'Miracle drug' called junk science

'Miracle drug' called junk science

There are 11 comments on the Newsday story from May 21, 2009, titled 'Miracle drug' called junk science. In it, Newsday reports that:

Dr. Mark Geier and his son, David, say they have developed a treatment for autism that produces dramatic results.

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Judge Brainy

Atlanta, GA

#1 May 21, 2009
If Mark and David Geier can be so thoroughly and roundly denounced and discredited by every other scientist and doctor out there, how is it that they are still able to go out publicly pushing their junk-science "cure"?

The fact that all of the medical world can be opposed to their claim and yet they can still be marketing this freely is, to me, proof that the "system" isn't working. This kind of fraud is something that should be able to be prevented when enough professionals and experts recognize it and publicly avow that it's a fraud.

So why is that not what's happening here?
Jeff K

New York, NY

#2 May 21, 2009
What is not working here is that parents of autistic children will grasp at anything to "cure" their autistic children whether it is proven or not. There are so many charlatans out there touting unproven treatments.
Judge Brainy

Atlanta, GA

#3 May 21, 2009
But there should be something in place to keep the charlatans from being charlatans, and from making scads of money selling snake oil to desperate people.

Come on, when all of these doctors and scientists are CONDEMNING this "treatment" and calling it a "horror," and the purveyors of it are STILL able to be opening "clinics" around the country, something is wrong. If the full weight of the medical and scientific communities cannot prevent fraud from being offered as hope, how good is our system? Do not forget, YOUR TAX MONEY (MEDICARE) IS BEING USED TO PAY FOR THIS!! Your insurance premiums are being used for it, too!
Anonymous

United States

#5 May 21, 2009
What's frightening is that they're using what amounts to castration as a 'treatment'. It's bad enough that they're allowed to circumcise (another practice based on junk science).
Bobbie

Middleburg, FL

#6 May 22, 2009
The first malpractice lawsuit will stop them cold in their tracks.
Joanne Bowne

Bedford, NH

#7 May 22, 2009
Judge Brainy wrote:
If Mark and David Geier can be so thoroughly and roundly denounced and discredited by every other scientist and doctor out there, how is it that they are still able to go out publicly pushing their junk-science "cure"?
The fact that all of the medical world can be opposed to their claim and yet they can still be marketing this freely is, to me, proof that the "system" isn't working. This kind of fraud is something that should be able to be prevented when enough professionals and experts recognize it and publicly avow that it's a fraud.
So why is that not what's happening here?
I agree 100% with this. How many other "lupron" type drugs can we expect now?! Horrific feeling I have over this as a mom to a 6yr old autistic. She has grown on her own merit and with much hard work from all of us in her life. "Normalcy" will never be possible, or will it?...she grows more with each day. Stunting them will not help!
Teddy R

Ashburn, VA

#8 May 22, 2009
How is it that the FDA allows this off-label practice, and howcum State medical boards aren't shutting these charlatans down?
Illinois

Schaumburg, IL

#9 Jun 24, 2009
Judge Brainy wrote:
If Mark and David Geier can be so thoroughly and roundly denounced and discredited by every other scientist and doctor out there, how is it that they are still able to go out publicly pushing their junk-science "cure"?
The fact that all of the medical world can be opposed to their claim and yet they can still be marketing this freely is, to me, proof that the "system" isn't working. This kind of fraud is something that should be able to be prevented when enough professionals and experts recognize it and publicly avow that it's a fraud.
So why is that not what's happening here?
Hey! Theres a Democratic Senate, Congress, and President. Frauds, running rampant!

Since: Jun 09

Mount Pleasant, PA

#10 Jun 26, 2009
WOW. I don't know what to say...
Being a professional in the field and working with autistic children, I feel that these two doctors are way off base. They are claiming that aggressions in ustistic teens are due to high levels of testosterone. IMO, aggressions are due to the fact that many autistic children cannot verbalize their wants and needs and that causes the behaviors. I urge parents not to try this quack treatment. Seek help through therapists and non profit agencies in your community. They will lead you in the right direction.
Brian Fellow

Corinth, ME

#11 Jun 28, 2009
Does this mean that the cures I see on Oprah are also of dubious scientific value? I saw Suzanne Summers claiming that injecting pregnant mare urine into your v-gina will keep you young and vibrant and that the "mainstream medical community" wants to suppress this information so that they can make more money...

Please don't tell me that a marginal 70's television can't be trusted!
FBOMBER

Canada

#12 Apr 5, 2011
Judge Brainy wrote:
If Mark and David Geier can be so thoroughly and roundly denounced and discredited by every other scientist and doctor out there, how is it that they are still able to go out publicly pushing their junk-science "cure"?
The fact that all of the medical world can be opposed to their claim and yet they can still be marketing this freely is, to me, proof that the "system" isn't working. This kind of fraud is something that should be able to be prevented when enough professionals and experts recognize it and publicly avow that it's a fraud.
So why is that not what's happening here?
If it was Merck or Pfizer releasing this news you'd be praising this news. Even though companies have long extensive histories of misconduct and lawsuit. Someone has to do research and make attempts to help autistic children. The thought behind this treatment is that testosterone is higher amoung those labelled autistic, and it contributes to problems caused by vaccine ingredients aluminum amd thimerosal (mercury). Lowering testosterone appears to help, hence the trial use of this drug. Using the word castration is simply inflamatory and disregards the true nature of the srory. But thats how the misinformed usually reacts instead of trying to understand. Everyone has an opinion and an A-hole. These men are medical pioneers who are trying to treat vaccine damage victims.

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