Chirotalk, A Spamming Non Credible Website. Be Wary and Warned.

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Chirotalk is a non-credible Anti-Chiropractic website ran by Allen Botnick, a non practicing chiropractic graduate from Life University. The website has 25 active members, in which none have shown any credentials in being licensed in the medical field. Most even admit their shortcomings.

The main tactic used is deceiving individuals. The site is constantly being modified to suit the views of Allen Botnick. Any views that portray chiropractic in a positive light are quickly modded or the user is banned.

This begs the question to how reputable the site is. Well, Allen Botnick has been spamming countless other websites and forums to link his website. His attempts of adding his links to Wikipedia have failed because it is not noticed as a reputable website.

You will also notice that many of the topics are created by Allen Botnick, and are constantly being moved and pieced.

In fact you will see many citations that are stringed together and broken apart. This is a tactic where Allen Botnick will assert his own interpretation and again deceive individuals.

The site also promotes harassing individuals by protesting businesses, prank calls, and other childish actions.

The website also often criticizes chiropractic leaders who recently passed away or suffered an illness. The post obituaries and links and remark in unprofessional manner.

Allen Botnick boasts that there are members in which merit credentials, however there is no source of evidence that indicates this. Furthermore there are over 60,000 chiropractic doctors practicing and countless individuals graduating each year. Tell me how 25 active members would even come close to representing anyone speaking out?
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Chirotalk is an anti-chiropractic forum put together by former chiropractors who, angered by their inability to make it as a doctor of chiropractic, have decided it is best to bash the profession and steer all clear of it who might decide to pursue it as a career. I think they secretly are trying to build up some kind of evidence to support their eventual lawsuit against the government or student loan lenders, in an effort to escape the sword of student loans hanging over their heads as are virtually every other chiropractor in the country.

As I understand it, the founder, Dr Allen Botnick, has already tried that and having failed, has put together this forum, Chirotalk, to garner support and bash the profession in anyway they see fit. And that leaves nothing out. They bash it at every turn and with every logical and illogical argument they can muster. From what I can tell, having read their posts for some time now, they are arrogant, self serving, self important, intellectual want-to-be's who continually and almost daily, display their ignorance of literally a plethora of topics both related to and not related to chiropractic.

The "administrators" of the forum, those who in their infinite wisdom oversee the posts as they come in, monitor their content, welcoming any who oppose chiropractic and banning from the forum any who would stand in their way. Understandable since it is an anti-chiropractic forum, but the sheer idiocy of their logic and their continual reference to the ad homonym argument and the fallacy argument can become tiring at best.

For example, anything, literally, anything which is opposed to their point of view is shot down as fallacy. Any retort to their insults for having brought in any logical argument to their position is met with cries of "ad homonym" while they themselves employ it with grace and dexterity. If you like reading ignorance in action I would invite anyone to monitor the forum as I have...

…it goes on
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Chirotalk is also listed as a reliable source of information on the skeptic site ebm-first.com

http://www.ebm-first.com/chiropractic.html
Chirotalk Scam

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Oh please give me a credible site with a neural view.
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Glad you all are reading "chirotalk". the world's number one skeptical chiropractic website.

The chiropractor's worst nightmare.
Chirotalk Scam

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Wisdom wrote:
Glad you all are reading "chirotalk". the world's number one skeptical chiropractic website.
The chiropractor's worst nightmare.
Well I wouldn't say everyone is reading it there are only 25 or active members hehe.

I would not call a entertaining joke of a site a nightmare Wisdom.

Thank you Wisdom for denouncing your former pal Allen Botnick as a deceiving scoundrel with no clinical experience or credentials. Allen Botnick readily announces that he lacks proper education, and it is readily apparent.
Chirotalk Scam

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Washington lets no forget who "snuf" is. It's Allen Botnick the leader of chirotalk. Seems he is looking to ramp up the non-existent interest in his site.

It is funny how after "Shemburg" posted links to his Youtube channel it was instantly deleted and Snuff aka Botnick caught wind of this forum and started posting.

Lets remind everyone that Allen Botnick has been supporting a Anti Smoking cause to prevent cancer. Needless to say Botnick's Youtube channel contained over 70 Favorited Smoking Fetish Videos. Allen Botnick quickly replied claiming that what he does on his own time is his business.

Well he want to be a public figure yet posts public profiles that contradict his intentions such as supporting Anti-Smoking . Bizzare
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Dec 23, 2012
 
Well, after years of presenting misinformation and contradictions, karma comes back around, and it is a bitch.

Botnick calls every practicing chiropractor a scammer and states that anyone who, as a DC, has taken money from patients is a thief and a 'con man'
But, he has recently been petitioning his site members and sending out emails to anyone who has visited/registered at his site.

Why?

He's begging for money. Literally singing his own praises and begging. He claims he needs support as he is not working (that made me laugh) and is suffering from an unknown and unidentifiable disease.

Not only that, but when his story is challenged in his own forums, from his own members, it changes. Its been an unknown neurological disease, then an infection brought about from a hypodermic, then Lyme's Disease, then...
Hilarious is right

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Dec 23, 2012
 
Hilarious wrote:
Well, after years of presenting misinformation and contradictions, karma comes back around, and it is a bitch.
Botnick calls every practicing chiropractor a scammer and states that anyone who, as a DC, has taken money from patients is a thief and a 'con man'
But, he has recently been petitioning his site members and sending out emails to anyone who has visited/registered at his site.
Why?
He's begging for money. Literally singing his own praises and begging. He claims he needs support as he is not working (that made me laugh) and is suffering from an unknown and unidentifiable disease.
Not only that, but when his story is challenged in his own forums, from his own members, it changes. Its been an unknown neurological disease, then an infection brought about from a hypodermic, then Lyme's Disease, then...
Yeah, I saw that same pathetic begging for money--no accountability or reason whatsoever. Sums up chirotalk in a nutshell--it's a propaganda laden site which is cholk-full of losers who blame others for their failings. "wisdom" lives at chirotalk! he he he Oh, and notice wisdom has been awfully quiet about "AL's" begging. Oh, and notice you never see 'wisdom' and "AL" at the same place at the same time. Speaks volumes.
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I see you chiropractors are now mocking a "disabled" man, former top graduate chiropractor Botnik. How very "compassionate" of you quacks.

Your mocking has nothing to do with the overwhelming amount of chiropractic fraud that his website has exposed.

Glad you clowns are reading "chirotalk", the world's number one skeptical chiropractic website. More than 4000 members and climbing. Most are graduates of chiropractic schools. Also MDs, PTs, RNs, DOs, and an orthotist.
Hilarious is right

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Wisdom wrote:
I see you chiropractors are now mocking a "disabled" man, former top graduate chiropractor Botnik. How very "compassionate" of you quacks.
Your mocking has nothing to do with the overwhelming amount of chiropractic fraud that his website has exposed.
Glad you clowns are reading "chirotalk", the world's number one skeptical chiropractic website. More than 4000 members and climbing. Most are graduates of chiropractic schools. Also MDs, PTs, RNs, DOs, and an orthotist.
Fact: chirotalk is a cult site
Fact: "Al" is pathetic for begging. Hey, I got it, why don't all failures start begging like Al.
I think wisdom IS AL, and that's why he came to Al's 'rescue'.
Chirotalk has zero MD's posting there. Zero DO's posting there. And maybe 5 chiropractors--same ones, different handles. Worthleess site.
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"I think wisdom IS AL"

Ha ha That's because you're a paranoid idiot.

Glad you and your chiropractic colleagues are reading "chirotalk".
wisdom is a liar

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Wisdom wrote:
"I think wisdom IS AL"
Ha ha That's because you're a paranoid idiot.
Glad you and your chiropractic colleagues are reading "chirotalk".
he he he Yeah, go back to chirotalk and keep puckering up to kiss the founder's asss like you always do. And while you're there, maybe you can shamelessly beg for money too. Although giving money to a cult just may be a tax deduction.
wisdom is a liar

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Wisdom wrote:
I see you chiropractors are now mocking a "disabled" man, former top graduate chiropractor Botnik. How very "compassionate" of you quacks.
Your mocking has nothing to do with the overwhelming amount of chiropractic fraud that his website has exposed.
Glad you clowns are reading "chirotalk", the world's number one skeptical chiropractic website. More than 4000 members and climbing. Most are graduates of chiropractic schools. Also MDs, PTs, RNs, DOs, and an orthotist.
wisdom 'the liar' said, "mocking a disabled man--how compassionate of you quacks." This, coming from a debraved creep, wisdom, who said this about the Haitian earthquake victims after dozens of Christian chiropractors donated their time, money, and services to the victims--wisdom said this about the earthquate victims, "I wish them continued suffering." Yeah, real compassionate.
Hey creep, go back to slurping Al's asss. Do you pucker up before planting a juicy one on Al's behind?
So "Al's" disabled and has to shamelessly beg for money? Hey, just my opinion, but if he's strong enough to edit his chiropractic propaganda 16 hours a day, then he's strong enough to at least work from home--doing some of business rather than begging for money on the front page of his website. Shameful. Pathetic. Same class as the able-bodied welfare rats who bleed the system dry because they think they're entitled or discriminated against. Same low class.
And who ends of paying for it? People like me who work hard and are in the workforce making an honest living.
And what's this big wisdom lie about 4000 members and climbing? he he he he Yeah. Try less than 10 members posting under dozens of victitious names--like wisdomm does here. Wisdom posts here under no less than 50 different names--his favorite is "callaghan."
Oh, sorry. Did I just expose wisdom the liar and fraud? Oooooooooops.
Chirotalk Rules

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Chiropractic is a joke. $150,000 for an absolutely worthless degree. The schools should be prosecuted for fraud. I applaud Chirotalk for exposing the truth.
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Chirotalk Rules wrote:
Chiropractic is a joke.$150,000 for an absolutely worthless degree. The schools should be prosecuted for fraud. I applaud Chirotalk for exposing the truth.
Sound like yet another loser.
Let's see here. According to law school and government statistics, over a third of all lawyers who graduated law school in the past five years are not employed as lawyers. Gosh, that must mean law school is a joke--$200,000 for an absolutely worthless degree.
See how stupid that sounds?
I suppose if you're a failure in your chosen profession, it must, yes, it MUST be someone else's fault why you failed. Can't be you. No sir. There are tons of highly successful chiropractors--man, something must be wrong here. How can there be so many successful chiropractors and "Rules" isn't one of them? How can that be? he he he he Uh, maybe "rules" is an idiot? Could that be? ha ha ha
Losers like "rules" are so very, very hysterical. Thanks for the laugh, loser. I'm glad you're not stink'n up my profession anymore.
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Everyone read the post above carefully. This is the typical angry rant of a chiropractor. He has the same tired old excuse that anyone that exposes his so called profession as the scam that it is, is someone who failed in practice. In reality, he can't do much more than a massage therapist. He tries to sell so called treatment plans that bilk consumers out of money for long drawn out unnecessary office visits over the next several months or even years. He typically has the educational equivalent of two years in a junior college before going to chiropractic school. A school which by the way has no entrance requirements like a four year degree or a good LSAT or MCAT score. When exposed he likes to call names and rant like a child.
He also likes to throw out statistics that he thinks will validate his claim. Above he makes a claim that law school costs $200K, and many lawyers don't go on to practice for long. What he can't understand is that there are many opportunities with a law degree. He doesn't know that many authors, politicians, professors, and business people have a law degree. Law school credits transfer to any other major university. Chiropractic school credits don't. There are also many non private state law schools that are around $2500 a semester.
wisdom is callahan

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Another fraud exposed wrote:
Everyone read the post above carefully. This is the typical angry rant of a chiropractor. He has the same tired old excuse that anyone that exposes his so called profession as the scam that it is, is someone who failed in practice. In reality, he can't do much more than a massage therapist. He tries to sell so called treatment plans that bilk consumers out of money for long drawn out unnecessary office visits over the next several months or even years. He typically has the educational equivalent of two years in a junior college before going to chiropractic school. A school which by the way has no entrance requirements like a four year degree or a good LSAT or MCAT score. When exposed he likes to call names and rant like a child.
He also likes to throw out statistics that he thinks will validate his claim. Above he makes a claim that law school costs $200K, and many lawyers don't go on to practice for long. What he can't understand is that there are many opportunities with a law degree. He doesn't know that many authors, politicians, professors, and business people have a law degree. Law school credits transfer to any other major university. Chiropractic school credits don't. There are also many non private state law schools that are around $2500 a semester.
Wow! Such anger from "Another Faud." He needs to see a shrink, but quick.
Too many lies from 'another' to mention. Law school credits may, yes MAY transfer to another law school but that's it. Chiropractic credits can transfer to another chiropractic college.
Also, what this loser,'another' is saying is people are 100 employable after law school. Oh, so if that lawyer finds a job bagging groceries, he's using his law degree. See how stupid that sounds? That's 'another's' logic.
Truth be told, lawyers have a massive student loan default rate--about half. Look at ANY state's bar association of disciplined lawyers--many disciplined for student loan defaults. So again,'another' just lied--and big time. Then again, angry people always lie--like 'another'.
In any case,'another' doesn't know anything about chirorpactic or the practice of chiropractic. Nothing at all. He's irrelevant-a no-nothing--less important than yesterday's news. I don't know what 'another' does for a living, but I can surmise he isn't good at it. He has a failure's attitude ("their fault, not mine") and he wants everyone around him to fail as well.
I just know one thing: I have a huge cash practice and I couldn't be happier. I get to help tons of patients each year and make a fabulous living do so. And--get this, I don't accept dime one of ANY third party payer--nothing. No Medicare, no work-comp, no major medical, no auto insurance. Zippo. Just cash. I couldn't be happier being a chiropractor. It is the BEST profession EVER!
Ciao, baby!!
Wisdom

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Indeed, he is a very angry chiropractor. And he has NO clue. Sad, very sad.
Chiropractic Is Terrific

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Another fraud exposed wrote:
Everyone read the post above carefully. This is the typical angry rant of a chiropractor. He has the same tired old excuse that anyone that exposes his so called profession as the scam that it is, is someone who failed in practice. In reality, he can't do much more than a massage therapist. He tries to sell so called treatment plans that bilk consumers out of money for long drawn out unnecessary office visits over the next several months or even years. He typically has the educational equivalent of two years in a junior college before going to chiropractic school. A school which by the way has no entrance requirements like a four year degree or a good LSAT or MCAT score. When exposed he likes to call names and rant like a child.
He also likes to throw out statistics that he thinks will validate his claim. Above he makes a claim that law school costs $200K, and many lawyers don't go on to practice for long. What he can't understand is that there are many opportunities with a law degree. He doesn't know that many authors, politicians, professors, and business people have a law degree. Law school credits transfer to any other major university. Chiropractic school credits don't. There are also many non private state law schools that are around $2500 a semester.
Like I was saying.....
Wow! Such anger from "Another Faud." He needs to see a shrink, but quick.
Too many lies from 'another' to mention. Law school credits may, yes MAY transfer to another law school but that's it. Chiropractic credits can transfer to another chiropractic college.
Also, what this loser,'another' is saying is people are 100 employable after law school. Oh, so if that lawyer finds a job bagging groceries, he's using his law degree. See how stupid that sounds? That's 'another's' logic.
Truth be told, lawyers have a massive student loan default rate--about half. Look at ANY state's bar association of disciplined lawyers--many disciplined for student loan defaults. So again,'another' just lied--and big time. Then again, angry people always lie--like 'another'.
In any case,'another' doesn't know anything about chirorpactic or the practice of chiropractic. Nothing at all. He's irrelevant-a no-nothing--less important than yesterday's news. I don't know what 'another' does for a living, but I can surmise he isn't good at it. He has a failure's attitude ("their fault, not mine") and he wants everyone around him to fail as well.
I just know one thing: I have a huge cash practice and I couldn't be happier. I get to help tons of patients each year and make a fabulous living do so. And--get this, I don't accept dime one of ANY third party payer--nothing. No Medicare, no work-comp, no major medical, no auto insurance. Zippo. Just cash. I couldn't be happier being a chiropractor. It is the BEST profession EVER!
Ciao, baby!!

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