Scabies Is Highly Contagious

Scabies Is Highly Contagious

There are 7322 comments on the Healthcentral.com story from Oct 15, 2005, titled Scabies Is Highly Contagious. In it, Healthcentral.com reports that:

Scabies , a skin condition caused by a burrowing mite, is very contagious and can be spread through families and classrooms, the Mayo Clinic explains.

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Mee Too

Ontario, CA

#21 Oct 6, 2006
I'm going to try some new products that people swear it cured scabies. If you would like to read their letters (very convincing) here's how to get to them: go to GOOGLE and type "WHAT'S BUGGING YOU SAFE2USE" once the goole lists the sites click into the second one that reads: "PEOPLE GETTING RID OF PARASITES WITHOUT POISONS" which is ' www.safe2use.com ' and once you click in the site you can read the letters they should be listed all in a row. So I ordered the products and w/keep you posted I sure hope they work.
Been there

United States

#22 Oct 7, 2006
Mee Too wrote:
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Thanks, I was told by 2 vets and 2 people that sell scabies product in the internet that YES I can pass the scabies to my cat and I have already schedulled an appt. for him plus he will stay in their boarding facility for one month just to be safe while I leave the house for 2 weeks and get treated. Hope that will work since I'm gonna try some new products that people swear by (Enzyme cleaner with peppermint and LiceRgone)will find the website and post it soon. And for all of you out there with scabies, tea tree oil only takes the itch away but doesn't kill the mites plus in some cases it causes severe burns to the skin like it did to me.
It's true, the mite can be passed from animal to human and human to animal. I got scabies from my dog and my dog got it from my cat. The Veterinarian and I think the cat got the sarcoptic mange from wildlife since he was out hunting at night.(not anymore) Yes, I've heard that the sarcoptic mange mite is adapted to live on animals and not humans and that the human scabies mite can only live on humans. Sorry, I don't think so. The mite didn't die on me, it spread. I had patches of them on my feet, hands, breast,back stomach, legs and face. They did not die on their own. I had to be treated with Permethrin several times and some would die but then I would find new ones. Finally, the only product that worked was Ivermectin. It is possible that I was being reinfected but all of my animals were being treated at the same time and they were confined ouside the house. I spent most of my time doing laundry, cleaning the house, itching and looking at my skin. TeaTree Oil does not kill mites. I had been using a TeaTree oil mixed with alchol spray on my feet for years. This was before I realized I had scabies. Lice products are not strong enough to kill the mite, except for Kwell but it's been taken off the market by the FDA(not safe to use). Humans need to be treated with Permethrin topical cream and or oral Ivermectin. As for your cat, keeping the animal in a confined clean environment while being treated is a good idea. I still advise Ivermectin injections, 3 about 10 days apart which is the treatment most vets do use Ivermectin to treat sarcoptic mange. Leaving your invironment is good idea since the mites will die without a host, just make sure you and your cat are cured before you come home. I left twice but only for 3 days which isn't long enough. No one seems to know exactly how long the mite can survive off a host. Well, isn't having this mite in your life a pain? not to mention the expense! All the best, Been there.
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#23 Oct 8, 2006
"Been There, San Diego" is speaking the same thing I'm thinking.

I'm pretty much a novice, not even had my mites a year. The 5% cream didn't work. The silly tea tree oil certainly doesn't work. Only the Ivermectin has really shown results, but getting doctors to prescribe it is like MURDER. Can't get it from Canada.

Thankfully...:) My relative lives in Costa Rica where you can get it in quantity. I just received a HUGE supply (don't even ask...), JUST in time cuz mine were gone for like 2 weeks, then I started getting "Creepy Crawlys" again Thursday.

At this point I'm treating it so aggresively that I don't even get the burrow, just start to feel the little fellas motoring about my head and face and body and I start the killing.

I asked my vet, I said "Hey Doc, can the cats transmit any parasites to people". He said "Nope, no way"...... "except scabies, of course..."

It is a very life-changing parasite. It will stress your relationship and cause you to dislike "doctors". They don't know about this...
sonia-michigan

Eastpointe, MI

#24 Oct 8, 2006
about 6 weeks ago my feet started itching like hell.. i mean it was killing me to walk. i would rub my feet really hard than i would get a blister filled w/watery blood. i thought i had jungle feet,HA so i bought tanactin, i used it for 4 weeks my feet got worse, than my hands started to itch. i feel like sh--. so i went to the doc they gave me that permethrin stuff. i have washed everything in the house, i been changing my sheets everyday. they don't have a shot or something?? than i ckd my cats, one of them has been itching alot under her neck. what the hell can i do now?? i got gloves and washed her w/tick medicine and put some of that p stuff on her neck where she can't lick it. i hve been itching so long, i think i am itching now.
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#25 Oct 8, 2006
My vet gave the cats Ivermectin shots.
Twice at a one week interval.
Not sure if this is enough, or if they even have a problem. Their coats look perfect and they show almost no itching at all.
This time I am going to give myself Ivermectin, tree times at 1 week intervals, and treat the cats the same way.
I KNOW I am hurting my body, but what other choice is there? I can't live like that. This forum REALLY helps to be able to share experiences.
The Doctors have been so useless, they think it is "mental" and / or that with one treatment they should magically dis-appear.
You have to go "Doctor Shopping" and build your stockpile of weapons till you have a good long supply, then launch the attack.
We use a 1 to 10 scale. 10 is itchy, 1 or Zero is not itchy. I was a 0 or a 1 for 2 weeks, then shot up to a 5 or 6 last week. Took the Ivermectin yesterday and back to a Zero.
Once again, starting the process of cleaning the sheets, and comforter, and bed, and EVERYthing. ugg.
Been there

United States

#26 Oct 8, 2006
Ask your vet for the topical product Revolution for dogs, it treats and controls sarcoptic mange. The Revolution product for cats might work for mange but it does not claim to. My vet said it probably will. My cats didn't scratch or show rash symptoms but my natural born rat killer cat's fur was falling out and he had lost weight. It's proceedure to treat everyone in the house(including pets).
Read this article, it's recent and informative.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/535253
I know it can't be good to use the treatments for scabies but you can't live with the mites. And you do have to treat with Ivermectin more than once, as with Permethrin. Permethrin and Ivermectin are the safest treatments. Eat healty, boosting your immume system is very important in the treatment for scabies. You can do a liver cleanse, exercise until you sweat and take saunas or steam baths to get the toxins, mites and their droppings out of your system. Put your good cloths and bedding away for awhile in those big heavy plastic bags. I wear flipflops and wash and dry them too. Wear thick cotton socks with shoes and wipe your shoes down. You have to kill every mite.
Been there

United States

#27 Oct 8, 2006
Don't forget to clean and vacuum your car!!! Wear latex gloves when you do your wash and clean the house.
All this sounds like too much but I've talked to people who have had to do all this and more.Sorry
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#28 Oct 8, 2006
Once again... "Been there" is right on the money.

Are you clean and clear of these mites now?
For how long?

I wouldn't wish this infestation on my worst enemy.

I have a LOT more respect for them now.
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#29 Oct 8, 2006
Whats funny is I did Ivermectin for me, my partner and the cats, cleaned everything.

Then repeated 8 days later.

Clear for over 2 weeks and they are back.

Do the eggs take that long to hatch? and maybe the Ivermectin doesn't kill them?
Maybe I should double dose the Ivermectin..
I've read where 400ug/kg instead of 200ug/kg is safe and recommended for some animals.

Fucking desperate man. I'm lucky, have resources and a years supply of Ivermectin.
Been There

United States

#30 Oct 8, 2006
Scabies in Phoenix wrote:
Once again... "Been there" is right on the money.
Are you clean and clear of these mites now?
For how long?
I wouldn't wish this infestation on my worst enemy.
I have a LOT more respect for them now.
Now I know what to wish on my worst enemy.
I'm not sure if I'm clean and clear. The vet and doc think I have post scabies. It's been a few weeks now and I'm still getting a few strange red spots, some tiny lines and some itching. I spilled some Revolution on myself when I was treating my dog. It might be working in my system to kill the mites as they hatch or mature.
The Ivermectin dose for my 125 weight is four tablets of 3mg. Your right, the Ivermectin does not kill the eggs or the young mites. Read the webpage I posted, it has that info. Be carefull with over dose. Talk to a pharmacy you trust. You have already put stuff on your skin and system so be carefull. Read the webpage about the life cycle (lifestyle!) of the mites.
According to the "professionals" the animal mite cannot be passed from person to person. But the animal mite can be passed to a person from the animal. And the mite will not live out it's life cycle on the person because it has adapted for thousands of years to live only on the dog or cat or rabbit or rat or whatever. So what they are saying is there is a rat mite, a rabbit mite, a bird mite, a human mite, a cat mite, a pig mite, a dog mite, etc. But what we do know is that now they all use Ivermectin to kill em.
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#32 Oct 9, 2006
If we take the Ivermectin once a week for 4 weeks, geez.. shouldn't that break the lifecycle?
The cats just show no symptoms at all, no shedding or excess itching or patchy fur. Nothing.
I know for fact that I got Human Scabies first (January 2006) along with my sexual partner who got it from a known source.
What's funny is we notice more symptoms on our heads. Creepy crawly sensations of little things scurrying about from the head, eyelashes and hairline.
I currently don't have any lesions, or burrow trails. I have NEVER been able to find one in my microscope.
Been there

San Diego, CA

#33 Oct 9, 2006
article on scabies. the webpage I posted before isn't coming up. try this one

http://www.emedicine.com/ped/topic2047.htm
Been there

United States

#34 Oct 9, 2006
Since January, you poor dear girl, that's terribe. I would think a dose a week for 4 weeks would break the cycle. As long as your not being reinfested. What's up with the boyfriend? Do you trust him? Where on his body did your boyfriend first get the scabies? How many treatments of Ivermectin have you taken so far?
As for the cats, according to experts, if you have human scabies your cats can get the mite but it can't live out it's life cycle on the cat. I'm still not convinced about this. But your cats have been treated and I think it's good to treat them too, regardless of lack of symptoms.

I got the mite from my dog and cat so I know I had sarcoptic mange. I did see a dead mite under a microscope from my body and one from my dog too. I also saw one crawl across my forehead when I was looking in a 7X magnifying mirror. Needless to say I freaked! I've never seen one since. I know they were on my face and hairline and I think that they moved there when I treated myself with Permethrin and didn't put it on my face or scalp the first few times.
Have your ruled out lice. I actually did two lice treatments on myself just to be sure but I'm certain I never had lice. I never found a nit.
Been there

United States

#35 Oct 9, 2006
Scabies in Phoenix wrote:
If we take the Ivermectin once a week for 4 weeks, geez.. shouldn't that break the lifecycle?
The cats just show no symptoms at all, no shedding or excess itching or patchy fur. Nothing.
I know for fact that I got Human Scabies first (January 2006) along with my sexual partner who got it from a known source.
What's funny is we notice more symptoms on our heads. Creepy crawly sensations of little things scurrying about from the head, eyelashes and hairline.
I currently don't have any lesions, or burrow trails. I have NEVER been able to find one in my microscope.
If your a guy, excuse me, or if your a girl with a partner, excuse me. I shouldn't have assumed.
s in eastpointe

Eastpointe, MI

#36 Oct 9, 2006
ok, tommrow morning 6am est. i will be up cleaning, cleaning tonight im going to soak in some borax acid and peroxide. i know it sounds crazy but i got the idea off this page. i will tell ya if it works. god i hope it does.the p med that the doc gave me seems to work, but i still feel itching. im soaking now c ya tommrow.
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#38 Oct 9, 2006
Oh.. geez thanks "Been there" add insult to injury..:)

By the way, when someone refers to their "partner"... that is code. Also, our initial infestation with the Scabies Mite is from a "Known Source".(also code)

I haven't ruled anything out, and have applied various Permithern treatments to the scalp and ran a nit comb through for good measure.

I was itchy and creepy crawly all day, about a 5 on a scale of 10. And I took a dose of Ivermectin on Saturday.

My new theory (There have been MANY).
Ivermectin kills live adults mites when they are IN the body. It will not kill those mites that are motoring about on my face and body. Perhaps it does not kill the eggs or very young mites whose nervous system is not online yet (got this from an online source).

I've used Ivermectin probably 6 times so far, through out the last 8 months. Most recently was Saturday the 7th of October, before that was Tuesday the 19th of September, before that on Monday the 11th of September.
Been there

United States

#39 Oct 9, 2006
Scabies in Phoenix wrote:
Oh.. geez thanks "Been there" add insult to injury..:)
By the way, when someone refers to their "partner"... that is code. Also, our initial infestation with the Scabies Mite is from a "Known Source".(also code)
I haven't ruled anything out, and have applied various Permithern treatments to the scalp and ran a nit comb through for good measure.
I was itchy and creepy crawly all day, about a 5 on a scale of 10. And I took a dose of Ivermectin on Saturday.
My new theory (There have been MANY).
Ivermectin kills live adults mites when they are IN the body. It will not kill those mites that are motoring about on my face and body. Perhaps it does not kill the eggs or very young mites whose nervous system is not online yet (got this from an online source).
I've used Ivermectin probably 6 times so far, through out the last 8 months. Most recently was Saturday the 7th of October, before that was Tuesday the 19th of September, before that on Monday the 11th of September.
I am sorry about my comments. I'm clueless about different relationships but I had a feeling after I wrote that I had screwed up. I get it now. It's just me, if I had a sexual partner I'd suspect cheating as a possible source of reinfestation.

I don't know, 6 times in 8 months should have killed em. Ivermectin killed all the mites on my dog. They seem to lay sleeping in the skin during the day and come out at dusk or when the body is warm. So they are inside the skin for a good part of the day. They are attracted to scent too. I'm at a loss as to why you have been hosting the mites so long. Could it post scabies? Or a reaction to the treatments? I really feel bad about what your going through, it's terrible. I wish I had the answer for you.
been there
Been there

United States

#40 Oct 9, 2006
Mee Too wrote:
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Hi Been there,
So what do you think works the best, the ivermectin injections for cattles, the "Heartgard chewable tablets" or the "Pour On Wormer" for cattle. There are so many to choose from the website that I was confused as to what to order. Plus I also need to see how much of it I need to take, I'll go to a pharmacist or something. Someone else had mentioned they were ready to jump into a volcano and I want to join them. Thank u soo much for all the information u have been providing us with;)
Well, I hope some information helps but I don't want you to think I'm recommending you use any treatments that are used on animals. The Ivermectin I'm referring to is available for humans as an off label treatment at the pharmacy. It has to be prescribed by a MD. I have talked to vets about what they use on large animals(horses, cattle, pigs) and they say it can cause death in humans. I know how desperate we get when we have scabies but Never use Ivermectin for cattle or animals on a person, it's MUCH too strong for humans. It's very dangerous to mess around with that. A oral Pill form Ivermectin is for humans, ask a pharamcy or doctor about the dose for your weight. It has to be prescribed and the doctor will know the dose. Please read all you can about Ivermectin and the other treatments for scabies. Be carefull!!! You could end up much worse than just having a spider from hell.

I posted a couple links for a webpage that has information. Surf the web and read all you can about scabies and the treatments.
Scabies in Phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#41 Oct 9, 2006
"Been There"..no worries, I thought is was funny. Believe me, I have bigger fish to fry.

It was a known extra-relationship event. There were other known hosts (human!) at the same time. They were able to erraticate and have been clean since (so they say...).

Since then both my partner and I are scared to even shake hands with any other people anymore.
1st time was cured, and there was a known re-infestation a month later which has been on and off since.

We've bounced back and forth between thinking Permitherin was the cure, then Ivermectin. I think we both realize the Tea Tree Oil is useless.

I suppose I could be crazy, but my partner has similar symptoms. Plus if we let it grow we develop a rash.

I think they know... like right now I'm on Ivermectin was really creepy-crawly today, like the mites were walking around on me. I put on 1% Permitherin cream from the store and just going to leave that on all nite. Its all I've got, don't have any 5% on hand.

So they know something is up and they bite extra hard when trying to burrow now.

If I am talking about this too much let me know. I think the more information the better and maybe someone will find something that will save them.
Zara25

Bydgoszcz, Poland

#42 Oct 10, 2006
Phoenix,
I'm affraid 1% permethrin will not help you.It' s too weak.Try this out- Elimite (contains permethrin(5 %)
and you can buy it here...
http://www.drugstore.com/qxdElimite_333181_se...
Good luck!

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