
Yes, the Arctic sea ice VOLUME is disappearing, year to year, quicker than the Arctic sea ice extent.
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litesong continues:
Presently, Arctic sea ice extent is above the next lowest three years' minimum Arctic sea ice extent, at 5,265,781 km2 (October 14, 2012), this day's brisk sea ice rate increasing to that of the area of Georgia. Temperatures above the 80th parallel average minus 17 degC, the past week's temperatures below the same week of 2007 & other recent years. Many temperatures on landforms surrounding the Arctic Ocean are as low as -14 to -20degC.
Arctic ice pack is closer to the Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land & Svalbard. Sea ice is strongly developing around the islands(connecting one set of Russian islands to the mainland).

A detail noted 5 days ago is a raggy taggy developing edge along a part of the semi-circle, possibly NOT coincidental with the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS (plus?) OF SQUARE KILOMETERS, of waters north of Alaska & Siberia that are VASTLY CLEAR. Might the raggy taggy edge indicate huge turbulence & currents in this largest(ever?) ice free, & resulting southerly-directed heat stratified Arctic waters? I wonder if there might develop more raggy taggy edging, enough to form a swirl pattern? Such a vast swirl at such a huge scale would be impossible...... wouldn't it?
Four days ago, noted near the raggy taggy ice pack, have developed 3 tiny pixel ice floes(arced?), separated from the Arctic ice pack toward southerly directions. Three days ago, the number of ice floes increased to 8 & indeed they formed an ARC. Pretty sure they represent a large scale vortex in open Arctic water!

Almost all large region southerly Arctic waters, including the Northeast passage, & waters north of mentioned islands remain ice free. Bulging southward sea ice at the west end of the Northwest Passage blocks the Northwest Passage. Internal Passage icing increases.

Downwellings in unusual clear Arctic waters, normally sea ice covered in decades past, for three months plus have & even now still transport extra solar energy to continental shelf, Arctic Ocean & sea depths.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#15 Oct 15, 2012
PHD

Houston, TX

#16 Oct 16, 2012
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#17 Oct 16, 2012
fun farts wrote:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cg i-bin/test/print.sh?fm=10& fd=11&fy=2012&sm=09 &sd=11&sy=2012
Here's a better comparison:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#18 Oct 16, 2012
Or this comparison:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...

All in all, there is no comparison, not even close. & the pictures also indicate the thinness of the ice.

In a graph here is an eye opener:
https://sites.google.com/site/pettitclimategr...

litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#19 Oct 16, 2012
PHD

Houston, TX

#21 Oct 17, 2012
Its not a wonder why the dirtling has so many issues with alll its titles.
Fun Facts

Las Cruces, NM

#22 Oct 17, 2012
litesong wrote:
Or this comparison:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...
All in all, there is no comparison, not even close. & the pictures also indicate the thinness of the ice.
In a graph here is an eye opener:
https://sites.google.com/site/pettitclimategr...
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cgi-bin/test/prin...
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#23 Oct 17, 2012
fun farts wrote:
http://igloo.atmos.uiuc.edu/cg i-bin/test/print.sh?fm=10& fd=13&fy=2012&sm=10 &sd=13&sy=2007
Even fun farts' comparison with 2007 is pathetic. 2012 still has the Arctic Russian islands, Franz Joseph Land, & Svalbard clear of the Arctic Ice Pack, vast clear waters to the north of Alaska & Siberia clear & almost universally, much thinner than 2007.

No comparison.'fun farts' loses again.... even his farts are lost in his wind.

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