Should state mandate immunizations? N...

Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July

There are 9778 comments on the Chattanoogan.com story from May 4, 2011, titled Should state mandate immunizations? New requirements effective in July. In it, Chattanoogan.com reports that:

Immunizations are one of the most efficient and cost-effective ways to protect children against childhood diseases and Tennessee law requires documented immunizations.

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momofaspie

Knoxville, TN

#10243 Aug 31, 2014
No. To those who think our kids get the same shots as our parents, you are wrong. Moreover, our kids get way more. All kids are different and theIr immune systems are different. Some cannt handle these vaccines. For those that think the NIH has done studies to see if they are safe, this is only slightly true. They have done studies on two vaccines. If administered on th heir own, without the others they are bundled with and without the prior schedule, they did not cause autism. They have not studied the cumulative affect, they have not put protocols in place to check immune systems preadministration. They have not studies the immune overload with the bundled vaccines. They have not studied the autistic population at all in terms of vaccines. If you dont understand how much money is involved, then you are naive.
Sadly, you learn this after you child has been diagnosed. Nobody wants mumps or these other things. But the affects of some of these are not nearly as dire as the effects of autism. There are options to provide some safety measures. I. E. Check glutathione levels pre vaccine. Spread out the schedule with single dose vials, take out the preservatives. Please do the research before you encourage a mandate. Check out DAN. You can learn alot. Dont judge the people who wont vaccinate. Their is a reason.
TheRealZeke

Paris, TN

#10244 Aug 31, 2014
momofaspie wrote:
No. To those who think our kids get the same shots as our parents, you are wrong. Moreover, our kids get way more. All kids are different and theIr immune systems are different. Some cannt handle these vaccines. For those that think the NIH has done studies to see if they are safe, this is only slightly true. They have done studies on two vaccines. If administered on th heir own, without the others they are bundled with and without the prior schedule, they did not cause autism. They have not studied the cumulative affect, they have not put protocols in place to check immune systems preadministration. They have not studies the immune overload with the bundled vaccines. They have not studied the autistic population at all in terms of vaccines. If you dont understand how much money is involved, then you are naive.
Sadly, you learn this after you child has been diagnosed. Nobody wants mumps or these other things. But the affects of some of these are not nearly as dire as the effects of autism. There are options to provide some safety measures. I. E. Check glutathione levels pre vaccine. Spread out the schedule with single dose vials, take out the preservatives. Please do the research before you encourage a mandate. Check out DAN. You can learn alot. Dont judge the people who wont vaccinate. Their is a reason.
The question remains whether there is a relevant reason.

Provide sources for your claims.
TheRealZeke

Paris, TN

#10245 Aug 31, 2014
Idiots wrote:
No they should not! We should be allowed to make our own choices!
You are the dumbass. You make questionable but don't understand that those claims need to be supported with evidence.
In other words, just because you believe something does not mean it is true. Nor can it be said that we should take what you write here simply because you have written it.
To put things quite simply--your reply here suggests that you are full of shit.
TheRealZeke

Paris, TN

#10246 Aug 31, 2014
turdddd wrote:
<quoted text>
how dumb are you to even reply?
My previous reply is directed to you, not the idiots.
TheRealZeke

Paris, TN

#10247 Aug 31, 2014
Idiots wrote:
No they should not! We should be allowed to make our own choices!
Does that include choices about all things?
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10248 Aug 31, 2014
momofaspie wrote:
No. To those who think our kids get the same shots as our parents, you are wrong. Moreover, our kids get way more. All kids are different and theIr immune systems are different. Some cannt handle these vaccines. For those that think the NIH has done studies to see if they are safe, this is only slightly true. They have done studies on two vaccines. If administered on th heir own, without the others they are bundled with and without the prior schedule, they did not cause autism. They have not studied the cumulative affect, they have not put protocols in place to check immune systems preadministration. They have not studies the immune overload with the bundled vaccines. They have not studied the autistic population at all in terms of vaccines. If you dont understand how much money is involved, then you are naive.
Sadly, you learn this after you child has been diagnosed. Nobody wants mumps or these other things. But the affects of some of these are not nearly as dire as the effects of autism. There are options to provide some safety measures. I. E. Check glutathione levels pre vaccine. Spread out the schedule with single dose vials, take out the preservatives. Please do the research before you encourage a mandate. Check out DAN. You can learn alot. Dont judge the people who wont vaccinate. Their is a reason.
You have no, ZERO valid proof that ANY vaccines are linked to Autism. None.
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10249 Aug 31, 2014
Idiots wrote:
No they should not! We should be allowed to make our own choices!
So we should each decide which side of the road we want to drive on and how fast or slow we go? Should we be able to decide which grade in school our children should be in? Just curious, but this total choice thing could be a problem, couldn't it?
WTH

United States

#10250 Aug 31, 2014
next ? mandated micro-chips implanted , can't buy or sell without it , think of the children.
Windy

Cookeville, TN

#10251 Sep 1, 2014
WTH wrote:
<quoted text>You have no, ZERO valid proof that ANY vaccines are linked to Autism. None.
Guess we all need a nanny to make decisions for the stupid common man.
Wonder if they ever found them WMDs?
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10252 Sep 1, 2014
Windy wrote:
<quoted text>
Guess we all need a nanny to make decisions for the stupid common man.
Wonder if they ever found them WMDs?
Well, if people are so damned stupid as to endanger everyone else, then those people probably should not be allowed to make those choices. I don't know what your last sentence has to do with anything. I guess that's a way of trying to re-direct the conversation when you don't know what else to say. What immunizations have you or your children had? I'd bet all of them.
Windy

Cookeville, TN

#10253 Sep 1, 2014
Windy wrote:
<quoted text>
Guess we all need a nanny to make decisions for the stupid common man.
Wonder if they ever found them WMDs?
That last sentence is concerning those wondrous experts, the ones who knew best ,the nanny folks. So how did that all work out?
TheRealZeke

Paris, TN

#10254 Sep 1, 2014
Windy wrote:
<quoted text>
That last sentence is concerning those wondrous experts, the ones who knew best ,the nanny folks. So how did that all work out?
So, you believe that if someone is wrong about one thing, that person is wrong about everything.

You are clearly wrong about that claim. So you are indeed wrong about everything.
Snowball

Johnson City, TN

#10255 Sep 1, 2014
you know wrote:
<quoted text>You are really silly.
Are you ok with your child getting polio or whooping cough ?
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10256 Sep 2, 2014
WTH wrote:
next ? mandated micro-chips implanted , can't buy or sell without it , think of the children.
Oh, I see. You are too stupod to make up your own name, huh?
Windy

Knoxville, TN

#10257 Sep 2, 2014
Windy wrote:
<quoted text>
That last sentence is concerning those wondrous experts, the ones who knew best ,the nanny folks. So how did that all work out?
Yes, dear the same exact people make the vaccines. Isn't that right?
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10258 Sep 2, 2014
Snowball wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you ok with your child getting polio or whooping cough ?
Of course not, but they are OK with YOUR child getting Polio or Whooping Cough, though.
WOW

Lexington, TN

#10259 Sep 2, 2014
The CDC's Pink Book, lists SIDs & autism as adverse events following vaccine administration. PDF is available from the CDC. You'll actually have to read it though.

Hannah Poling, Bailey Banks + 81 more children compensated by VICP,( these are the families who have come forward), makes you wonder haw many more are out there.

Wake up parents,

H1N1 Flu Vaccine: 14-Fold Increased Risk for narcolepsy:

http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.a...
WOW

Lexington, TN

#10260 Sep 2, 2014
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control owns a patent on a particular strain of Ebola known as “EboBun.” It’s patent No. CA2741523A1 and it was awarded in 2010.

Patent applicants are clearly described on the patent as including:

The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Secretary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Control.

The patent summary says,“The invention provides the isolated human Ebola (hEbola) viruses denoted as Bundibugyo (EboBun) deposited with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (“CDC”; Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America) on November 26, 2007 and accorded an accession number 200706291.”

It goes on to state,“The present invention is based upon the isolation and identification of a new human Ebola virus species, EboBun. EboBun was isolated from the patients suffering from hemorrhagic fever in a recent outbreak in Uganda.”

It’s worth noting, by the way, that EboBun is not the same variant currently believed to be circulating in West Africa. Clearly, the CDC needs to expand its patent portfolio to include more strains, and that may very well be why American Ebola victims have been brought to the United States in the first place. Read more below and decide for yourself.

From the patent description on the EboBun virus, we know that the U.S. government:

1) Extracts Ebola viruses from patients.

2) Claims to have “invented” that virus.

3) Files for monopoly patent protection on the virus.

To understand why this is happening, you have to first understand what a patent really is and why it exists. A patent is a government-enforced monopoly that is exclusively granted to persons or organizations. It allows that person or organization to exclusively profit from the “invention” or deny others the ability to exploit the invention for their own profit.

It brings up the obvious question here: Why would the U.S. government claim to have “invented” Ebola and then claim an exclusively monopoly over its ownership?

U.S. Government claims exclusive ownership over its “invention” of Ebola

The “SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION” section of the patent document also clearly claims that the U.S. government is claiming “ownership” over all Ebola viruses that share as little as 70% similarity with the Ebola it “invented”:

…invention relates to the isolated EboBun virus that morphologically and phylogenetically relates to known members filoviridae… In another aspect, the invention provides an isolated hEbola EboBun virus comprising a nucleic acid molecule comprising a nucleotide sequence selected from the group consisting of: a) a nucleotide sequence set forth in SEQ ID NO: 1; b) a nucleotide sequence that hybridizes to the sequence set forth in SEQ ID NO: 1 under stringent conditions; and c) a nucleotide sequence that has at least 70%, 75%, 80%, 85%, 90%, 95%, 96%, 97%, 98%, or 99% identity to the SEQ ID NO:

The CDC patent goes on to explain it specifically claims patent protection on a method for propagating the Ebola virus in host cells as well as treating infected hosts with vaccines:

In another aspect, the invention provides a method for propagating the hEbola virus in host cells comprising infecting the host cells with the inventive isolated hEbola virus described above, culturing the host cells to allow the virus to multiply, and harvesting the resulting virions.

In another aspect, the invention provides vaccine preparations, comprising the inventive hEbola virus, including recombinant and chimeric forms of the virus, nucleic acid molecules comprised by the virus, or protein subunits of the virus. The invention also provides a vaccine formulation comprising a therapeutically or prophylactically effective amount of the inventive hEbola virus described above, and a pharmaceutically acceptable carrier.

No medical reason to bring Ebola to the United States.

http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1...
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10261 Sep 2, 2014
WOW wrote:
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control owns a patent on a particular strain of Ebola known as “EboBun.” It’s patent No. CA2741523A1 and it was awarded in 2010.
Patent applicants are clearly described on the patent as including:
The Government Of The United States Of America As Represented By The Secretary, Department Of Health & Human Services, Center For Disease Control.
The patent summary says,“The invention provides the isolated human Ebola (hEbola) viruses denoted as Bundibugyo (EboBun) deposited with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (“CDC”; Atlanta, Georgia, United States of America) on November 26, 2007 and accorded an accession number 200706291.”
It goes on to state,“The present invention is based upon the isolation and identification of a new human Ebola virus species, EboBun. EboBun was isolated from the patients suffering from hemorrhagic fever in a recent outbreak in Uganda.”
It’s worth noting, by the way, that EboBun is not the same variant currently believed to be circulating in West Africa. Clearly, the CDC needs to expand its patent portfolio to include more strains, and that may very well be why American Ebola victims have been brought to the United States in the first place. Read more below and decide for yourself.
From the patent description on the EboBun virus, we know that the U.S. government:
1) Extracts Ebola viruses from patients.
2) Claims to have “invented” that virus.
3) Files for monopoly patent protection on the virus.
To understand why this is happening, you have to first understand what a patent really is and why it exists. A patent is a government-enforced monopoly that is exclusively granted to persons or organizations. It allows that person or organization to exclusively profit from the “invention” or deny others the ability to exploit the invention for their own profit.
It brings up the obvious question here: Why would the U.S. government claim to have “invented” Ebola and then claim an exclusively monopoly over its ownership?
U.S. Government claims exclusive ownership over its “invention” of Ebola
The “SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION” section of the patent document also clearly claims that the U.S. government is claiming “ownership” over all Ebola viruses that share as little as 70% similarity with the Ebola it “invented”:
…invention relates to the isolated EboBun virus that morphologically and phylogenetically relates to known members filoviridae… In another aspect, the invention provides an isolated hEbola EboBun virus comprising a nucleic acid molecule comprising a nucleotide sequence selected from the group consisting of: a) a nucleotide sequence set forth in SEQ ID NO: 1; b) a nucleotide sequence that hybridizes to the sequence set forth in SEQ ID NO: 1 under stringent conditions; and c) a nucleotide sequence that has at least 70%, 75%, 80%, 85%, 90%, 95%, 96%, 97%, 98%, or 99% identity to the SEQ ID NO:
Tculturing the host cells to allow the virus to multiply, and harvesting the resulting virions.
In another aspect, the invention provides vaccine preparations, comprising the inventive hEbola virus, including recombinant and chimeric forms of the virus, nucleic acid molecules comprised by the virus, or protein subunits of the virus. The invention also provides a vaccine formulation comprising a therapeutically or prophylactically effective amount of the inventive hEbola virus described above, and a pharmaceutically acceptable carrier.
No medical reason to bring Ebola to the United States.
http://www.google.com/patents/CA2741523A1...
I hear they plan to infect all the tin foil hat crowd and then ask if they want a vaccine.
WTH

Knoxville, TN

#10262 Sep 2, 2014
WOW wrote:
The CDC's Pink Book, lists SIDs & autism as adverse events following vaccine administration. PDF is available from the CDC. You'll actually have to read it though.
Hannah Poling, Bailey Banks + 81 more children compensated by VICP,( these are the families who have come forward), makes you wonder haw many more are out there.
Wake up parents,
H1N1 Flu Vaccine: 14-Fold Increased Risk for narcolepsy:
http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.a...
Bet you had immunizations though, huh?

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