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Teachers Disciplined For Acupuncture In Class | Ohio News Network (ONN)

There are 23 comments on the 10TV WBNS story from Nov 9, 2010, titled Teachers Disciplined For Acupuncture In Class | Ohio News Network (ONN). In it, 10TV WBNS reports that:

Two teachers in northeast Ohio are on paid leave after school officials said they performed acupuncture on students without their parents' permission.

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Caniglietti

Delaware, OH

#1 Nov 9, 2010
There have to be more important issues to address than this, surely...
Stormy

Dayton, OH

#2 Nov 9, 2010
No wonder kids can barely do math or spell. We have stupid people teaching kids. How dumb can they get? 1. it is a huge health risk 2. you just DON'T do things like this to kids / under age children without parental consent & supervision. Jeez, I hope they get fired. ANYONE that does invasive actions towards a child should no longer be able to work with or be in charge of kids. It is intimidating to a child - they are afraid to say no to the the teacher afraid they will be failed. Then there is peer pressure, since kids are afraid to say no none of them say no.
I think the parents should sue the teachers myself. If it was my kids I would push for charges to be filed & them getting fired! There are a lot of teachers out there that would have much more respect for the students & the rules that I am sure would be willing to take their position. Teachers gripe about not getting paid enough. Are they too stupid to realize that they make it hard for the school system to pay them more? Do they realize the cost of insurance to protect the schools from stupidity like this? 1d10t5!!!
sjm

Westerville, OH

#3 Nov 9, 2010
Kids can't have Tylenol or Midol without a fricking prescription, Congressional Approval, and a note from God Himself anymore... but teachers are OK to stuck needles in their arms?

Houston, we have a PROBLEM.
REDWHTNBLU

Upper Sandusky, OH

#5 Nov 9, 2010
AND THE MUSIC GOES ROUND AND ROUND..GOOD GOD, WHATS NEXT.
Shaz

United States

#6 Nov 9, 2010
I honestly don't think I'd be freaking out so badly unless my kids were actually hurt by it. The needles were clean, the kids were okay with it, whatever. It IS odd, and I doubt my daughters would've done it at all since they hate needles, but it seems instructive in a way. Like, hey, you can do this, and it doesn't hurt, and you don't have to be afraid of needles.

But of course since this is America, the teachers will be sued and fired for coming up with creative ways to teach. This seems like the parents just pushing their overreactions and fear onto their kids, who will in turn learn from this behavior and eventually adopt it.
Wisconsin Acupuncturist

Milford, MA

#7 Nov 9, 2010
Acupuncture is to be performed by LICENSED or CERTIFIED practitioner. I'd like to know where these teachers got the needles?!!! You don't just buy needles at the local store...they are controlled medical devices, only to be purchased with proof of license. Not to mention the bloodborne pathogen issue and disposing properly of the needles. There is also clean needle technique. That's why acupuncturists pay liability insurance because needles are not toys. Not a good situation. I demonstrate acupuncture in a local high school during a health class each semester on teachers, not on the minors.
Stormer

Corona, CA

#8 Nov 9, 2010
I agree with Stormy. How dare those teachers find good and creative ways to educate our children? That's right every teacher that inspire our kids intelligence and have then doing hands on experiments in miserable professions like health care should be fire and sued immediately.

When is this gonna stop? What if they turn out to be doctors??? If those kids keep getting this kind of education, who will work at Wallmart and Mcdonalds?

That's it we're doomed with teachers like that!
Cynthia

Mesa, AZ

#9 Nov 9, 2010
Much ado about nothing. Perhaps the teachers didn't use mature judgement, but if parents were as concerned about what their children were doing, watching and playing when not in school as they are about what happens in school their children would be alot safer. Parents aren't attending parent/teacher conferences, verifying grades and attendance, but they are sure fast to complain about a teacher who raises their voice, et al.
Brandy

Jacksonville, FL

#10 Nov 9, 2010
Oh no! Teachers were.....TEACHING???!!!! What next? Teachers going above and beyond what was EXPECTED? Not possible. Hang, tar and feather them all. Back in the day teachers hit the kids, and it was ok... but apparently that was just too much, now you just have to look at kids the wrong way for sh1t to hit the fan. When I went to school you had to have a permission slip to SKIP out on dissecting a frog. Now you have to have a permission slip to eat lunch. Get over it... Your kids aren't incapable of making decisions .. YOU ARE OVERBEARING PARENTS. Granted teachers shouldn't be beating kids at will, but should you as parents, hold back your child's education at will?
LyricalBallad

Burbank, CA

#11 Nov 9, 2010
You realize there are pressure points all over the body and acupuncturists are trained & licensed to know where these are as well as types of needles to use? They're not any ol' needles that you can just buy anywhere. If a needle is placed in the wrong place, paralysis of some sort can occur. It is fortunate that no kid was harmed but not having knowledge of acupuncture and thinking it's okay to "teach kids new things" this way is neither very intelligent nor safe...
Get over it

Cleveland, OH

#12 Nov 9, 2010
I went through this 5 years ago. It was not a big deal, the needles are NOT even big, and barely even do anything. The principle was there too. The teacher is a certified accu-puncture therapist..... Get over it! These teachers are some of the best Parma City Schools has...... What a waste of time.

“No respect.”

Since: Aug 10

United States

#13 Nov 9, 2010
Much of this story depends upon the actual knowledge and training of the teachers involved. If they do not have formal training, and a license in accupuncture, then it is rather improper for them to be sticking needles in their students.

If they are licensed, then it would serve common sense for them to at least inform the parents of what they are doing in their classroom. They should realize some might not be in favor of such a hands-on experiment, and should make an attempt to ensure they have covered their bases and their butts.
Drydoc

Kansas City, MO

#14 Nov 9, 2010
Shaz, you are stupid, admit it! Stormer, stay in school, or go back, trust me, you need it! Brandy, easy on all that punctuation, you'll use it all up and won't have it when you really need it!
I do not want anyone, unlicensed, sticking a needle in my child. You say they are "teaching them that needles don't hurt", BS, they do! Then, my child can practice on the baby, or the cat or your kid.... If you are a teacher, teach your subject. If your grade school offers Accupuncture, send your kid, mine won't attend. And, if the child refused the needles, what was the punishment? Teachers should teach, not practice...anything!
sjm

Pickerington, OH

#15 Nov 9, 2010
Cynthia wrote:
Much ado about nothing. Perhaps the teachers didn't use mature judgement, but if parents were as concerned about what their children were doing, watching and playing when not in school as they are about what happens in school their children would be alot safer. Parents aren't attending parent/teacher conferences, verifying grades and attendance, but they are sure fast to complain about a teacher who raises their voice, et al.
No, much ado about teachers putting needles into kids arms. If you are not trained in acupuncture you can do muscular and nerve damage. I guess it's all fun and games until Jimmy loses the use of his left arm, right?
Duh

Kenton, OH

#16 Nov 10, 2010
Sure, hey why require the teachers to get parental consent for them to stick needles in their kids? After all, if the teacher or other school personnel decides that a girl should get an abortion they can cart her off to the abortion center without notifying the parents. Nothing to see here...move along.
GrammaX3

Tallahassee, FL

#17 Nov 10, 2010
Stormer wrote:
I agree with Stormy. How dare those teachers find good and creative ways to educate our children? That's right every teacher that inspire our kids intelligence and have then doing hands on experiments in miserable professions like health care should be fire and sued immediately.
When is this gonna stop? What if they turn out to be doctors??? If those kids keep getting this kind of education, who will work at Wallmart and Mcdonalds?
That's it we're doomed with teachers like that!
What if they learn not to fear needles and become drug addicts? The teachers are really not being punished since they are on "paid leave" which is more like a vacation. I would not want my granddaughters in their class.
Stormy

Dayton, OH

#18 Nov 10, 2010
The teachers knew ahead of time what they would be teaching & how. They should have let the parents know & got a consent form from them. Remember the teacher that burnt student(s) with a cross? That is why informing the parents & getting consent forms are so important!
The main danger is if kids learn a fraction of this technique (I am sure you don't become licensed in a day or so) & then think they can use it on other kids who is experiencing pain with needles that are not safe it is dangerous. Had they taught by using adults they would have learned the same leason.
What if someone in the class has hepatitis b or is hiv positive? Kids don't consider these things & would not think of the safe, hygenic precautions that need to be taken.
It is an awesome lesson for the kids, just very poorly executed!
sperry

Columbus, OH

#19 Nov 10, 2010
I'd like to know more about this complaining parent and what their child said to them. I worry that this will create limits on teachers creativity and hands-on lessons about other cultures. I understand using needles in a classroom without permission was a poor choice, but I hope that the parent was only concerned about safety and was not opposed to their child learning about the practice of medicine in other cultures.
former student

Cleveland, OH

#20 Nov 10, 2010
ok, they made a mistake, the important thing is that nobody was hurt.

I had Mr. Z about 4 years ago, and he was the BEST teacher I've ever had.
He's the only history teacher that I've had from whom I've actually learned some history from, and still remember it to this day. Mr. Z, as well as Mrs. T, shouldn't be fired at all.

I think they should just agree to never do something like that ever again. The kids probably learned something from that activity. Like how acupuncture came to be, and other things dealing with Chinese culture.

And exactly how many parent's were upset about this??
Granted I would be kind of upset too, but no child was hurt, and no child complained about the activity. And they also volunteered for it themselves, it's not like the teacher just started jabbing people in the arm with needles...

Anyways, Mr. Z and Mrs. T are two of the best teacher's I've ever had, they definitely shouldn't get fired for one little mistake like this...
former student

Cleveland, OH

#21 Nov 10, 2010
Stormer wrote:
I agree with Stormy. How dare those teachers find good and creative ways to educate our children? That's right every teacher that inspire our kids intelligence and have then doing hands on experiments in miserable professions like health care should be fire and sued immediately.
When is this gonna stop? What if they turn out to be doctors??? If those kids keep getting this kind of education, who will work at Wallmart and Mcdonalds?
That's it we're doomed with teachers like that!
ROOOFL!!

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