the pro-adjuster

the pro-adjuster

There are 638 comments on the WBIR Knoxville story from Aug 15, 2007, titled the pro-adjuster. In it, WBIR Knoxville reports that:

Going to the chiropractor can be scary for some people. The adjusting and manipulation of the spine cause some to stay away, but a new device may change that.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WBIR Knoxville.

Since: Jul 07

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

#101 Apr 16, 2008
SOT:
http://www.sorsi.com/sotreferences.htm

Activator:
http://www.activator.com/research_04/page_124...

DNFT:
I couldn't find a research page for DNFT, which is not really surprising ... very few jurisdictions actually recognize DNFT as a chiropractic technique. I know that in Alberta it is specifically listed as not allowed - probably because of the lack of support for it.

Of course, I don't expect that this will change much in your thought processes. In fact you'll probably just repeat yourself ... again ... and again.
random guy

Eau Claire, WI

#102 May 18, 2008
wow lawman, u have such a biased opinion. have u ever even been to a chiropractor? if u have, u would see what they can do. my brother struggled with hearing problems. we tried every medicine, NOTHING WORKED. then we went to the chiropractor who fixed it in a month. i challenge u to go visit a chiropractor and u will see the miracles they can work. THEY ARENT BRAINWASHING. the pro adjuster is just another machine that helps chiropractors do their job, which is helping people
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#103 May 18, 2008
Yeah, just another quack technique. Accepted by all the chiropractors that say all techniques work

You'll never hear a quacker say another quacker is practicing quackery.

They're all in it together.
nwrk2007

Fort Worth, TX

#104 May 18, 2008
Wisdumb, you just continue to contradict yourself. On the one hand you say that all chiro's claim all techniques work and then on the other you say they can't agree on which techniques work. I don't think you have a clue about what ever it is you are talking about.

I think you just talk chiropractic out of your Ass.

And hey there random guy, the lawman is a chiro. Failed of course. His name's Doug. And the nay sayers will never capitulate to success stories, even from actual patients like yourself. They will atribute your success with your chiropractor to some glitch in the matrix that they refer to as placebo.
nwtk2007

Dallas, TX

#105 May 24, 2008
It's amazing how the truth brings the naysayers to a grinding halt.
Dr Moe

Pittsburgh, PA

#106 Jul 28, 2008
Nucca Chiro wrote:
I really hate that machine ....
What do you know about it, The ProAdjuster that is? If you would like to get educated you should get in touch with me. I designed it and have over 3000 units in 10 countries. Dr Pisciottano is my name, in case you have not heard of me.

Since: Jul 07

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

#107 Jul 29, 2008
Dr Moe wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you know about it, The ProAdjuster that is? If you would like to get educated you should get in touch with me. I designed it and have over 3000 units in 10 countries. Dr Pisciottano is my name, in case you have not heard of me.
I know who you are as well as how your machine functions, Dr Pisciottano. On the very surface, the premise and direction behind the pro-adjuster is enticing, and as a purely evaluatory tool for getting an accurate sense of P-A restriction, it has definite potential. As an adjusting instrument and even in its information measurement, I see it having several shortcomings, and then there are issues I have for philosophical and treatment approach reasons:

- you are essentially measuring facet fixations, yet you measure them with a forked contact connected to a single driving solenoid ... this limits your information to a "whole unit" resistance of the segment without any possible R-L differentiation.

- There is no rotational potential either in the evaluation with the device, nor the adjusting.

- you state (in documentation and on the website) that the adjusting head "beats" spinal reflexes, and while it is likely true that the devices delivers the force before the muscles can respond, if you illicit a stretch reflex with vertebral motion through your adjustment, then you will STILL elicit the reflex, causing the muscles to react in the opposite direction. This is not specific to your equipment, but has been an unanswered concern of mine with nearly any HVLA adjusting with the intention of moving the bone before the body can react ... the physiology and theory just don't add up.

- you essentially locate and mobilize fixed segments. There is no indication or apparent effort to correct a misalignment ... to me that makes the device a potentially beneficial therapy in support or management, but would fall short as a corrective treatment.

Then there is the simple fact that I don't like the way your marketing of the device is set up. You aren't just selling DCs the equipment ... in fact, nobody gets to buy it - it is set up as a lease. And they also are brought in to what works out to be a practice management program surrounding the whole "proadjuster experience". This looks good on the surface, but when your revenue increases are based on increasing return visits, it strikes me as counter to the idea of actually correcting a person so that they don't HAVE to come in as much. If you are increasing revenues by having patients return more often, that seems to me to indicate that the treatment method is less effective. Now if those revenue increases were based off of new patients generated rather than just squeezing more out of the ones you have, THAT's real growth.

Also, a couple years ago when I looked at the programs that you had available, any lease agreements also mandatorily included the proadjuster office software along with other "perks" that came with a hefty monthly price tag. None of these things is inherently bad, in fact some are quite good, but when it's packaged in an all-or-none type of package, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It may have been done with the best of intentions, but I call them as they appear.

Anyway ... that at least scratches the surface of answering your comment/question. Feel free to educate me further if I am grossly mistaken on any of it.
Rambo

Brooklyn, NY

#108 Jul 30, 2008
Two quacks arguing their quack techniques. How funny is this?

Wisdom, friend, as usual, you are brilliant.

bro2be
Impulse

Export, PA

#109 Nov 6, 2008
Actually, Moe did not develop anything. Check out www.sigma-instruments.com , they make the "Pro-Adjuster". Use to be called the Smart-Adjuster.

They didn't even develop it. Keep searching and you'll find the real deal.

smartman

Framingham, MA

#110 Nov 20, 2008
lawman wrote:
http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/ chiroimmu.html
And here is another reason NOT to get health advice from a chiropractor.
You know you are a retard.....right lawman.....I agree with you about the machine but the entire profession of chiropractic....please get educated....thanks
proadjuster cripple

Canonsburg, PA

#111 Feb 12, 2009
I lost all hope in my condition. A chronic low back and neck pain that was never alleviated by witch doctor treatments such as chiropratic care. After hearing about and researching exstensively, I decided to give the technology a try. My first visit was full of hope and motivation. After that, I was set up on routine schedule that absolutely wasted my time. As an athlete, I pride myself in understanding my body. I am still aware of how my body responds to adverse situations. The pro adjuster and its doctors (who have undergone so much training that they should accomplish spinal alignment without touching a patient)were excited and obviously blinded by an overlying brainwashing that this instrument had any real industry purpose. Since, I have experienced constant neck and back pain that has only gotten worse. Funny, This marketing faux pas has cost good doctors around the country millions of unecessary dollars and thousands of patients extended despair. Mr pissytano has created a fabricated image of self wellness that he himself relies upon liposuction and cosmetic surgury to enhance his own selfish image (dude hit the Gym and do some cardio). Oh Mr pissytano you are great, and your product, as strong as your own thought of your own self. Let me fake an image of total wellness to the public and treat all who come in contact with me like sh!t. I even received treatment from the heart of the operations, the origin of all industry bullsh!t, Washington, PA from his very own self trained and super trained staff at Southpointe, PA.... what a joke! you suck!
jdasieo

Gibsonia, PA

#112 Jul 6, 2009
moe, all you care about is sex and money not your clients.the truth will eventually come out and everyone will see what your really about.
wondering

Philadelphia, PA

#113 Aug 10, 2009
Does anyone know how I can get a copy of the literature that a chiropractor would receive along with the ProAdjuster? The warnings and contraindications?
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#114 Aug 10, 2009
The "proadjuster" is a scam chiropractic technique.
There is NO research or evidence to support the outrageous claims that these chiropractors make.
You will not find any legitimate literature about "warnings and contraindications". Period.
The chiropractic diaper is full. It needs to be emptied.
wondering

Philadelphia, PA

#115 Aug 10, 2009
I just thought that if a chiropractor orders it, when they receive it, there must be SOME type of literature that comes with it.

Do any of the chiropractors on this forum know?
L Baines

AOL

#116 Sep 28, 2009
Wisdom wrote:
Yeah, just another quack technique. Accepted by all the chiropractors that say all techniques work
You'll never hear a quacker say another quacker is practicing quackery.
They're all in it together.
And let's not forget that this idiot, Wisediaper, does not have any medical, or chiropractic training of any description. He has NO degrees in anything. He has NO clinical experience in anything even remotely related to health care. Nothing. He's simply a jealous, angry failure who only wishes he was a successful chiropractor. He'll never be that, so he slams chiropractic to others. That's all his posts are about. Remember, he has NO credentials. None. So his opinions are worthless. Sure, he'll deny this and write even longer posts then this--for the purpose of diverting your attention to the FACT that he has NO degrees and NO credentials. He's just a FRAUD.
screwed up NH DC

Madison, ME

#117 Nov 6, 2009
I did business with Maurice Angelo Pisciottano, hence the nickname "screwed up".
This guy is a total fraud, His instrument don't work, He didn't even develop it, He has screwed up all his business associates, His employees, the leasing companies etc. He can't even get pro adjusters anymore since he screwed up Sigma too. Now He's a "used pro adjuster salesman".
He managed to get in business with another instrument developper, which I won't name since I have some esteem for, and repackaged his $1000 instrument for $10000 and repackeged his $5000 instrument for $17000. He was paying $8000 for his pro adjusters and reselling them for $60000 -$90000. No Joke we all got screwed, especially you all idiots that got that fraud's instrument and are all not saying anything.
Now, Little liposucked Moe is getting sued, up the Wazoo, What comes around goes around, Can't wait to see that Bentley on the repo hauler....

Good luck to everybody that ever dealt with this fraud, I guess we're all suckers...

Earl Keese

“global warming is a hoax”

Since: Apr 08

knoxville

#118 Nov 6, 2009
"I guess we're all suckers..."

well, considering you live in new hampshire, that's a given.
DCin WA

Renton, WA

#119 Nov 13, 2009
I contacted a DC/friend and asked about the Pro. He sees 250 pv/wk. Twice what I do. He told me to buy the Pro. "Even if it were 100K, just buy it and you will thank me in three months." I have not thanked him yet! So I went to Pitts. listened to Moe and his croonies for 2 days. Extreme pressure to buy. 15 DC's bought. So I did. There were only 16 of us there. Did not believe a thing Moe said. Phyical Therapist's wanted to buy the Pro. BS! Moe designed the Pro. BS! Now I want to get out of my $1,200 mo contract. Any ideas? New something was up when his fleet of Hummers went back and he moved out of that Tax Majal. Black Bentley next.
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#120 Nov 13, 2009
Here's the bottom line.

The "proadjuster" is a scam chiropractic technique.
There is NO research or evidence to support the outrageous claims that these chiropractors make.
You will not find any legitimate literature about "warnings and contraindications". Period.
The chiropractic diaper is full. It needs to be emptied.

Don't feel bad "DC", poeple are scammed every day.

Heck, just think how many poeple bought a time share today that they will regret for the rest of their lives.

Look, chiropractic's foundation is all "BS".

You have taken a very small first step in emptying your chiropractic diaper. Congrats.

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