created by: Jesus Christ | Oct 15, 2012

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Taxman

Lexington, KY

#1 Oct 19, 2012
A real education is this

Excellent explanation of how taxes work.

OUR TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER:

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100...

If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

So, that's what they decided to do.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.“Since you are all such good customers,” he said,“I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.” Drinks for the ten men would now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men? The paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share? They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage.

They decided to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.

And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% saving).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% saving).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% saving).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% saving).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% saving).

Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.

“I only got a dollar out of the $20 saving,” declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man,“but he got $10!”
“Yeah, that's right,” exclaimed the fifth man.“I only saved a dollar too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!”
“That's true!” shouted the seventh man.“Why should he get $10 back, when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!”
“Wait a minute,” yelled the first four men in unison,“we didn't get anything at all. This new system exploits the poor!”

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls, journalists, and government ministers, is how our tax system works. The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas, where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
what

United States

#2 Oct 19, 2012
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Taxman

Lexington, KY

#3 Oct 19, 2012
what wrote:
what
wow!!! America is worse off than I thought
Pig Benis

Mount Washington, KY

#4 Oct 19, 2012
Taxman wrote:
<quoted text> wow!!! America is worse off than I thought
Huh?
Revelations

United States

#5 Oct 19, 2012
nice breakdown taxman bravo! Good luck getting any of these doofuses to get it though...hey piggy and what, read again, this time read it very slowly and maybe have your mom come in to help or dad.
Tsunami

Lexington, KY

#6 Oct 19, 2012
Jesus said to render to Caesar what is Caesar's. Jesus said to pay ur taxes. He cured the sick, so he cared about healthcare, he was a peace and love long haired hippie, walking around in sandals, talking about peace and love, and about caring for the poor. Jesus was a Socialist, not a bloodsuckin Capitalist.
Tsunami

Lexington, KY

#7 Oct 20, 2012
District 7 skool debate:
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Geez

United States

#8 Oct 20, 2012
Tsunami wrote:
Jesus said to render to Caesar what is Caesar's. Jesus said to pay ur taxes. He cured the sick, so he cared about healthcare, he was a peace and love long haired hippie, walking around in sandals, talking about peace and love, and about caring for the poor. Jesus was a Socialist, not a bloodsuckin Capitalist.
Jesus wasn't a socialist I don't think. What percentage of your income do you save? I hope your answer is none that you give it all away! By the way what is the limit on how much you should save so that I know when to stop? What are your numbers on this? I'm 53 what should I have right now or as socialist to make sure I follow in the foot steps of Jesus?
Tsunami

Lexington, KY

#9 Oct 20, 2012
Jesus said to give up all your worldly possessions... Im not that strict. I think u gotta be a capitalist in Amerika just to survive. 15% is tithe, generally speaking. But Im poor, so yeah, I'll make it to heaven on those terms at least. Im pretty sure Jesus was very communistic... the poor supposed to give their wealth to the church, and live in a commune w/ other poors who fell completely dependent on the church (since they would have to, since they got all their possessions).

Jesus was for paying taxes, and against the rich going to heaven, for the poor, and sick, and the muck of society, like prostitutes, and lepers, and tax collectors, and the like. So yeah, he was for the lumpenproletariet.
Geez

United States

#10 Oct 20, 2012
Tsunami wrote:
Jesus said to give up all your worldly possessions... Im not that strict. I think u gotta be a capitalist in Amerika just to survive. 15% is tithe, generally speaking. But Im poor, so yeah, I'll make it to heaven on those terms at least. Im pretty sure Jesus was very communistic... the poor supposed to give their wealth to the church, and live in a commune w/ other poors who fell completely dependent on the church (since they would have to, since they got all their possessions).
Jesus was for paying taxes, and against the rich going to heaven, for the poor, and sick, and the muck of society, like prostitutes, and lepers, and tax collectors, and the like. So yeah, he was for the lumpenproletariet.
Jesus also wants you to be a good steward with your money. So what is the number where you are considered wealthy ? Is it ok to save money or not for a future date? How much may I save! Please help me on this.thanks!
Tsunami

Lexington, KY

#11 Oct 20, 2012
Save all your money, and just pay your taxes, and be happy that your taxes are helping other people. What do yall pay, like 20%? Denmark has 80% tax rate. It aint that bad.
Geez

United States

#12 Oct 20, 2012
Tsunami wrote:
Save all your money, and just pay your taxes, and be happy that your taxes are helping other people. What do yall pay, like 20%? Denmark has 80% tax rate. It aint that bad.
we have hosted a lot of groups from Denmark the hate the taxes and it is bad for them they don't like it at all
Jelly Roll

Lexington, KY

#13 Oct 21, 2012
Denmark's the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Finland, and that other one is doing great too.
Your keeper

Lexington, KY

#14 Oct 24, 2012
Jelly Roll wrote:
Denmark's the happiest country in the world. Sweden, Finland, and that other one is doing great too.
yes they are really happy they work their asses off then as the years tick away they told me they saw all the lowlifes not working their share and becoming more and more bitter about it! The largest precentage of them want to move to the US where they can build a life from their efforts
Marilyn Monroe

Lexington, KY

#15 Oct 24, 2012
lol
Revelations

United States

#16 Oct 24, 2012
jesus told the richman to sell his things because that was what was most important to him, jesus wants us to prosper and responseably help the poor, not just dump your riches in a meth addicts lap, lol....jesus was not a socialist...socialism= charity from the barrel of a gun...and what comes of socialism? Irresponsable breeding and laziness abound.
Your keeper

Lexington, KY

#17 Oct 25, 2012
Revelations wrote:
jesus told the richman to sell his things because that was what was most important to him, jesus wants us to prosper and responseably help the poor, not just dump your riches in a meth addicts lap, lol....jesus was not a socialist...socialism= charity from the barrel of a gun...and what comes of socialism? Irresponsable breeding and laziness abound.
sorry your parents bred
Marilyn Monroe

Lexington, KY

#18 Oct 25, 2012
lol
Revelations

United States

#19 Oct 25, 2012
Your keeper wrote:
<quoted text> sorry your parents bred
there there you angry man, you had better learn to rejoice because end of days or not your time on earth is but a vapor, I know you hate me and the word of god, but it is what it is...I pray for your peace, because you sure dont sound peaceful at all.
Marilyn Monroe

Lexington, KY

#20 Oct 25, 2012
Cant we all get along?

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