Sciatic nerve pain needs specialist

There are 20 comments on the GoErie.com story from Dec 2, 2008, titled Sciatic nerve pain needs specialist. In it, GoErie.com reports that:

Q. I am a 76-year-old man having a difficult problem with sciatic nerve pain. I have had episodes of this ailment before but never to this degree.

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Tim

United States

#1 Dec 3, 2008
I suffered with back problems for over 20 years. Only after getting adjusted by a chiropractor did the problem get resolved. It was so powerful, I decided to become a chiropractor.
At your age, it is very likely you've had the problem for decades. Honestly, 16 visits probably is not enough to accomplish hardly anything. Like most of the meds you take for a variety of other things, chiropractic adjustments are probably needed from now on. And before you scoff at that, just know that surgery is also permanent and dangerous.
Good luck.
Jenni Tulwortz

Canton, OH

#2 Dec 3, 2008
I think the very best thing you can do for any medical problem is to immediately write to a syndicated advice columnist.

Since: Nov 08

Warren, OH

#3 Dec 3, 2008
Jenni Tulwortz wrote:
I think the very best thing you can do for any medical problem is to immediately write to a syndicated advice columnist.
Nothing funny about nerve pain. It's excruciating. I had sciatic nerve pain all through my pregnancy with my son. There was NO way to get comfortable, NO way to stop the pain; sitting, standing, walking, bending, resting -- NOTHING helped, except, finally, delivery. But it was one of the most painful things I've ever experienced.
DrBean

Port Angeles, WA

#4 Dec 4, 2008
More advanced testing and harder drugs will not solve the problem, the only thing a Medical specialist will do is give harder drugs or recommend surgery. Which is out of the question for 90% of sciatic problems. MRI is a good suggestion, but this is only to rule out other possibilities. You simply have to give the chiropractor more time, however...you may want to go to a chiropractor that specializes in less aggressive adjusting methods as the traditional methods may be just too much due to the swollen nerve tissue. And don't forget the stretching and icing procedures. If you'd like more help go to my website: sequimhealth.com . there's your third opinion:)
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#5 Dec 4, 2008
The best thing you can do is see a qualified physician, a medical physician. The MD has extensive clinical experience in examining and treating sick patients and is uniquely qualified to differentially diagnose a myriad of problems. The typical chiropractic graduate has limited clinical experience. Indeed, the typical chiropractic graduate sees 20 or so people in their "school clinic" before they graduate. Many times, these "patients" are friends and family members helping the chiropractic student meet his "clinical" requirements.

Face it, "like a box of chocolates" you never know what you'll get when choosing a chiropractor. Some of these bozos will treat every patient by lightly pushing on ONLY the top vertebrae...NO matter what the condition.

Its all really stupid. The chiropractic field needs to clean itself up before pretending they are qualified to be portal of entry "doctors".

The chiropractic disaper is full and it stinks.
nwtk2007

Rowlett, TX

#6 Dec 4, 2008
Go read other posts by Mr/Ms Wisdump and you'll see that he/she/it wanted to be a chiro but failed and now is bitter to the point of lashing out at everything chiropractic.

Most, including myself, have very successfully treated sciatic pain with nothing more than stretching techniques and very little in the way of manipulation.

Even in cases where HNP or disc protrusion is present, the conservative physical medicine techniques practiced by most chiro's these days works pretty well on sciatic pain.

The patient satisfaction rates for chiro treatment is very high, much to the schregrin of BoZo's like mr/ms Wisdump.
K Mac

United States

#7 Dec 4, 2008
Jenni Tulwortz wrote:
I think the very best thing you can do for any medical problem is to immediately write to a syndicated advice columnist.
Oh, that was a great comment!

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#8 Dec 4, 2008
The article failed to mention that the person took potassium or even had the potassium level checked. Potassium was a common cure for leg problems especially at night.

“GodBless+KeepYou”

Since: Oct 08

Crawford County

#9 Dec 4, 2008
When I had a car accident, I tried to ignore the pain and just go to the chiropractor, thinking it was an old complaint acting up. It was but it wasn't. I finally bit the bullet and saw a specialist. Xrays really didn't reveal anything that I didn't suspect, but it didn't show WHY I had so much pain in my hip, leg, lower back.
An MRI was ordered, and a small disc herniation showed up! Physical therapy and showing why I had the pain and when helped so much. Exercise and stretching now keep it in check, and helps me to better understand what my chiropractor can and cannot do for me, without the right information. I appreciate all of the help I had in finding my healing.
Get the MRI, and get a copy of the report to your chiropractor?
GBKY

“GodBless+KeepYou”

Since: Oct 08

Crawford County

#10 Dec 4, 2008
K Mac wrote:
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Oh, that was a great comment!
You think that's great? Ever 'deciphered'-Jen's- name? nice... not.
GBKY
n8life

Rincon, GA

#11 Dec 4, 2008
Wisdom's post seems to offer anything but wisdom; disinformation would be more accurate. Every Chiropractic school requires three to four hundred visits in outpatient clinic before graduation, not 20. No one has nough family and friends to comprise that many visits. Just exactly how many surgeries do you think the average med school requires of its students before they graduate? How many Tooth extractions do you think Dental students are doing before they graduate? Hundreds? I wouldn't expect anywhere near that, but unlike Wisdom, I will openly admit that I have never looked into it, I am just estimating.
The purpose of Chiropractic care is to improve neurologic function so that the body can heal itself (which is never the goal of medical care). The Chiropractic approach to this is by using the expansive connection between the spinal joints and the brain. Nerve endings called Mechanoreceptors are most heavily loaded in the joints of the spine (compared with joints in the arms and legs) and especially in the joints of the top of the neck (which is why focusing on the top 2 vertebrae in the neck can have such a powerful effect on most people). The spinal mechanoreceptors and spindles (another type of nerve ending) of the postural muscles make up 80% of the brain's activation and stimulation. Fixated spinal joints and this increasingly sedentary lifestyle we are all leading can cause some of the most critical of the brain's input pathways to degenerate through a process called synaptic pruning (think use it or lose it). A light thrust into the appropriate spinal joint(s) can increase the activation of a particular neurologic pathway and increase the brain's ability to control the postural systems of the body as well as autonomic function (the brain's control over organ and immune function)in many people. of course, like exercise, physical therapy, orthodontic braces and many other health care modalities, once or even a few times is not enough to create lasting change. Could you expect to see much change from exercising 16 times in a 76 year old? Not very realistic.
All of this is supported in the literature by reasearch, but, surprize surprize, you have to look at Chiropractic research journals to find it. It's somewhere between funny and sad how often people like Wisdom will claim that there is no research supporting Chiropractic yet they have never looked in a single Chiropractic journal. You can find some Chiropractic research in medical journals (search 'Chiropractic and Hgih Blood Pressure' or 'Chiropractc and Drug Addiction') but you won't find much. You also won't find much dental research or psychology research in medical journals. Their research is published in dental and psychology journals, common-sensically.
I'm not sure exactly what you want cleaned up. It's not Chiropractic that I hear several commercials daily suggesting that if you've been injured call this attourney. I'm all for improving the profession on a continual basis, but when you realize that Chiropractic has a better safety record than even the safest over the counter pain reliever it is hard to justify pointing the critical finger at the Chiropractic profession as needing some serious policing.
K Mac

United States

#12 Dec 5, 2008
Brenda1 wrote:
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You think that's great? Ever 'deciphered'-Jen's- name? nice... not.
GBKY
Yes, the name was disgusting, but it was a FANTASTIC comment, IMO! Why would these people write to an advice column about a medical problem?

"Dear Dr. Gott, I've been having pains shooting up and down my arm, one side of my body is numb, and I can't see out of one eye. I'm 45 years old and weigh 475 pounds. My doctor thinks I need quituple bypass surgery. What do you think? I won't schedule it until I hear your reply."

Some of them are good for a laugh or two, thougn.
K Mac

United States

#13 Dec 5, 2008
that would be "thougH".
K Mac

United States

#14 Dec 5, 2008
Oops, and "quintuple". ah, just forget it!
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#15 Dec 5, 2008
Hey n8 bozo, I AM the expert on chiropractic.

Fact: The current clinical requirements at say, Life chiropractic college, the worlds largest chiropractic college, is to see 20 different patients. The fact of the matter is that many of these "patients" are friends and family members that help the student meet his or her requirements. The fact of the matter is that most, if not all of the "real" patients have no more than limited back and neck discomfort. The fact of the matter is that these chiropractic students do NOT examine, diagnose or treat real illnesses or disease at their "student clinic". The fact of the matter is that tens of thousands of these quackers still believe that most, if not all, disease is caused by a fictitious misalignment of the top vertebrae. These quackers practice techniques such as nucca and hio and activator. The fact of the matetr is that chiropractors are woefully unprepared to examine or diagnose anyone.

Another fact: Most every chiropractor graduates without ever treating a child, yet when they graudate, they then claim that they are qualified to treat children. That is an incredible fact which is downplayed and even denied by these quackers. And that is dangerous. Beware.

Fact: this is a quack field that needs to be shut down. Fact: chiropractic is the largest health care fraud in America.

Now, while generic manipulation has been shown to have benefits for some patients sufferring from uncomplicated and limited back pain, NO "chiropractic technique" such as activator, SOT, gonstead, hio, AK or touch for health have been shown to be good for anything.

Visit "chirotalk.proboards.3 " for all your chiropractic information. This website is run by former and current chiropractors and MDs and is devoted to exposing the scams about chiropractic.

It is the website that most chiroppractors hate. It is also the website that most critically thinking chiropractors love. It is a site that every chiropractic student must go to before going a hundred thousand dollars in debt and then finding out that job prospects for chiropractors are horrible. It could very well save them from a lifetime of financial misery.

Look, the chiropractic diaper is full and it needs to be emptied.
nwtk2007

Joshua, TX

#16 Dec 5, 2008
Wisdump - "Hey n8 bozo, I AM the expert on chiropractic."

As so many of your anti-chiro buddies are fond of quoting, I can't make it up any better than that.

You just can't argue with success Wisdump. Doesn't that just chap your a$$?

“GodBless+KeepYou”

Since: Oct 08

Crawford County

#17 Dec 5, 2008
K Mac wrote:
Oops, and "quintuple". ah, just forget it!
No worries, K Mac... I may 'see' the typos and misspells, but instead of pointing them all out, I prefer to (when feasible) use them in my post correctly. It doesn't beat up folks, and some may even pick up and be glad for the spelling lesson.
(And believe it or not - I KNOW I've misspelled some words here myself. SHOCKER! LOL)
GBKY
Biker

Fairview, PA

#18 Dec 5, 2008
BeckyKnapp wrote:
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Nothing funny about nerve pain. It's excruciating. I had sciatic nerve pain all through my pregnancy with my son. There was NO way to get comfortable, NO way to stop the pain; sitting, standing, walking, bending, resting -- NOTHING helped, except, finally, delivery. But it was one of the most painful things I've ever experienced.
You obviously haven't been run over by a semi-truck yet.
Biker

Fairview, PA

#19 Dec 5, 2008
Chiropractors are quacks and some are charlatans.
nwtk2007

Joshua, TX

#20 Dec 6, 2008
I'm sure you are another expert on chiropractic Biker.

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