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Can chiropractor legally prescribe medications?

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Since: Aug 10

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#1 Oct 30, 2010
Hello,

Over the summer i hurt my neck bad. Bruised 2nd and 3rd vertebrae. Tests showed no nerve damage. But it has been about 2 or 3 months. My neck is throbbing all the time now. Definitely feels like nerve damage, bulging disks, ect.....

I see a psychiatrist and I my next appointment I am going to see if he can precribe something for my pain. Possibly neurontin, soma, flexerol.

Can chiropractor prescribe medication? Thank You

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#2 Nov 1, 2010
The only state where DC's can prescribe is New Mexico. That is a very recent law that passed and doctors are being trained at this time in pharmacology. No other state that I am aware of is interested in this, although the change in NM may spur other, more liberal, states to give DC's a limited formulary.
Placebo

Moultrie, GA

#3 Nov 1, 2010
Why do Chiropractors need to prescribe drugs? Isn't that contrary to the chiropractic philosophy that the body can heal itself?
Aerial View

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#4 Nov 1, 2010
Placebo wrote:
Why do Chiropractors need to prescribe drugs? Isn't that contrary to the chiropractic philosophy that the body can heal itself?
The chiropractors who practice only chiropractic don't need to prescribe drugs. They get great results and have successful practices without using drugs.
New Mexico chiropractors are offered the option of prescribing certain drugs from a formulary. It was determined there were a lack of primary care physicians in many rural areas in New Mexico. A lot of New Mexico chiropractors practice in these areas. This is one way of filling that void.
In my opinion, I don't think the rest of the states will follow New Mexico's lead so quickly. Chiropractors don't need to prescribe pain relievers since they are so readily available over the counter. The state where I practice is considering adding a formulary similar to New Mexico's. I doubt I'll choose to prescribe drugs if the opportunity presents itself. I enjoy great success the way I practice--getting people out of pain very quickly and enjoying every day doing so.
Chiropractic, the way it is, is the greatest profession on earth. I would highly recommend a career in chiropractic for those who have a desire to help others.
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#5 Nov 1, 2010
Chiropractors in NM now claim that after a 90 hour, yes you read that correctly, a 90 hour "holiday Inn course, that they will be "qualified" to prescribe pharmaceuticals.

I mean really? is there anything more bizarre than that?

thankfully, its just a few limited medications, like "oxygen water, "lidocaine?

They are a bizarre bunch. indeed, their clinical experience before they graduate does not include examining, diagnosing or treating really/ significant conditions or illnesses. So why, exactly, would anyone think they are qualified to be "portal of entry practitioners"?

Chiropractors are desperate, beware.

Yes, placebo, the underlying philosophy and foundation of chiropractic, as taught by every chiropractic school is that the body can heal itself if it is "subluxation free". Its pretty stupid and also there's not two chiropractors who can agree what a subluxation is and how it can be detected. Chiropractic is stupid at best, dangerous at worse. beware.

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#6 Nov 1, 2010
Wisdom wrote:
Chiropractors in NM now claim that after a 90 hour, yes you read that correctly, a 90 hour "holiday Inn course, that they will be "qualified" to prescribe pharmaceuticals.
I mean really? is there anything more bizarre than that?
thankfully, its just a few limited medications, like "oxygen water, "lidocaine?
They are a bizarre bunch. indeed, their clinical experience before they graduate does not include examining, diagnosing or treating really/ significant conditions or illnesses. So why, exactly, would anyone think they are qualified to be "portal of entry practitioners"?
Chiropractors are desperate, beware.
Yes, placebo, the underlying philosophy and foundation of chiropractic, as taught by every chiropractic school is that the body can heal itself if it is "subluxation free". Its pretty stupid and also there's not two chiropractors who can agree what a subluxation is and how it can be detected. Chiropractic is stupid at best, dangerous at worse. beware.
Wisdom just lied to you again. But hey, that's why I'm here--to correct the record with the truth. Wisdom lies with each post--no really, he does. Lies or deceives, take your pick. For example, this is the New Mexico chiropractic formulary. The fraud would have you believe that it only consists of oxygen and lidocaine.
Here it is:
Hormones for topical, sublingual, oral use

(1) estradiol

(2) progesterone

(3) testosterone

(4) desicated thyroid

B. Muscle relaxers; cyclobenzaprine

C. NSAIDs - prescription strength

(1) ibuprofen

(2) naproxen

D. Prescription medications for topical use

(1) NMDC Ca2 dextromethorphan

(2) NSAIDSs

(a) ketoprofen

(b) piroxicam

(c) naproxen

(d) ibuprofen

(e) diclofenac

(3) Muscle relaxers; cyclobenzaprine

(4) Sodium chanel antagonist; lidocaine

E. Homeopathics requiring prescription

F. Other substances by injection

(1) sterile water

(2) sterile saline

(3) sarapin or its generic

(4) caffeine

(5) procaine HCL

(6) epinephrine

(7) homeopathic for injection

G. Glutathione for inhalation
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#7 Nov 1, 2010
Mr. quacker, the 90 hour "course" is a fact.

And what a very strange list of compounds. Injecting water? Injecting caffeine?

Just more evidence that the chiropractic diaper is full. Where the heck do you quackers come up with such nonsense?

"aerial" did you go to your 90 hour course yet? Are you now qualified to prescribe estradiol? ha ha

You certainly are one dumb ass chiropractor!
Aerial View

AOL

#8 Nov 1, 2010
Wisdom wrote:
Mr. quacker, the 90 hour "course" is a fact.
And what a very strange list of compounds. Injecting water? Injecting caffeine?
Just more evidence that the chiropractic diaper is full. Where the heck do you quackers come up with such nonsense?
"aerial" did you go to your 90 hour course yet? Are you now qualified to prescribe estradiol? ha ha
You certainly are one dumb ass chiropractor!
AHHHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA! Notice how wisdom 'amended' his lie when I caught him in that lie! Yes, wisdom had to AMEND his lie. The liar knows the list of drugs New Mexico chiropractors can prescribe is a lot mor extensive than 'sterile water' and lidocaine, as wisdom begged you to believe. But wisdom lied, I presented proof, so now he's left with "Well that could be, but they still take only 90 hours of training." he he he LIAR! New Mexico chiropractors do have a 90 hour course AND (now get this lying dumb ass) HOSPITAL TRAINING AND CLINICAL TRAINING SEEING LOTS OF PATIENTS IN HOSPITALS.
But, wisdom chose to lie--yet again, and again, and again....so on and so on and so on. Lies. Lies. Lies. Each of wisdom's posts--lies. And he knows it.
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#9 Nov 1, 2010
Yeah, "lots of hospital patients", ha ha. Funny, but how are the "hospital patients" able to get to the Holiday Inn?

And please give me one more laugh ..... name just one hospital in the world where chiropractors are injecting patients with things like "water and estradiol".

Take your time. Exposing you as a quack is my pleasure.

Hint: "aerial" , you are doing more damage to the chiropractic enterprise with every post. maybe you should just quit.

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#10 Nov 1, 2010
My quote, "its just a few limited medications, like "oxygen water, "lidocaine?"

Aerial's response, " list of drugs New Mexico chiropractors can prescribe is a lot mor extensive than 'sterile water' and lidocaine,..."

There are literally thousands of drugs currently on the market. Only a very few of them can be prescribed by a very few NM chiropractors.

And only in the demented mind of this chiropractor is that a "lie".

aerial is truly a dumb ass.

Funny though, how you never questioned any of the bull crap that you were taught in quackery school. Never called his "activator" teacher a "liar".

Proving once again that the chiropractic diaper is loaded.
Aerial View

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#11 Nov 1, 2010
Wisdom wrote:
My quote, "its just a few limited medications, like "oxygen water, "lidocaine?"
Aerial's response, " list of drugs New Mexico chiropractors can prescribe is a lot mor extensive than 'sterile water' and lidocaine,..."
There are literally thousands of drugs currently on the market. Only a very few of them can be prescribed by a very few NM chiropractors.
And only in the demented mind of this chiropractor is that a "lie".
aerial is truly a dumb ass.
Funny though, how you never questioned any of the bull crap that you were taught in quackery school. Never called his "activator" teacher a "liar".
Proving once again that the chiropractic diaper is loaded.
AHAHAHA What did I tell you? What did I tell YOU! Wisdom copped out. He can't answer the simple question: Do you practice as EITHER a chiropractor or a medical doctor?
The fraud can't answer, yet he would like to deceive you into thinking, saayyyyyyyyyyyyyy maybe he does. Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. he he he
The liar and fraud, wisdom, is not credible. He doesn't have ANY sort of professional health care training. No professional health care degrees. No license. No clinical experience. NEVER has he treated even a single patient for ANYTHING. YET--he's a chiropractic expert! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HA HA HA AH AH AH AH AH AH
FRAUD! FRAUD! CON! CON! FRAUD! FRAUD!!!

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#12 Nov 2, 2010
Please note that chiropractors are also taught pharmacology and toxicology as part of their curriculum. It is about a 5 semester hour course. In order to prescribe in NM, they will also have to have passed a national board exam. There really is not anything that the regular drug-pushing MD does that a chiropractor CAN'T do, but most of us do not want medicine in the practice. As far as Wisdom goes, he/she has very little and is probably a physical therapist or DO that has had its widdle biddy toes stepped on by a DC that treated patients in a RESPONSIBLE manner. Medicine does not own the market place. Wisdom can shove it.
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#13 Nov 2, 2010
"ziggy", I suspect a fellow quacker of aerial's, said, "There really is not anything that the regular drug-pushing MD does that a chiropractor CAN'T do,....."

Only in the demented mind of a chiroquacker. Yeah, I guess chiropractors can do everything that a medical doctor can except that he ...... does NOT have the clinical experience in examining, diagnosing or treating thousands of truly ill patients.

the clinical experience that is required by most chiroquackery schools is that the chiropractic student do 250 "adjustments", whatever that may be as there are NO best practices models that chiropractors follow, and at least see/"examine" 10 different people total.

I know for a fact that many of these "patients" that chiropractic students see to make there quota are family members and friends.

Boy, fact can sure get in the way of the chiropractic imagination.

Oh and "ziggyboy", the 90 hour Holiday Inn course for chiropracotrs in NM is a fact. if you can't admit that then you are just another lying chiropractor, bent on ripping off innocent people.

And you can stop with your claim that you are trained in pharmacology. while you briefly may review some medications like NSAIDS etc, you get NO actual experience in prescribing or administering any medications. PERIOD.

want to deny that? Go ahead mr. qacker. i know more about your enterprise than you could ever imagine.

I need a laugh mr. "ziggy", where did you go to quackery school and what "chiropractic" techniques do you use to locate and remove chiropractic subluxations? please link me to any chiropractic best practices model which would indicate which technique should be used for a particular condition. And how would you know that a particular technique is better for a particular condition than another technique. For example: is nucca or dnft better for asthma. is one better for spinal stenosis? is one better for bed wetting? how do you know?
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#14 Nov 2, 2010
Oh and before I go "ziggy", your quack colleague here "aerial" has claimed he was expertly trained in wound care and that he "treats deep wounds".

Now is you chance ziggy, you can defend this idiot for making that claim or "man up" and dneoucne him as a fellow quack. You can "man up" and be honest and admit that NO chiropractor is trained in wound care. that No chiropractor is qualified to change dressing, apply or prescribe wound medications, start or change wound vacs or even culture wounds ... you know, real wound care.

Or will ziggy continue to defend the indefensible. I will put money on it that he will defend his fellow quack, no matter how stupid his wound care claim may be.

Because in the end, ziggy is a chiropractor. And almost all chiropractors are full of crap. Not all, I'd say 96% or so.
Aerial View

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#15 Nov 2, 2010
Docziggy,
Don't bother answering the liar's (wisdom's) questions. He's never once answer the 'credential quesion. Plus he just lied about New Mexico's drug formulary and he really lied about the 90 hour course. All lies from a fraud who has NEVER practiced any type of health care and never had a license to do so. And has NO professional degrees.
So, here is the question for the fraud, wisdom, again. Take your time. Run down the list of things you did today then add one more. 1. Woke up. 2. Had breakfast. 3. Lied about chiropractic. 4........(fill in the blank).
Now, can you fill this blank in with the answer to this simple question? DO YOU PRACTICE AS EITHER A CHIROPRACTOR OR A MEDICAL DOCTOR?
See? Not so tough for an honest person to answer. But impossible for a fraud.
Dave

Cicero, NY

#16 Nov 23, 2010
This is why I am going to become a naturopath. They seem to have the best of all worlds. And yes if they are trained chiro's should be allowed to prescribe at least medicine for pain.
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#17 Nov 23, 2010
Ummmm Dave, not sure what "pain" medications you have in mind. NSAIDS, opioids?

Chirooractors are NOT clinically trained in prescribing medications, period. You want to give a chiropractor the right to prescribe an opioid after a 90 hour holiday inn course? really?

I'm thinking that maybe before anyone prescribes any opioids or other significant medications that they should have a couple years of didactic educations in pharmacology and then a couple more years of clinical experience and training in prescribing and administering these medications. It is serious business prescribing potent medications. Reaction, adverse reactions including allergic and anaphylaxis reactions, decrease in BP, and other side effects. And don't forget training in drug interactions.

I would that chiropractors should also get decent clinical training in examining, diagnosing and treating seriously ill patients before anything else.

There should be no short cuts. Though I know chiropractors would like to think otherwise.
Aerial View

AOL

#18 Nov 23, 2010
Wisdom wrote:
Ummmm Dave, not sure what "pain" medications you have in mind. NSAIDS, opioids?
Chirooractors are NOT clinically trained in prescribing medications, period. You want to give a chiropractor the right to prescribe an opioid after a 90 hour holiday inn course? really?
I'm thinking that maybe before anyone prescribes any opioids or other significant medications that they should have a couple years of didactic educations in pharmacology and then a couple more years of clinical experience and training in prescribing and administering these medications. It is serious business prescribing potent medications. Reaction, adverse reactions including allergic and anaphylaxis reactions, decrease in BP, and other side effects. And don't forget training in drug interactions.
I would that chiropractors should also get decent clinical training in examining, diagnosing and treating seriously ill patients before anything else.
There should be no short cuts. Though I know chiropractors would like to think otherwise.
Dave,

This should come as no shock, but wisdom just outright LIED again. And this is one of his favorite lies. And I directly quote wisdom, " You want to give a chiropractor the right to prescribe an opioid after a 90 hour holiday inn course? really?" Lie. And this lie here proves that ALL of his other posts have been lies as well.
Here is proof wisdom just lied. This is what already licensed chiropractors must go through in order to prescribe medications. http://www.nuhs.edu/postgrad/pdfs/MS_ACP_2011...
National College of Chiroractic has a TWO year course of study leading to a Master's degree in advanced clinical training. The link tells you all about the course. Plus (and get this wisdom (the liar) they also get EXTENSIVE clinical experience with SICK patients at HOSPITALS! But what would the liar wisdom know about clinical experience? He has NONE! And THAT'S a fact. Wisdom was also hoping I wouldn't see this post and OUT him on his latest lie. Oh, but I will out him on his lies. Each time.
Conclusion: Wisdom has been lying about everything he's written all along. But then, you already knew that.
Wisdom

Newark, NJ

#19 Nov 24, 2010
Give it a rest mr. quacker. You have been exposed as an idiot.

Now, please tell me the hospitals that life and palmer and sherman and logan chiropractic students train at. Please tell me when and where they learn to prescribe medications.

Oh and don't bother telling us about the very new program they have at national. you really are a lying chiropractor. but we already knew that.

Dumb ass aerial still trying to bs his way to legitimacy.
Aerial View

AOL

#20 Nov 24, 2010
Wisdom wrote:
Give it a rest mr. quacker. You have been exposed as an idiot.
Now, please tell me the hospitals that life and palmer and sherman and logan chiropractic students train at. Please tell me when and where they learn to prescribe medications.
Oh and don't bother telling us about the very new program they have at national. you really are a lying chiropractor. but we already knew that.
Dumb ass aerial still trying to bs his way to legitimacy.
Ok. Yes sir. Anything you say, liar. I will give it a rest. From now on I'll only post when you lie about chiropractic. Oh, here's an opportunity to do just that!

This should come as no shock, but wisdom just outright LIED again. And this is one of his favorite lies. And I directly quote wisdom, " You want to give a chiropractor the right to prescribe an opioid after a 90 hour holiday inn course? really?" Lie. And this lie here proves that ALL of his other posts have been lies as well.
Here is proof wisdom just lied. This is what already licensed chiropractors must go through in order to prescribe medications. http://www.nuhs.edu/postgrad/pdfs/MS_ACP_2011 ...
National College of Chiroractic has a TWO year course of study leading to a Master's degree in advanced clinical training. The link tells you all about the course. Plus (and get this wisdom (the liar) they also get EXTENSIVE clinical experience with SICK patients at HOSPITALS! But what would the liar wisdom know about clinical experience? He has NONE! And THAT'S a fact. Wisdom was also hoping I wouldn't see this post and OUT him on his latest lie. Oh, but I will out him on his lies. Each time.
Conclusion: Wisdom has been lying about everything he's written all along. But then, you already knew that.

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