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Steven Barrett and quachwatch organization humiliated in court AGAIN!!

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Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#1 Oct 14, 2007
Once again FORMER Dr Steven Barrett has humiliated himself and lost yet again another court decision..this is his THIRD DEFEAT in 2007. In Amsterdam, Pennsylvania and the Supreme Court of California FAKE Dr. Barrett has been found GUILTY!!! Yet some on this board(i.e. Lawman ,Jim,George) use him and his propaganda website as "evidence" Chiropractic is false,lacks scientific data,and they claim Chiropractors are frauds,scammers,sucker,etc.etc ....whose the real fraud and "SUCKERS"???
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#2 Oct 14, 2007
Recent rulings in Amsterdam, Pennsylvania and the Supreme Court of California are heavy blows to the Quackwatch anti-chiropractic and anti-alternative medicine organizations.

After years of being labeled a"quack," and defamed and ridiculed professionally, Dr. Maria Sickesz won a great victory in Amsterdam, Holland early June 2007.

The Netherlands Appeals Court ordered the "Vereniging tegen de Kwalzalverij" (Association Against Quackery, which is the Dutch version of the so- called "Quackbusters" ) to cease and desist from using the demeaning, subjective and pejorative term "quack." This group is linked extensively on their website with the American "quackwatch" headed by Stephen Barrett, who also has suffered several legal defeats recently.

The Justices recognized that this group's affinity for giving demeaning labels to doctors with whose practices they disagreed was a way of shutting down emerging science. They were also ordered to publish a public retraction in two widely circulated newspapers. It has been estimated this will cost them around thirty thousand euros (~US$40,350) and has been written that this will bankrupt this highly controversial association whose work is attempting to destroy alternative practioners in Holland.

Dr. Sickesz developed a kind of healing called orthomanual therapy which integrates chiropractic practices. For several decades the quackbuster organizations around the world have waged legal and public relations wars against chiropractors and other non traditional practitioners, demonizing them with their biased campaigns.

In June, for the second time, Barrett lost a case in a Pennsylvania Appeals Court against a local and respected chiropractor in his hometown of Allentown, PA.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2844...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#3 Oct 14, 2007
Because of losing Barrett Vs Rosenthal, Barrett and Polevoy have been required to put up bonds of over $433,000 for Ilena Rosenthal's attorneys fees in this classic Industry Vs Activist SLAPP suit.
http://www.foundationforhealthchoice.com/barr...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#4 Oct 14, 2007
Commissioned by the New Zealand Government in 1978, The New Zealand Report developed into the most comprehensive and detailed independent examination, at that time, of chiropractic ever undertaken in any country.The Commission interviewed the American Medical Association, American Chiropractic Association, Council on Chiropractic Education, Foundation for Chiropractic Education and Research, Blue Cross & Blue Shield, and various individuals...IT CONCLUDED
13. We have considered material published over Barrett's name. The chapter on chiropractic in The Health Robbers (entitled "The Spine Salesmen") was written by him. It is plainly propaganda. What we have seen of the rest of his writings on chiropractic has the same tone. Nothing he has written on chiropractic that we have considered can be relied on as balanced.
18. It is clear that the enthusiasm of the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud(AKA QUACKWATCH) is greater than its respect for accuracy, at least in regards to facts concerning chiropractic. We are not prepared to place any reliance on material emanating from the Lehigh Valley Committee.
http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/New_Zealand_Report...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#5 Oct 14, 2007
Dr. Stephen Barrett of Quackwatch Exposed In Court Cases.
PROVEN in a court of law to be a LYING FRAUD...yet some on this board use him as their source of "EVIDENCE"

At trial, under a heated cross-examination by Negrete, Barrett conceded that he was not a Medical Board Certified psychiatrist because he had failed the certification exam.

This was a major revelation since Barrett had provided supposed expert testimony as a psychiatrist and had testified in numerous court cases. Barrett also had said that he was a legal expert even though he had no formal legal training.

The most damning testimony before the jury, under the intense cross-examination by Negrete, was that Barrett had filed similar defamation lawsuits against almost 40 people across the country within the past few years and had not won one single one at trial.

During the course of his examination, Barrett also had to concede his ties to the AMA, Federal Trade Commission (FTC) and Food & Drug Administration (FDA). http://www.canlyme.com/quackwatch.html
jim

AOL

#6 Oct 14, 2007
I think sueing someone for calling them a "Quackpot" is a bit over the top. I've been called worse myself. HAHAHA I think free speach will do the trick. No lawsuits needed. I am sorry to hear Dr. Barrett is not perfect however. There are probably a lot of SUCKERS who were helped to find their way back home by Dr. Barrett.
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#7 Oct 14, 2007
Jim thats not the point...of course we all make mistakes but Steven Barrett is a lying weasel that is making claims about the Chiropractic profession and Losing court cases because of his lies and deceit. He is in charge of both Quackbusters.org and chirobase.org and uses false claims with his propaganda websites. The public is catching on and so too is the legal system. Its a good thing REAL LAWMAN are out there to protect the public from liars such as Barrett. You and the lawman use Steven Barrett and chirobase.org as your PRIMARY source of "scientific evidence" to prove your Anti-chiropractic points on the profession. You continue to HUMILIATE yourself with your continued support of his deceit. Dr T, Dr D, NUCCA , as well as myself post research from peer-reviewed science and medical journals and scientific data on Chiropractic and you and the lawman continually counter by posting OPINIONS from these two sites as a means to disprove our research. Steven Barrett has been found GUILTY in SEVERAL courts of law to be a lying , deceitfully,hate-filled QUACK!! THATS the point of this thread. Try countering our research with TRUE scientific data/research/facts NOT OPINIONS from a court-proven lying QUACK so we all can begin a meaningful debate. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me but stay true and AWAY from liars and the websites they run!!
In the paradox of "quackbusting," the quackbusters say they're protecting public health, but in fact, they're abandoning the public and have no interest in or ability to produce benefits for the people they "CLAIM" to be protecting. The "quackbusters" say they're serving the public, but the truth is they're grossly disserving patients.
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#8 Oct 14, 2007
Stephen Barrett MD, who the Pennsylvania licensing board officially classifies as "Not in Good Standing," operates the dubious website " quackwatch.com " out of his basement in Allentown, Pennsylvania.Keep in mind that Barrett, although claiming to be a retired Psychiatrist, was never able to become "Board Certified." He failed his test. Also, Barrett gave up his MD license in 1993. His employment record shows he NEVER was able to hold a full-time job - and his claim to "Psychiatric fame" was his part-time (4 to 8 hours a week) employment at a Pennsylvania Mental Hospital - from 1978 through 1993. From 1976 through 1978 he COULD NOT GET a paying job.When the self-named "Quackbusters" stumbled around to find a derisive name to call their victims, they picked the word "Quack," without ever bothering to discover it's origins. Its original meaning, from Europe, comes from the term "quacksalver" which was used to describe Dentists who were dumb enough to use mercury (a poison) as fillings for teeth. Look at propagandist, and "Quackbuster" king-pin, Stephen Barrett's website ( quackwatch.com ), and you'll find that HE IS IN FAVOR of mercury (amalgam) tooth fillings. Barrett, is not known to do intelligent research.YET he is the "PRIMARY" source of "scientific research" for JIM and the lawman...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#9 Oct 14, 2007
Quackbuster Stephen Barrett:
"Not an Expert," Declares Judge!
The judge concluded:
-As for his credential as an expert on FDA regulation of homeopathic drugs, the Court finds that Dr. Barrett lacks sufficient qualifications in this area.
-Dr. Barrett's purported legal and regulatory knowledge is not apparent.
-Barrett who claims to be backed by the FDA, FTC, DHHS, NCI, HIH, AMA, and ADA showed up with one witness and his own lame testimony. Barrett claimed to have hundreds of studies, but couldn't produce one.
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#10 Oct 14, 2007
Quackbusters CRUSHED by California Supreme Court...
I don't know how the "quackbusters" can even come out in public any more. Their constant humiliation in the US Court system has got to be incredibly embarrassing. I don't know how they can withstand the solid stream of laughter from the general public.

It's not just the losses in Court (and they are legion), it's how badly they lose, and the criticism they draw on themselves by the participants in the Court system. They just don't seem to learn.

Yesterday, November 20th, 2006, the California Supreme Court voted unanimously (all seven Justices) to slap down the latest "quackbuster" attempt to use, and abuse, the US Court system to silence their critics. The case, originally known as Barrett v. Clark, then for the appeals process renamed Barrett v. Rosenthal, began over five years ago when three individuals decided to sue "a room full of people." http://www.bolenreport.net/feature_articles/f...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#11 Oct 14, 2007
Some high lites of the the Founder of Chirobase the "Scientific Source" DISproving Chiropractic for Jim and lawman...

The Psychiatric profession rejected Barrett years ago, for Barrett could NOT pass the examinations necessary to become "Board Certified."

Barrett, we know, was forced to give up his medical license in Pennsylvania in 1993 when his "part-time" employment at the State Mental Hospital was terminated, and he had so few (nine) private patients during his last five years of practice, that he couldn't afford the Malpractice Insurance premiums Pennsylvania requires.

Three California Judges, in a PUBLISHED Appeals Court decision, took a HARD look at Barrett's activities, and declared him "biased, and unworthy of credibility."

Barrett, we know, along with his website, is currently named, among other things, in a racketeering (RICO) case in Federal Court in Colorado.

He's also being sued for his nefarious activities in Ontario, Canada

Barrett, in the Canadian case, has formally admitted, according to Canadian law, to a number of situations put to him by the Plaintiff, including:

"The sole purpose of the activities of Barrett & Baratz are to discredit and cause damage and harm to health care practitioners, businesses that make alternative health therapies or products available, and advocates of non-allopathic therapies and health freedom."

"Barrett has interfered with the civil rights of numerous Americans, in his efforts to have his critics silenced."

"Barrett has strategically orchestrated the filing of legal actions in improper jurisdictions for the purpose of frustrating the victims of such lawsuits and increasing his victims costs."

"Barrett failed the exams he was required to pass to become a Board Certified Medical Doctor."

http://www.quackpotwatch.org/quackpots/quackp...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#12 Oct 14, 2007
Whose the REAL QUACK...HAAHAHAAA....
Courts Seize "Quackbuster" Bank Accounts, Property...

Thursday, February 22nd, 2007

A few days ago, Christopher Grell, one of the Plaintiffs, and the attorney for the Plaintiffs Stephen Barrett and Terry Polevoy , filed an emergency Ex Parte Motion with the Alameda, California Trial Court in the Barrett v. Clark (Rosenthal) case asking for a Temporary Restraining Order preventing Defendant Rosenthal from collecting attorney fees awarded to Rosenthal by the Courts. The Court denied the Motion, and "collection" has begun in earnest.
http://www.bolenreport.net/feature_articles/f...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#13 Oct 14, 2007
Quackbusters "Horse-Whipped" by Missouri Supreme Court...
The self-styled National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF), the "quackbuster's" flagship, has sunk - it is financially insolvent, legally defunct, and its members owe the homeopathic world over $100,000 in legal fees it can't pay. The NCAHF president, Bobbie Baratz, has been ripped apart in the Courtroom, and his "testifying" income has been curtailed.
http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/ho...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#14 Oct 14, 2007
Homeopaths Now "Own" the Quackbusters...

Even better, was the wording in the three Judge Appeals Court decision which said that, among a laundry list of criticisms, Barrett and Sampson were "biased, and unworthy of credibility..."

http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/ho...
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#15 Oct 14, 2007
Quackpot Barrett Crushed in Federal Court - Again...

Barrett had to allegedly "retire" from the medical profession, giving up his license in 1993, when he was in his mid-50's. He admits that he didn't have enough medical practice income in 1993 to even pay the required malpractice insurance premiums. Barrett, who claims to be a retired Psychiatrist, was forced to admit in court documents (forced by Negrete) that he only had nine patients all year, each year, for several years, before he supposedly "retired." Psychiatrists get their patients from referrals from other MDs. Doctors in the LeHigh Valley of Pennsylvania just weren't sending him any business. Anybody wonder why?

And now Barrett is failing as a "quackbuster."

By the way - Barrett lost in an anti-SLAPP motion, which means he gets to pay Negrete, and Clark's, attorney fees...

http://www.quackpotwatch.org/opinionpieces/qu...

Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#16 Oct 14, 2007
California Appeals Court BLUDGEONS Quackbusters...

April 23, 2003



A California Appeals Court, yesterday, April 22, 2003, bludgeoned the National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF), and their whole argument about what constitutes good and bad health care. The quackbuster's operating theme, the argument they use against alternative proponents, came under a major American Court's scrutiny. The Court, basically, in their decision, said the the quackbuster's arguments were hogwash, and they had no business meddling in California's system.

The Court also declared that top quackbusters Stephen Barrett ( quackwatch.com ), and Wallace Sampson MD (Scientific Review of Alternative and Aberrant Medicine) "were found to be biased and unworthy of credibility."

The quackbusters lost in a PUBLISHED case. The quackbuster premise failed. Not some of it, not most of it - but all of it. The "quackbuster" measuring stick for how to evaluate health care has been completely discredited. Official quackbuster credibility is now ZERO.
Dr E

Phenix City, AL

#17 Oct 14, 2007
The quackbuster's flagship, the self-proclaimed National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF) decided, one day, to sue about 43 "Alternative Medicine proponents" in California, basically claiming that all of them were engaging in health fraud "because what they were doing wasn't scientifically proven."

Their argument was that "the defendant has to PROVE their products work, or it's health fraud."

California was the wrong place for them to try this stunt. Here, health freedom bills tend to pass through the legislature UNANIMOUSLY. We like to be healthy. It's our life style.

The very first case that came to trial was called NCAHF vs, King Bio (a manufacturer of about 50 homeopathic products). The NCAHF lost badly. Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Haley Fromholz wrote a long decision, virtually battering the quackbusters for wasting the court's time with their silly case. The quackbusters had accused King Bio of false advertising. At issue was the credibility of the NCAHF's witnesses, Stephen Barrett, and Wallace Sampson MD. The Judge thrashed their arguments. You can read the Judge's words in this original case decision by clicking here. You can find out who King Bio is by going to their website www.kingbio.com

The NCAHF appealed. And, boy did it cost them. You need to read the decision. It is written in plain language, not legalese, and is clearly understandable. Read the footnotes also. Pass this around to anyone under attack by the quackbusters. Their attorneys will love this precedent setting case.

To me one of the more important statements is the last footnote in the Appeal Court's decision, for it attacks the whole quackbuster operation It says, "The trial court concluded NCAHF failed to prove a false or misleading statement. King Bio’s expert testified the products were safe and effective. The products were included in the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia and complied with FDA guidelines. NCAHF presented no evidence that King Bio’s products were not safe and effective, relying instead on a general attack on homeopathy, made by witnesses who had no knowledge of, or experience with, King Bio’s products, and who were found to be biased and unworthy of credibility."

But more occurred. "At trial, NCAHF proceeded on the theory that there is no scientific basis for the advertised efficacy of King Bio’s products. NCAHF performed no tests to determine the efficacy of King Bio’s products and presented no anecdotal evidence. NCAHF instead argued that King Bio’s products were drugs, and the scientific community required representations regarding the efficacy of drugs to be supported by acceptable scientific evidence. NCAHF asserted that the burden of proof should be shifted to King Bio to prove its products’ efficacy. On appeal, NCAHF acknowledges that, under current California law, a false advertising plaintiff bears the burden of proving the defendant’s advertising claim is false or misleading. NCAHF contends, however, that we should shift the burden of proof to the defendant to facilitate the campaign against health fraud. NCAHF argues that federal law shifts the burden to the defendant in false advertising actions."
In response to the NCAHF's demands, the Court said: "We conclude there is no basis in California law to shift the burden of proof to a defendant in a representative false advertising and unlawful competition action. We conclude further that the Legislature has indicated an intent to place the burden of proof on the plaintiff in such cases. Finally, we conclude federal authority is not apposite."
jim

AOL

#18 Oct 14, 2007
Exactly what was Dr. Barrett CONVICTED of? It looks to me like he sued everyone in sight for calling him names. I think actually sueing chiropractors for just being chiropractors was not realistic. It seems like the courts didn't think so either. I don't think the judge ever said whether or not he thinks chiropractic is fake or not. My guess is he knows its fake.
jim

AOL

#19 Oct 14, 2007
Sounds like he might have overstated his credentials a little. Where have I seen that sort of thing before? HAHAHA
jim

AOL

#20 Oct 14, 2007
Dr. E, I was just wondering, do you think professional wrestling is real? How can you tell?

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