Manchester High Assault May Have Been...

Manchester High Assault May Have Been Gang-Related

There are 106 comments on the Hartford Courant story from Apr 26, 2008, titled Manchester High Assault May Have Been Gang-Related. In it, Hartford Courant reports that:

The condition of a Manchester High School student severely injured in an assault in school improved Friday as police investigated the possibility that the clash between students was gang-related. Brian McNally, ...

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shoreliner

Guilford, CT

#1 Apr 26, 2008
Where is the outrage by the MHS administration and other students about what happened Thursday?

Why is Nicholas Brown allowed to go to school when he has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit second-degree assault in another case?

A student nearly lost his life and this event is marginalized because fights occur everyday at MHS.

If I was Brian McNally's parent, I would engage an attorney and prepare legal action against the accused, their parents, the MHS administration, and the Manchester school board.

All children should be safe at school.

As a final note, because I perceive that most of the school officials appear to be lackadaisical about this situation, all state residents should demand that Connecticut establishes a tuition tax credit program for families who decide to send their children to a private school.

Not only is this the fair thing to do but it could also improve the quality of public school education if teachers/adminstrators need to compete to keep students in their district.
Jesse J

South Britain, CT

#2 Apr 26, 2008
shoreliner wrote:
Where is the outrage by the MHS administration and other students about what happened Thursday?
Why is Nicholas Brown allowed to go to school when he has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit second-degree assault in another case?
A student nearly lost his life and this event is marginalized because fights occur everyday at MHS.
If I was Brian McNally's parent, I would engage an attorney and prepare legal action against the accused, their parents, the MHS administration, and the Manchester school board.
All children should be safe at school.
As a final note, because I perceive that most of the school officials appear to be lackadaisical about this situation, all state residents should demand that Connecticut establishes a tuition tax credit program for families who decide to send their children to a private school.
Not only is this the fair thing to do but it could also improve the quality of public school education if teachers/adminstrators need to compete to keep students in their district.
ALL very good points!!!
huskyoranges

Glastonbury, CT

#3 Apr 26, 2008
hard prison time would solve some of this.
Special schools should be established. When i was a kid, in the city i lived in, there was junior and senior high school that were "trade" schools. Most of the juvenile delinquents were sent to the trade school. They have no business going to school with a general law abiding school population.
SIG

AOL

#5 Apr 26, 2008
These thugs have no right to be in our public education system: their each a burdon on society. They'll likely lead a life of crime and end up in our criminal system anyway. Why not save the taxpayers a few bucks and send them to jail right now for the rest of their rotten lives? It's much cheaper than the amount of money we'll end up spending on all their robberies, assaults, rapes and murders still to be committed. A more probable outcome: MHS will seek more taxpayer funds in 2009 to implement a series of counseling programs and gang appreciation courses, so all students can better understand the gang mentality. We have to be PC and cannot offend these gangs as they have the right to assemble.
Fred

Danbury, CT

#6 Apr 26, 2008
Is this the Michael Peck who is facing theft charges before the Grievance Committee? Good luck to this poor defendant, not to say that he doesn't deserve it.
Benny

Hartford, CT

#8 Apr 26, 2008
Ron Webb wrote:
Every single day when it gets warm and the kids get out school for the day, the Manchester police have to break up the roaming pack of AFRO AMERICAN KIDS hanging out in front of my house at the intersection of Summit and Flower streets.
But God forbid i say this because i will be called a bigot for telling the truth...i know the kids are out there spliting up the news papers for the routes.
Again the rot creeps down the hill from Spruce street.
And your gang element is coming in from that open sewer known as Hartford.
Actually Manchester is much worse than Hartford. If there's an open sewer, it's your mouth.
Mary H

Mansfield Depot, CT

#9 Apr 26, 2008
shoreliner wrote:
Where is the outrage by the MHS administration and other students about what happened Thursday?
Why is Nicholas Brown allowed to go to school when he has pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit second-degree assault in another case?
A student nearly lost his life and this event is marginalized because fights occur everyday at MHS.
If I was Brian McNally's parent, I would engage an attorney and prepare legal action against the accused, their parents, the MHS administration, and the Manchester school board.
All children should be safe at school.
As a final note, because I perceive that most of the school officials appear to be lackadaisical about this situation, all state residents should demand that Connecticut establishes a tuition tax credit program for families who decide to send their children to a private school.
Not only is this the fair thing to do but it could also improve the quality of public school education if teachers/adminstrators need to compete to keep students in their district.
Another option is to give public schools more support and power in dealing with student discipline without interference from lawyers and parents who inappropriately protect their children from consequences.

Connecticut just passed a law severely restricting schools' ability to suspend students out of school.

Special education students have a host of additional rights, and it can be an expensive nightmare for a school district to hold them accountable.
April

Warren, NJ

#10 Apr 26, 2008
"When you talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time, that's the history of Nicholas Brown," Peck said."

Yeah...I bet...
Darwin

Manchester, CT

#11 Apr 26, 2008
At what point will the Manchester town board get a clue and free up th hands of the police to deal with the underage gangs?

Similar to what happened in Rockville in the 90's
downeaster

Wendell, MA

#12 Apr 26, 2008
i can remember the 50's and early 60's when mhs was a proud school,new clean, well kept by the students and staff. manchester was a friendly town where you could walk and socialize on main street particularly on thursday nights, children played outside, unsupervised since that time the residents and the politicians have turned it into a ghetto. you earned it with your greed for fed money you will continue to see your real estate values decline and your taxes increase with each of these beating stabbins, drug busts and murders. glad i moved on, but sad for the city of village charm
jimmy crack corn

North Kingstown, RI

#13 Apr 26, 2008
Looks like all the kids were trouble makers... The kid who got beat up was a kid trying to act tough..
Looks like he might be a good boy after all this...
Ruby

Woodcliff Lake, NJ

#14 Apr 26, 2008
It's not the schools' fault that parents don't raise their kids right. The schools job is to provide education.

Most of these kids are joining gangs and getting into fights because their families failed to teach them respect.

For those families whose kids get sucked into this way of life as a matter of self defense, give them the help they need.

Prison isn't always the answer. Get these kids BEFORE they the fights, not after. We need more positive community involvement to break this cycle.
Mary H

Mansfield Depot, CT

#16 Apr 26, 2008
April wrote:
"When you talk about being in the wrong place at the wrong time, that's the history of Nicholas Brown," Peck said."
Yeah...I bet...
Reminds me of a parent I know whose nasty teenage daughter was constantly in trouble. Mom blamed others for her daughter's terrible behavior, saying she "got in with the wrong crowd". She totally ignored the fact that any crowd the girl had been in was a bad crowd. As a matter of fact, once she joined a group, it became a "bad crowd" under her influence, even if it hadn't been before. She intimidated good kids into following her through her bullying behavior.

So, perhaps in Nick Green's case his presence makes it the wrong time and the wrong place. Otherwise, he has very, incredibly, stupendously bad luck and should just stay home at night, do his homework and go to class so the bad luck doesn't follow his innocent self out on the streets.
bam bam

Manchester, CT

#19 Apr 26, 2008
"We have fights every day, but this one was just the worst one," said Leah King, a junior at the high school who knows McNally. She once dated McNally and has known him since middle school, she said, adding "He's really nice if you get to know him." "

You have got to be kidding me.
BlaccuWeather

Hartford, CT

#20 Apr 26, 2008
FUDD wrote:
just a bunch of " WANNABES" these arent the real crips from los angeles , just a bunch of punks who have taken up the name but are bold enough to engage in the criminal activity that the crips and bloods in south central los angeles do. these are nothing more than babies in diapers who are a joke and about as cowardice as a cat with its tail stuck between its back legs..........just a bunch of punks who think they are tough but when the heat is on them would run like a scared rabbit.
*Can't believe I'm about to co-sign him*.... but Fudd is right. There are no REAL Crips or Bloods here.
BlaccuWeather

Hartford, CT

#22 Apr 26, 2008
FUDD wrote:
maybee if these copycats wants to see real gang action send them to chicago or los angeles........
They wouldn't survive.
GrayPlayer

Granby, CT

#23 Apr 26, 2008
WHAT, there are GANGS in Connecticut schools! Stop the presses, sound the alarm, get out the word.

MHS has GANGS! Do the school administrators know this, the principal, the teachers.

If this is so, why is this the first public mention of this. A closely guarded secret perhaps, kept hush hush by a failed administration.

Residents and parents of Manchester should be up in arms. Letters and phone calls to school officials should start some action before it really is too late.
WPD-CT

Durham, CT

#24 Apr 26, 2008
All three (and their uninvolved guardians/parents) are to blame.

These students are not "special ed"; punks and delinquents should not be classified like actual special-needs students.

Treat thugs like thugs. If they want to act tough and/or add nothing to society, take them off the street and put them away.

Remove anyone in the school administration that says school violence is "normal".
WPD-CT

Durham, CT

#25 Apr 26, 2008
It's past time for these kids' "idols & role models" to be held responsible for pushing this culture of ignorance and "cred" over ACTUAL worth and skill. Parents need to invest in their children instead of claiming society, bigotry, or "the other kid(s)" are to blame. My job as a parent never ends and banning certain behavior or content in my presence has created two CONTRIBUTING members of society. Leave the ghetto in the ghetto.(This is a behavioral statement, not about locale)
Tag07

East Glastonbury, CT

#26 Apr 26, 2008
2,300 kids in the school. 2 resource officers. Too many kids, not enough security.

Sadly, we live in an increasingly litigious society with ever-increasing displays of aggression and unfounded attitudes of entitlement.

Children don't come out of the womb with fists flying and hate in their hearts. We teach them language, the rules of society, how to be a good person and what's right and wrong. Some may disagree, but in my opinion, the problems we see in children today are no more than a mirror's reflection of how society as a whole has deteriorated on all levels.

Trying to fix these kids without first fixing what is wrong with our society is like trying to nail jello to a tree.

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