Looking for help - Chronic Morning Di...
college girl

Newark, DE

#61 Jan 27, 2008
TJ - Nova Scotia wrote:
I am reading everyone's experiences and they are very similar to mine.
I'm a 37 year old female. For just over 3 wks. I've been waking up every morning about 2 hrs. before the alarm and having stomach cramps, then I have a BM, which is always very soft, and then nausea. Not sure whether I need to throw up or move my bowels.
Over the course of the next two hours or so it just gets worse. Lots of stomach gurgling and some gas. The gas and gurgling happen all day, the bowel evacuation and nausea does not. Actually, I have been noticing the nausea may show up later in the day but is usually fleeting. The stools are soft and getting softer, sometimes very watery. Lighter yellowish-brown as opposed to dark stool, with no visible blood. Dry heaving but no vomiting.
My doctor is sending me for a blood test for celiac disease. If that's negative, he has made it clear that the only logical answer would then be IBS. We have not done a stool sample.
I have eliminated dairy from my diet. Not sure if this is related, but three months ago I quit smoking and drinking coffee - both were daily habits.
I've been noticing pain in my lower left abdomen as well as low lying pain in the left side of my back.
In the morning, once this starts, I find it hard to calm down - trying to get back to sleep, the pain and cramps and nausea make me anxious, I cry and shake, the anxiety gives me stressful thoughts, which makes me go back to the bathroom and try to throw up.
It's been almost a month now and I am a small business owner. I feel like I am losing my mind.
If anyone can give me a short list of what this sounds like, that would be greatly appreciated. My quality of life is diminishing and I am fearing for my livelihood. Thank you in advance.
TJ Nova Scotia,
I feel ur pain. Every morning or every other morning I am having terrible gas pains and nausea. I have the sudden urge to throw up and sometimes dry heave but I always end up having a loose stool. It is only happening in the mornings but it takes 2/3 hrs out of my day. I also recently quit coffee 2 weeks ago and I was a hardcore 3 cups a day girl. I quit cold turkey and im not sure if it is related or not. I have been told I have IBS and have been put on Bentyl which didn't work, Levsin which also didn't work and i've also tried every over the counter med. I have had 2 blood tests for which nothing was suspicious. I also shake/cry b/c the abdominal pain is so intense in the mornings. Have you found any relief/diagnosis? My next step is to see a GI doc and possibly get a colonoscopy. I am so worried. Can anyone help me?
Sarah

Amarillo, TX

#62 Feb 17, 2008
Try taking a probiotic from a healthfood store! I had the same symptoms after taking a round of cipro! It finally stopped once I started taking the probiotics and have been great and dirrhea free since! Good Luck~
ARC wrote:
Can't believe I'm talking about this but... Late last year I came down with a fever accompanied by diarrhea. The fever passed and I stopped having constant diarrhea after 2 days. What followed were 2 of the worst months of my life every morning around 4:00 to 5:30 I would wake up with the worst gurgling in my stomach and have small thin ribbon-like diarrhea with a foul odor, usually at least 2-3 sessions in an hour. The rest of the day I just had excessive stomach growling and discomfort, but no diarrhea (even felt a bit constipated). Multiple trips to the family physician included stool samples, occult blood tests, & a CT scan, which all came back with nothing. I then scheduled a colonoscopy, the prep was horrible and the test came back negative, but afterwards the daily diarrhea I suffered was gone and stayed gone for 7 months!!! I can only think it was the test prep of flushing my system that somehow worked.
Two weeks ago, for the first time in 7 months I had a bout of diarrhea, which led to what appears to be a relapse of whatever I had before. Chronic morning diarrhea has started again in the exact same pattern. I went to the doctor again and he suggested the system flush (same as colonoscopy prep), which I tried again, but it didn't work this time. He suggested before putting me through the series of tests again this year that I try CIPRO, for "a random shot a knocking out the problem." I'm hesitant to try this because everything I read is that it is an aggressive antibiotic that has a high incidence of causing c-diffe, which I had for a month after taking Ceftin 7 or 8 years ago.
Other than this problem I am a very healthy active 30yr old male with no other history of health problems. This problem is having a negative impact on my career and life. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.
BMs

Broomfield, CO

#63 Feb 19, 2008
Immodium Advanced and full proper meals will subdue this problem. There is no way to "cure" the way a persons metabolism works. Only control it. This problem has been around since day 1 so it is a livable condition when properly controlled. Don't let depression add to the symptoms. Imagine how people felt when they had this condition and didn't have any medicine for it? The usual cause of "IBS/IDK" is an unhealthy and unbalanced diet. However, it's a myth that everyone should eat 3 big meals a day. Some people aren't built that way and instead should eat around 6 smaller meals a day. Stress leads to depression which can cause a person to lose their appetite which in turn can cause this condition. Avoid stress and get treated for depression if that is the case, try not to go to sleep on an empty stomach, if you're not a big eater try to eat around 6 small meals a day, keep yourself hydrated when you have symptoms, and use Immodium Advanced as directed. Note: Make sure you use Immodium ADVANCED and not Anti-Diarrheal.
Ron

Washington, DC

#64 Feb 26, 2008
I have had morning diarrhea for decades with strong urgency and gas in the morning. No other problems during the day after that. Tried quitting dairy and coffee, but no difference. I don't want to have a colonoscopy if I don't have to. I'm going to check out cock's crow diarrhea.
GGG

United States

#65 Feb 27, 2008
I HAVE HAD CONSTIPATION THEN DIREAH AFTERTHE DIREAH .I HAD SOME BLOOD WHEN I WIPE. THIS IS THE FRST TIME WHAT SHOULD I DO
AMW

UK

#66 Mar 2, 2008
I had IBS a few years ago which Western medicine couldn't cure, and like everyone else, a cause could not be determined. I visited a Chinese doctor and noticed a remarkable difference within about a couple of weeks. It took a few sessions of accupuncture and herbal medicine but I was eventually free from IBS. Unfortunately, this year, I had a really bad effects from a sickness & diarrhea bug in January which left me with "morning diarrhea", I'm back at the Chinese doctor and hopefully after a few weeks of treatment that will also be cured. Western medicine has its place but from my own experience, the Chinese have been practicing medicine a lot longer and I can't understand why Western doctors don't learn from them. I would recommend giving Chinese medicine a go, after all what have you got to lose - except morning misery!
Miserable in KY

La Grange, KY

#67 Mar 15, 2008
Very interesting reading these posts, as this is what I've een suffering from for the least few months. Stool cultures, bloodwork, colonoscopy, biopsy all show nothing. Yet every morning I race to the bathroom with diarrhea and nausea. I only throw up occasioanlly but dry heave daily. Strangly enough I am also experiencing weight GAIN - about 40 pounds in the last 5 months with no dietary changes. Thyroid tests normal. One night the pain was so severe I nearly went to the ER, but typically it's not that bad. However I have small children at home and I'm not caring for them the want I'd like because I spend 2-3 hours of every morning either in the bathroom or on the couch in pain. I've tried elimination diets and can't find anything obvious there. I do not know what to do next. And I'm sorry for all of you to read that I am not alone in this.

For PP who asked, yes I did take Accutane about 14 years ago.
AMW

UK

#68 Mar 20, 2008
To Miserable in KY
I should also mention, in my case, the Chinese doctor says my stomach is the cause of the diarrhea, not the intestine - could this be why Western medicine is missing the problem, because they're ignoring the stomach in their investigations. I realise not all the causes of this condition will be the same, neither will the cures.
Debbie

Fremont, CA

#69 Mar 25, 2008
I too have had previous problems with loose/watery and sometimes "exlposive" stool, gurgling stomach and early morning "urgencies". Those incidents are now,a rare occasion. I had a sigmoidoscopy, blood and stool tests. All returned normal. So there was no medial resolution - Then I was thinking that I haven't been eating good enough so I bought some Yogurt. I cannot guarantee or claim that the yogurt is what made the difference for sure, but ever since I had some yogurt, the loose/watery and gassy stool is no longer a problem.

However, I do have the problem of feelings of constipation with a soft stool. So obviously there is still an issue, but I'll take this problem over the urgent, watery, gassy stools anytime!
dip

Manchester, UK

#70 Mar 25, 2008
I am having the same symptoms as everyone else here. Urgency to use the loo first thing in the morning, usually around 6am. Also stomach pain and wind. This is making me so tired and getting me down. Going for an endoscopy in April just hope they can sort it out. Any suggestions would be greatly welcomed. Currently trying chinese herbal remedy but so far no improvement. Getting desperate now, please help!!!!!
add me

Athens, OH

#71 May 21, 2008
I may as well as my name to this list. Every morning for several hours I must make many trips to the John. Throughout the day I have stomach cramping and gas. It's scary gas too because I fear it I pass it I will have a repeat of the morning activities, if you catch my meaning. I wonder about one thing. I have a high sensitivity to such foods as sausage and bratwurst and some types of hot dogs. I can maybe eat one or two bites and my stomach begins to give me pain. Does anyone else have this also, or is this a separate thing?
Ali

Belmar, NJ

#72 May 24, 2008
ARC wrote:
Can't believe I'm talking about this but... Late last year I came down with a fever accompanied by diarrhea. The fever passed and I stopped having constant diarrhea after 2 days. What followed were 2 of the worst months of my life every morning around 4:00 to 5:30 I would wake up with the worst gurgling in my stomach and have small thin ribbon-like diarrhea with a foul odor, usually at least 2-3 sessions in an hour. The rest of the day I just had excessive stomach growling and discomfort, but no diarrhea (even felt a bit constipated). Multiple trips to the family physician included stool samples, occult blood tests, & a CT scan, which all came back with nothing..
Did you ever get to the bottom of this?? It really does sound like parasites. I have been going through something similar. I though I was gluten (and lactose) intolerant for several years until someone mentioned parasites. I am now getting tested for it. You need to seek out a holistic doctor who deals with this. No medical doctors that I have seen have even mentioned this to me and even labs (where stool is tested) will not find accurate results. Check on line for a doctor in your area (you can even try looking for doctors who deal with female hormones).
girlinthesouth

Harvey, LA

#73 May 28, 2008
I am very happy to see I am not the only one who has these problems! I have had them since I was 17, they were mild then, I would notice when I was sitting in class and would get horrible gas. VERY embarrassing! It slowly got worse over the years. About two years ago the chronic diarrhea started, maybe its a side effect from all the stress the first problem gave me. But here is what helps me- My doc suggested I take imodium every day, cause I have IBS. I take sometimes 3, and I feel like a normal person the next day. After I take it, sometimes it can take a little while to work for me. I used to drink an entire bottle of pepto bismol in a week, and that worked too, I just didnt like taking it daily. I hate mornings because I always feel so sick, like Im throwing up from the other end. It has affected my entire life and kept me from going back to school for fear I would get a horrible attack.. which has happened, and it was the most mortifying moment of my life. I have also tried a product called Colocerin, you can get it free with a trial period. It worked okay for me, but I didnt really get a chance to try it out for a long time. Right now I am sticking to imodium nearly every day.. and I dont want to try any prescription meds. Anyone else have tips?
Alice D

Houston, TX

#74 May 28, 2008
I have suffered similarly for the last two years. Tests found gallstones so I had my gall bladder removed in December. Everything seemed so much better that for awhile I thought I was cured. Recently the old problems have returned--diarrhea, particularly in the morning but possible anytime after I eat. Some nausea, too. My husband and I had a vacation to Paris and I had two embarassing incidents. I've cut down on caffiene, alcohol, cheese, fatty meats, chocolate and sugar, spicy foods, but the problems persist. I think I will take some of the advice here and try a Chinese doctor.
Ali

Budd Lake, NJ

#75 May 29, 2008
You should really try to see a naturopathic doctor or a different type of alternative doctor. Taking Imodium and Pepto is actually a terrible way to take care of the problem. There is a cause to your problem and those things are not only masking it but also depleting your body's natural ability to respond. You should do some research on the risks and consequences of routinely taking those.
girlinthesouth wrote:
I am very happy to see I am not the only one who has these problems! I have had them since I was 17, they were mild then, I would notice when I was sitting in class and would get horrible gas. VERY embarrassing! It slowly got worse over the years. About two years ago the chronic diarrhea started, maybe its a side effect from all the stress the first problem gave me. But here is what helps me- My doc suggested I take imodium every day, cause I have IBS. I take sometimes 3, and I feel like a normal person the next day. After I take it, sometimes it can take a little while to work for me. I used to drink an entire bottle of pepto bismol in a week, and that worked too, I just didnt like taking it daily. I hate mornings because I always feel so sick, like Im throwing up from the other end. It has affected my entire life and kept me from going back to school for fear I would get a horrible attack.. which has happened, and it was the most mortifying moment of my life. I have also tried a product called Colocerin, you can get it free with a trial period. It worked okay for me, but I didnt really get a chance to try it out for a long time. Right now I am sticking to imodium nearly every day.. and I dont want to try any prescription meds. Anyone else have tips?
LA McRoy

AOL

#76 May 30, 2008
OK, I have not written here in awhile; however, this is my "last cure". After removing my gallbladder, I was put on a psych drug called Doxepin and an anti spasmatic drug called Librax. The way it was explained to me was...believe it or not (and I was in the not category) was that I was experiencing phantom pain and that my brain really still thought I had a stomach ache, etc. Very reluctantly, I tried this method. What did I have to lose....and I am happy to report it is working! The worst part is finding the correct dosage of each medication, but my Dr. is fabulous. So, if you have exhausted all other resources, you just might want to try this. Yes, you really did/do feel the pain, but it just might all be in your head. That was tough for me to accept, but once I did...I finally feel like I am getting back to normal.
Joe

Sacramento, CA

#77 Jun 2, 2008
Your situation sounds like it could be diverticulitis. I'm 39 and I had it. I had the ,lower left pain and back pain associated. I Kept telling my doctor that my back and gut problems were connected. I tried physical therapy for the back, had all kinds of CT scans and I would take antibiotics when I got the severe pain and diarrhea. I had surgery last year to remove the portion of my colon that was affected. I was in the hospital for five days and it is a long recovery but it fixed the problem and I am back to normal. I would suggest a CT scan at the least...sometimes a colonoscopy doesn't show as well. Good luck.
TJ - Nova Scotia wrote:
I am reading everyone's experiences and they are very similar to mine.
I'm a 37 year old female. For just over 3 wks. I've been waking up every morning about 2 hrs. before the alarm and having stomach cramps, then I have a BM, which is always very soft, and then nausea. Not sure whether I need to throw up or move my bowels.
Over the course of the next two hours or so it just gets worse. Lots of stomach gurgling and some gas. The gas and gurgling happen all day, the bowel evacuation and nausea does not. Actually, I have been noticing the nausea may show up later in the day but is usually fleeting. The stools are soft and getting softer, sometimes very watery. Lighter yellowish-brown as opposed to dark stool, with no visible blood. Dry heaving but no vomiting.
My doctor is sending me for a blood test for celiac disease. If that's negative, he has made it clear that the only logical answer would then be IBS. We have not done a stool sample.
I have eliminated dairy from my diet. Not sure if this is related, but three months ago I quit smoking and drinking coffee - both were daily habits.
I've been noticing pain in my lower left abdomen as well as low lying pain in the left side of my back.
In the morning, once this starts, I find it hard to calm down - trying to get back to sleep, the pain and cramps and nausea make me anxious, I cry and shake, the anxiety gives me stressful thoughts, which makes me go back to the bathroom and try to throw up.
It's been almost a month now and I am a small business owner. I feel like I am losing my mind.
If anyone can give me a short list of what this sounds like, that would be greatly appreciated. My quality of life is diminishing and I am fearing for my livelihood. Thank you in advance.
James

Virginia Beach, VA

#78 Jun 4, 2008
I am in the military and from past experiences kind of afraid of going, but I finally had to go. The week of the initial signs of a problem:
Ate tuna, pizza, salads, italian dressing, cold cuts(Ham/Turkey)and of course Miracle whip. Alot of water and Mountain dews. Normal gym routine, run about 30 miles a week. 5'9, 185, dont drink, non-smoker and never take over the counter medication. Problem: Could not sit down, pain in lower right side of abdomen, warm to touch, lose stool. Afraid of doctor, thought I had food poisoning and cut back on what I was eating and trying to determine what it was. A month goes by, still had dull pain in right side and had constant boughts of upset stomach. One day in course, I could not sit down, had to stand up for 4 hours to fight the urge of having to go to the bathroom. Thought it was nerves, however this cannot be because Im use to being close to people, play alot of sports and very competitive. I called the medical center to set up an appointment, and they said to come in to sick call, sounds like you could have appendicitis. I thought you would be curled up in a ball and extreme pain if you had that, they said no. So I went in the next morning, they did the urinalysis and blood work and sent me on my way. I waited two weeks for the results, meanwhile same symptoms, sitting down made me feel I had to use the bathroom, pain in lower right side(dull/odd) and dia. I finally got a hold of the nurse and she informed me that my results looked good except my TBILI was 2.0 kind of high and my RBC CNT was 6.03. Asked me was I taking medication(tylenol) I said no. Told me to come in if I continue to have problems.
A month goes by and I still the same unease and I went to by some imodium to see if that would help. Could it be nerves/stress I was thinking to myself! Felt better after taking it, then the next morning had sever cramps in stomach, went to sick call. The Doctor said imodium does that to some people and to take Lomotil. I was prescribed Lomotil and told to go to the hospital at my next duty station. I am still having the same symptoms, has gotten so bad Im afraid to even leave because I dont know when I will have to go to the bathroom. I will be going to the hospital Monday to see what they say, but could anyone give me any ideas?
Here are my test results:
Blood
WBC... 6.3 (2.9-9.1)
RBC CNT...6.03 (3.9-5.9) High
HGB... 17.4 (13.5-17.5)
HCT.. 50.8 (41-53)
MCV.. 84.1 (80-98)
MCH.. 28.8 (27.0-33.2)
MCHC.. 34.3 (32-36)
RDW.. 12.3 (11.5-15.5)
Platelets..238 (139-371)
MPV... 8.5 (7.4-10.4)
neut%.. 59.7 (42.5-75.12)
lymph.. 32.2 (13.9-44.2)
mono%.. 6.4 (4.7-12.7)
EOS%.. 1.3 (0.0-5.0)
BASO%.. 0.4 (0.0-1.9)
Urine
Color ...Clear
Clarity..Clear
SG...1.010 (1.010-1.030)
Urobilinogen.. 0.2 (0.1-1.0)
Blood (NEG)
Bilirubin (NEG)
Ketones (NEG)
GLUCOSE (NEG)
Protein (NEG)
PH .. 5.5 (5.0-8.0)
Nitrate (NEG)
Leuko est (NEG)
WBC UA .... 1-5
RBC UA..... 1-3
MIC:BTERIA ..TRACE
EPITHL CEL SQAU.. 0-2
Glucose .. 75 (74-106)
BUN.. 18 (7-18)
CREAT.. 1.2 (0.6-1.3)
GFR-NONBLACK .. 72 (60->60)
NA+... 140 (136-145)
K... 3.7 (3.5-5.1)
CL-...100 (98-107)
CO2...31 (21-32)
CA... 9.1 (8.5-10.1)
Protein 7.2 (6.4-8.2)
Albumin 4.2 (3.4-5.0)
ALK PHOS .. 93 (50-136)
ALT... 40 (20-65)
AST...22 (8-40)
TBILI.. 2.0 HIGH (0-1.2)
James

Virginia Beach, VA

#79 Jun 4, 2008
I am now doing my own searches on the internet and have learned a great deal about the human stomach and how it works. However, now realize it will take a great deal of more testing to determine what I have or what it could be. I am hoping that if someone has had a similar problem or that if the Doctor has overlooked something that you could help me out. Thank you. The lomotil has given the feeling of security and maybe a false pretense of being safe. I went to get a haircut yesterday and almost had to leave because I was afraid of, "what if I have to go to the bathroom and I cannot leave"...That is a horrible feeling, I fought through it but what could be causing this? A parasite? This has been ongoing for 3 months now?? Remember I ran marathons, very athletive, always around groups of people, but now cant. My weight is now 162, remember it was 185, still have DIA bought/gas in the morning and the same dull pain in the right side below the rib cage. I cannot play sports right now or be around a group of people without feeling uneasy. Thanks again for any help in regards.
James 2

Virginia Beach, VA

#80 Jun 4, 2008
I am now doing my own searches on the internet and have learned a great deal about the human stomach and how it works. However, now realize it will take a great deal of more testing to determine what I have or what it could be. I am hoping that if someone has had a similar problem or that if the Doctor has overlooked something that you could help me out. Thank you. The lomotil has given the feeling of security and maybe a false pretense of being safe. I went to get a haircut yesterday and almost had to leave because I was afraid of, "what if I have to go to the bathroom and I cannot leave"...That is a horrible feeling, I fought through it but what could be causing this? A parasite? This has been ongoing for 3 months now?? Remember I ran marathons, very athletive, always around groups of people, but now cant. My weight is now 162, remember it was 185, still have DIA bought/gas in the morning and the same dull pain in the right side below the rib cage. I cannot play sports right now or be around a group of people without feeling uneasy. Thanks again.

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