Presbyterians clear way for ordaining...

Presbyterians clear way for ordaining gays, lesbians

There are 151 comments on the WisInfo story from May 14, 2011, titled Presbyterians clear way for ordaining gays, lesbians. In it, WisInfo reports that:

FRANKLIN, Ky. - Non-celibate gays and lesbians will become eligible for ordination in the Presbyterian Church following ratification of a constitutional amendment that reverses decades of official policy.

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Aida Lott

Jersey City, NJ

#102 Jun 29, 2011
scout wrote:
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you're SO ignorant.
helloooooooooooooooo.....?

Don't you even know your own mythology?

“Have no fear PappaSmurf's here”

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Since: Jun 11

Louisville, KY, USA, Earth

#103 Jun 29, 2011
Aida Lott wrote:
<quoted text>helloooooooooooooooo.. ...?

Don't you even know your own mythology?
I have noticed a lot of people on Topix have no problem ignoring facts and will never let truth get in their way. They hide behind anonymity.
scout

Castro Valley, CA

#104 Jun 29, 2011
Aida, are you talkin about your secular Satanistic reality?
Aida Lott

Jersey City, NJ

#105 Jun 29, 2011
scout wrote:
Aida, are you talkin about your secular Satanistic reality?
OH, puh-leez, Miss Thing. Get a grip.

I was talking about YOU. YOU called someone "ignorant" who corrected your stupid post, and I asked if you were familiar with your own mythology. How you can twist that around to be about my "secualr Satanistic (hahahahah) reality" is beyond desperate.
scout

Castro Valley, CA

#106 Jun 29, 2011
Aida Lott wrote:
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OH, puh-leez, Miss Thing. Get a grip.
I was talking about YOU. YOU called someone "ignorant" who corrected your stupid post, and I asked if you were familiar with your own mythology. How you can twist that around to be about my "secualr Satanistic (hahahahah) reality" is beyond desperate.
Oh, you're confused. The reality of Christ does not contain your Satanic mythological label, as you will soon discover. You certainly agree that your religion of secularism is the path, but that path is one of death and destruction.
Aida Lott

Jersey City, NJ

#107 Jun 29, 2011
scout wrote:
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Oh, you're confused. The reality of Christ does not contain your Satanic mythological label, as you will soon discover. You certainly agree that your religion of secularism is the path, but that path is one of death and destruction.
hahahahahahah

Reallity?

Let me know when you decide to come back to it.

"... as I will soon discover...????"
Really? How?
John

Salem, IN

#108 Jun 29, 2011
Scarecrow wrote:
Why do homosexuals always want to infiltrate Christian institutions ??? They want to be married to each other. Do they think we are going to love and respect them ???
Do you consider wearing your mother's panties gay?........I do, you sorry azz flamer!!

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Since: Jun 11

Louisville, KY, USA, Earth

#109 Jun 29, 2011
Aida Lott wrote:
<quoted text>hahahahahahah

Reallity?

Let me know when you decide to come back to it.

"... as I will soon discover...????"
Really? How?
Isn't it funny Aida Lott, it seems like Scout forgot about me 'cause he or she thinks you are the debil (as The Waterboy's momma calls it).

And before I get blasted for being insensitive I said he or she as in I don't know what Scout is and that has nothing to do with anything. People seem to jump on the littlest thing....
Aida Lott

Jersey City, NJ

#110 Jun 29, 2011
PappaSmurf wrote:
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Isn't it funny Aida Lott, it seems like Scout forgot about me 'cause he or she thinks you are the debil (as The Waterboy's momma calls it).
And before I get blasted for being insensitive I said he or she as in I don't know what Scout is and that has nothing to do with anything. People seem to jump on the littlest thing....
lol...... it's ok.... I can take it. I find all their "debil" talk quite amusing.
not understanding

White House, TN

#111 Jun 30, 2011
adam was created first eve second.... woman was created from the man for the man...God took a rib from man... and for the comment pastors do it all the time.ITS not right at all for a pastor to be gay and preach the gospel if there its kinda like a oxy moron type of thing...dont u think?

“Have no fear PappaSmurf's here”

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Since: Jun 11

Louisville, KY, USA, Earth

#112 Jun 30, 2011
not understanding wrote:
adam was created first eve second.... woman was created from the man for the man...God took a rib from man... and for the comment pastors do it all the time.ITS not right at all for a pastor to be gay and preach the gospel if there its kinda like a oxy moron type of thing...dont u think?
Ok first, Eve was not created second. She was created third.

Second, what does that have to do with a pastor being gay or not?
not understanding

White House, TN

#113 Jun 30, 2011
i was commenting on a post... and how u get third man then woman? and if say the heavens and earth first im meaning humankind

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Louisville, KY, USA, Earth

#114 Jun 30, 2011
not understanding wrote:
i was commenting on a post... and how u get third man then woman? and if say the heavens and earth first im meaning humankind
Me too, Adam, Lilith, Eve. Third.

“Alley Cat Blues”

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#115 Jun 30, 2011
not understanding wrote:
adam was created first eve second.... woman was created from the man for the man...God took a rib from man... and for the comment pastors do it all the time.ITS not right at all for a pastor to be gay and preach the gospel if there its kinda like a oxy moron type of thing...dont u think?
But everyone is a sinner, according to Christianity.

“Valley Of Death”

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The Kingdom of GOD Is At Hand

#116 Jun 30, 2011
Jupiter wrote:
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But everyone is a sinner, according to Christianity.
Yes they are. But we don't live in perpetual sin. Once we are born again we are a new being in Christ and the temple of the Holy Spirit. The sin of the body is then the greatest. We can NOT continue to live in that sort of sin if we are One with Christ. It is impossible.

JDW21

“Alley Cat Blues”

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#117 Jun 30, 2011
Judgment Day Watchman wrote:
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Yes they are. But we don't live in perpetual sin. Once we are born again we are a new being in Christ and the temple of the Holy Spirit. The sin of the body is then the greatest. We can NOT continue to live in that sort of sin if we are One with Christ. It is impossible.
JDW21
How do you feel about divorced, remarried people who attend church. Aren't they living in perpetual sin, according to Jesus Christ?
Aida Lott

Jersey City, NJ

#118 Jun 30, 2011
Judgment Day Watchman wrote:
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Yes they are. But we don't live in perpetual sin. Once we are born again we are a new being in Christ and the temple of the Holy Spirit. The sin of the body is then the greatest. We can NOT continue to live in that sort of sin if we are One with Christ. It is impossible.
JDW21
Is that right? Fascinating delusion..........

“Valley Of Death”

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The Kingdom of GOD Is At Hand

#119 Jun 30, 2011
Jupiter wrote:
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How do you feel about divorced, remarried people who attend church. Aren't they living in perpetual sin, according to Jesus Christ?
Doesn't matter how I feel. Only what God says in His Word, and even more important, what Jesus repeated.

If one divorces and remarries, it is adultery. The only exception given in the Bible is if ones spouse dies or fornication is an exclusion. Jesus even forbid divorce itself. So yes, that would be living in perpetual sin. I will tell you that as The Church has thrown out much of the Bible to accommodate sin, they have this also. So anyone that is condemning homosexuality as living in sin, and is divorced and remarried is a hypocrite.

There is a catch here though. We are not talking of homosexuality or gay marriage. We are talking about gay clergy. Celibacy means refraining from any sort of sexual activity, or even desire. That includes porn and such, not simply physical acts. Clergy is to be set aside from the congregation. They are to be as close to purity and sinlessness as mortal carnal man can come. That is why Paul says it is better to marry than to burn. Little play on words there.

JDW21
Aida Lott

Jersey City, NJ

#120 Jun 30, 2011
Judgment Day Watchman wrote:
<quoted text>
Doesn't matter how I feel. Only what God says in His Word, and even more important, what Jesus repeated.
If one divorces and remarries, it is adultery. The only exception given in the Bible is if ones spouse dies or fornication is an exclusion. Jesus even forbid divorce itself. So yes, that would be living in perpetual sin. I will tell you that as The Church has thrown out much of the Bible to accommodate sin, they have this also. So anyone that is condemning homosexuality as living in sin, and is divorced and remarried is a hypocrite.
There is a catch here though. We are not talking of homosexuality or gay marriage. We are talking about gay clergy. Celibacy means refraining from any sort of sexual activity, or even desire. That includes porn and such, not simply physical acts. Clergy is to be set aside from the congregation. They are to be as close to purity and sinlessness as mortal carnal man can come. That is why Paul says it is better to marry than to burn. Little play on words there.
JDW21
Oh puh-leez. How does one "refrain from desire?"

“Valley Of Death”

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The Kingdom of GOD Is At Hand

#121 Jun 30, 2011
Aida Lott wrote:
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Oh puh-leez. How does one "refrain from desire?"
The ways of this world are NOT the ways of God. When we are born again, we are born of the Spirit, not of carnal man. It can't be explained anymore than the mind or make-up of God can be explained. But had you known my life before and after the SPirit came upon me, it would be difficult for you not to see. And it had nothing to do with any ritual of The Church or of me. There is nothing we can do to earn salvation. It is a gift of God that we might be saved.

JDW21

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