White, straight women leading surge in infertility treatments

Aug 19, 2014 Full story: Science Daily 22

Heterosexual white women are twice as likely as racial or sexual minority women to obtain medical help to get pregnant, according to a recent study.

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Frontline Fighter

Pittsburgh, PA

#1 Aug 19, 2014
This is a no-brainer, given that such a small number of women are lesbians.
Aspirin Between My Legos

Philadelphia, PA

#2 Aug 19, 2014
Frontline Fighter wrote:
This is a no-brainer, given that such a small number of women are lesbians.
Your inability to read that subhead is no surprise - your racism magically suppressed the foregrounded racial disparity mentioned.
rhb

Waterloo, IA

#4 Aug 20, 2014
wrong infertility is a disease and deserves medical treatment like any disease. If you don't want children please get sterilized. People with infertility aren'[-t responsible for kids in foster care. Its the parents who never should have children in the first place who cause kids to be in foster care.
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Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#5 Aug 21, 2014
Fertility treatments are often a vanity luxury of the well off, often by women who are beyond biologically advisable child bearing age, and there's too many humans on the planet.

For younger couples who want one or two kids of their own the case is a closer call, I guess. But it's still all about class privilege.
Emmy

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Aug 21, 2014
I'm not white but I can't have children on my own so, I need fertility treatments and I don't consider myself privileged.
Latter Day Taints wrote:
Fertility treatments are often a vanity luxury of the well off, often by women who are beyond biologically advisable child bearing age, and there's too many humans on the planet.
For younger couples who want one or two kids of their own the case is a closer call, I guess. But it's still all about class privilege.
Latter Day Taints

Philadelphia, PA

#7 Aug 21, 2014
Emmy wrote:
I'm not white but I can't have children on my own so, I need fertility treatments and I don't consider myself privileged.
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If you can afford a medical procedure like that you are privileged. My understanding is that it can easily run into the tens of thousands. I don't know about typical health insurance coverage of fertility treatments, though.

I note you said you "need," not that you "have obtained."
Emmy

Stafford, VA

#8 Aug 22, 2014
I am actually receiving fertility treatments now, and again I still not feel privilege, some of us have to save to be able to receive these treatments.
Latter Day Taints wrote:
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If you can afford a medical procedure like that you are privileged. My understanding is that it can easily run into the tens of thousands. I don't know about typical health insurance coverage of fertility treatments, though.
I note you said you "need," not that you "have obtained."
True is True

Beverly, MA

#9 Aug 22, 2014
When there are so many children in the world that need a good home, to me fertility treatment is just downright selfish and vain.

And if you put yourself into debt to breed your own genetic children, then how are you going to
provide for their needs financially?

And I have personally seen the results of some of these treatments producing multiple births with several children being born too early with lingering health problems that would not have occurred otherwise. How is that helping the planet?

None of it makes sense.
L Craig s Hush Puppies

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Aug 23, 2014
Emmy wrote:
I am actually receiving fertility treatments now, and again I still not feel privilege, some of us have to save to be able to receive these treatments.
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Again, if you can get comprehensive health care of any sort then you are privileged, whether you realize it or not.

And no matter how much you want children of your own fertility treatments are an elective procedure. I just hope you're not one of those women over 40 or 45 doing this.
Emmy

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Aug 23, 2014
If I was 40 or 50 that's my provocative. But, everybody is entitled to their own opinions.
L Craig s Hush Puppies wrote:
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Again, if you can get comprehensive health care of any sort then you are privileged, whether you realize it or not.
And no matter how much you want children of your own fertility treatments are an elective procedure. I just hope you're not one of those women over 40 or 45 doing this.
Emmy

Philadelphia, PA

#12 Aug 23, 2014
You go adopt those children then, it's vain for someone to get fertility treatments that cannot get pregnant naturally?? You must not be infertile. And especially if you have children, you need not judge because you will never know what the pain feels like. It's crazy how people like you expect those that can't have children naturally, to adopt children that have been abandoned by their parents. While I have sympathy for the children, I want my own. I didn't abandon those children, therefore they are not my responsibility, nor are they any other infertile couple or individuals responsibility.
True is True wrote:
When there are so many children in the world that need a good home, to me fertility treatment is just downright selfish and vain.
And if you put yourself into debt to breed your own genetic children, then how are you going to
provide for their needs financially?
And I have personally seen the results of some of these treatments producing multiple births with several children being born too early with lingering health problems that would not have occurred otherwise. How is that helping the planet?
None of it makes sense.
L Craig s Hush Puppies

Philadelphia, PA

#13 Aug 23, 2014
Emmy wrote:
If I was 40 or 50 that's my provocative. But, everybody is entitled to their own opinions.
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No, then it begins to affect other people, due to the increased likelihood of medical problems...because the mother is unnaturally old to be giving birth.

Anyway, with your misspellings it's hard to tell "troll" from "uneducated."
rhb

Waterloo, IA

#14 Aug 23, 2014
True is True wrote:
When there are so many children in the world that need a good home, to me fertility treatment is just downright selfish and vain.
And if you put yourself into debt to breed your own genetic children, then how are you going to
provide for their needs financially?
And I have personally seen the results of some of these treatments producing multiple births with several children being born too early with lingering health problems that would not have occurred otherwise. How is that helping the planet?
None of it makes sense.
no it is selfish and vain. But a natural urge of most people. If children don't have a good home that is their parents fault not people who want their own children. Most of children that need a good home, live with their natural parents.
STARTS WITH VACCINES

Winnipeg, Canada

#15 Aug 24, 2014
rhb wrote:
wrong infertility is a disease and deserves medical treatment like any disease. If you don't want children please get sterilized. People with infertility aren'[-t responsible for kids in foster care. Its the parents who never should have children in the first place who cause kids to be in foster care.
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A disease? DUH, its a condition fool.
rhb

Waterloo, IA

#16 Aug 24, 2014
L Craig s Hush Puppies wrote:
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Again, if you can get comprehensive health care of any sort then you are privileged, whether you realize it or not.
And no matter how much you want children of your own fertility treatments are an elective procedure. I just hope you're not one of those women over 40 or 45 doing this.
Infertility is a disease and is not considered elective in most civilized countries (Israel, UK, Europe) and a lot of US states. health care does not make a person priviliged its a basic right now!
QUOTE who
rhb

Waterloo, IA

#17 Aug 24, 2014
Latter Day Taints wrote:
Fertility treatments are often a vanity luxury of the well off, often by women who are beyond biologically advisable child bearing age, and there's too many humans on the planet.
For younger couples who want one or two kids of their own the case is a closer call, I guess. But it's still all about class privilege.
I don't know what rock you live under but fertility treatments are a normal medical procedures in the 21st century. What age people decide to have children is their business as long as they financially support the children. Most abused/unwanted children are born to young unprepared parents living off the government.
Rick Perry s Closet

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Aug 24, 2014
rhb wrote:
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Infertility is a disease and is not considered elective in most civilized countries (Israel, UK, Europe) and a lot of US states. health care does not make a person priviliged its a basic right now!
QUOTE who
In the US, having any or comprehensive health care coverage does make one privileged. We should have a Canadian system, but we don't, as a matter of fact.

Women giving birth when they're too old is not just the woman's business. There is a social cost due to the higher incidences of genetic or other problems with the offspring in those cases, as a matter of fact.

Libertarians think they can do anything they want and screw the effects on others. That is not our system of government, but even if we can't stop women from making unwise reproductive choices we are certainly free to call them out as crazy when they're giving birth beyond their early 40s.

The word was "prerogative."
rhb

Waterloo, IA

#19 Aug 24, 2014
L Craig s Hush Puppies wrote:
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Again, if you can get comprehensive health care of any sort then you are privileged, whether you realize it or not.
And no matter how much you want children of your own fertility treatments are an elective procedure. I just hope you're not one of those women over 40 or 45 doing this.
wrong fertility treatments are not considered elective by most Insurance Blue Cross/United/Aetna, etc. Its a matter of whether or not employers add the coverae which costs about 20 per policy additional. Educate yourself. I was under 40 when started treatment. My mom also had 2 very normal babies over 40. People over 35 are more stable and financial secure for having a child. I will continue until successful. Would never consider adoption or foster care.
Rick Perry s Closet

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Aug 24, 2014
rhb wrote:
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wrong fertility treatments are not considered elective by most Insurance....People over 35 are more stable and financial secure for having a child.
You're unable or unwilling to read.

I said fertility treatments mean you are privileged...because if you have even semi comprehensive health insurance in the US you are privileged. Not everyone has health insurance. Is it now simple enough for you to follow?

That you say, wrongly as a blanket claim, that people over 35 are more stable in various ways is beside the point I was making.

I didn't say "people," for starters. I said _women_ beyond the early 40s tend to have offspring with lots of medical problems. It is irregular to spawn after that age. This is a statistical reality. It doesn't matter if you mention (make up) some anecdote to the contrary. Is that now simple enough for you to follow?

Certain people shouldn't breed at any age, by any method.
rhb

Waterloo, IA

#21 Aug 28, 2014
Rick Perry s Closet wrote:
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You're unable or unwilling to read.
I said fertility treatments mean you are privileged...because if you have even semi comprehensive health insurance in the US you are privileged. Not everyone has health insurance. Is it now simple enough for you to follow?
That you say, wrongly as a blanket claim, that people over 35 are more stable in various ways is beside the point I was making.
I didn't say "people," for starters. I said _women_ beyond the early 40s tend to have offspring with lots of medical problems. It is irregular to spawn after that age. This is a statistical reality. It doesn't matter if you mention (make up) some anecdote to the contrary. Is that now simple enough for you to follow?
Certain people shouldn't breed at any age, by any method.
With the affordable care act, everyone in the US who wants healthcare has it. As I stated before, insurance pays infertility as a normal process. Its employers that exclude coverage. The children born to women over 40 were not stories but facts. Older people are more stable in most circumstances, which is a fact because they have established careers and home life. Clearly there are people that should not have breed especially your parents.

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