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FAA ends 70-year ban on antidepressant use by pilots

There are 24 comments on the WHAS11 story from Apr 2, 2010, titled FAA ends 70-year ban on antidepressant use by pilots. In it, WHAS11 reports that:

Pilots taking medication for mild or moderate depression will soon be allowed in the cockpit under new Federal Aviation Administration guidelines that reverse a nearly 70-year ban.

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HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#1 Apr 2, 2010
The public safety is now compromised. No more flying for me.

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Paul

Allentown, PA

#2 Apr 2, 2010
wow you're ignorant
HumanSpirit wrote:
The public safety is now compromised. No more flying for me.
Violence, Deaths Murders and Suicides from mind drugs.
SSRI stories
http://ssristories.com/index.php
From petition. com
EFFEXSOR
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PROZAC Note: Sarafem chemical structure is same as prozac /
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Taper off Effexor XR to minimize withdrawal symptoms
Full story: Los Angeles Times
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effexor - longer term side effects
http://www.topix.com/forum/drug/effexor/TLLBS...
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Happy Flyer

Bangkok, Thailand

#3 Apr 3, 2010
HumanSpirit: "The public safety is now compromised. No more flying for me."

You apparently didn't read or understand the article and the reasons for the FAA decision.

If pilots are forbidden to fly while taking antidepressants, then depressed pilots are more likely to fly without treating their depression. Would that make you feel safer in the air?
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#4 Apr 4, 2010
Happy Flyer wrote:
HumanSpirit: "The public safety is now compromised. No more flying for me."
You apparently didn't read or understand the article and the reasons for the FAA decision.
If pilots are forbidden to fly while taking antidepressants, then depressed pilots are more likely to fly without treating their depression. Would that make you feel safer in the air?
The mental health industry is making a diagnoses on the physiological differences between the so called "mentally ill" and the "normal" without knowing what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" look like?" There is no test according to the APA but yet they manufactured the illness and provided the addicting drugs including to children less then threee years old and then used Reglan(A-anti-psychotic drug) on infants less then one week old for spitting up.

If we respect metabolic changes based on daily dietary habits, weight gain / loss, terms of the survival of the organisms as a person age along with physical conditioning, physical illness, electrolyte level, gender differences , body temperature, I don't see where the Mental Health and Counseling Industry could conform to any consistency in data with consideration to the above to state a person has a mental disease or illness based on chemical imbalance.

Besides, the mental health psychiatric diagnoses isn't even part of standard medical procedure known as the medical model in which all doctors are trained and is the only branch of medicine operating completely on political decisions and hearsay.

If an orthopedic surgeon operated on a patient without the aid of an X-ray, he would be working at the car wash the next day.

No Test for chemical imbalance

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1...

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/...

http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp...

There Are No "Chemical Imbalances"

"The hypothetical disturbances of neurochemical function that are said to underlie "mental illness" are just that: hypothetical. No experiment has ever shown that anyone has an "imbalance" of any neurotransmitters or any other brain chemicals. Nor could any conceivable experiment demonstrate the existence of a "chemical imbalance," simply because no one, least of all the biopsychiatrists, has the slightest idea what a proper and healthy chemical "balance" would look like."

"...the views and beliefs of biopsychiatry have nothing to do with the answers to scientific questions in any case: the hunt for biological "causes" of "mental illness" is an entirely fallacious enterprise in the first place; the non- existence of data to support its assertions is quite beside the point."

"The latest edition of one pharmacology text has this to say about the status of depression as a disease: "Despite extensive efforts, attempts to document the metabolic changes in human subjects predicted by these [biological] hypotheses have not, on balance, provided consistent or compelling corroboration." This is a long-winded way of admitting that not even a scrap of evidence supports the idea that depression results from a "chemical imbalance." Yet patients are told every day - by their doctors, by the media, and by drug company advertising - that it is a proven scientific fact that depression has a known biochemical origin. It follows directly that millions of Americans are being lied to by their doctors; and people surely can't give informed consent for drug treatment when what they're being "informed" by is a fraud.... To sum up: there is no evidence whatsoever to support the view that "mental illness" is biochemical in origin; in other words, things like "Unipolar Disorder" and "Attention Deficit Disorder" simply do not exist."

http://www.adhd-report.com/biopsychiatry/bio_...
HumanSpirit

Branford, FL

#5 Apr 5, 2010
A little more on the intrusion of the mental health industry and the heath and welfare of the society.

There is a large conspiracy to drug America going on.

Cartoon:

http://www.naturalnews.com/cartoons/mental_tr...

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Consider the drugging of children in the school system:

The State Department of Education gets monies from the Federal Government (Disability) under a program called "IDEA" for each child diagnosed with a disability. A disability could be ADD/ADHD, Bi-polar disorder, Depression or any of the other mental diagnoses.

Who profits: The State Department of Education, the mental health and counseling Industry, the Pharmaceutical company and the money that is kicked back by lobbyists for politicians special interest and of course the legal profession.

All this at the cost of your child's Health and welfare.

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Child psychiatry is sick with hidden conflicts of interest

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/12/1...

How about Bush's Mental Health Initiative for "Teen Screen"?

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Consider the military:

Baltimore Sun's article by Lisa Chedekel and Matthew Kauffman " Policies on mentally troubled troops questioned" is informative to the problems of psychotropic drug usage on the war front.

http://xml.dailypress.com/news/nationworld/ba...

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Are Veterans Being Given Deadly Cocktails to Treat PTSD?

A potentially deadly drug manufactured by pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca has been linked to the deaths of soldiers returning from war.

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100324080950rose...

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Most people have a trust and respect for airline pilots and the skill they have.

The pharmacutical / mental health industry is attempting to break that trust in a project that is dubbed "Drug America" that started with the H W Bush presidency in the late 1980's.

Pilots get a physical every year and so drug detection would be known.

I don't want to be in a Commerical plane with a pilot using anti-depressant drugs that is on the final approach (middle marker) and goes nuts.

I wouldn't want to live around a small airport. No place will be safe.

Death, violence and suicide by mind drugs

http://ssristories.com/index.php
HumanSpirit

Lexington, KY

#6 Apr 5, 2010
This fits right in with the Congressional Forced Mental Health Parity, Psychologist despensing mind drugs, The new mental health court, Teen Screen, and a handful of other intrusion to the health and welfare of the American public based on lies (chemical imbalance) from an industry that has no science, no medical model and no evidence based medicine.

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Medicated in the cockpit: FAA says pilots on psych drugs can fly commercial airliners

http://www.naturalnews.com/028514_antidepress...

NaturalNews) What would happen if the Columbine high school rampage shooters who were psyched out on mind-altering antidepressant drugs had been piloting a jet airliner instead? On Friday, the FAA issued a new rule that says pilots taking psychiatric medications are now allowed to pilot passenger airliners while medicated!

This "permission to fly while medicated" decision by the FAA covers pilots taking the antidepressant psychiatric drugs Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa and Lexapro. Not coincidentally, these are the same drugs that, in the minds of many industry observers, are linked to acts of aggression, suicide and mass murder. People on these drugs may simply lose touch with reality and feel like they're playing out a video game rather than acting out in the real world.

It begs the question: Why is the FAA putting medicated pilots in control of jet airliners? What happens if a psych drug medicated pilot suddenly thinks he's in a video game and aims his Boeing 767 at a civilian target "just for the fun of it?" Or what if he goes raving mad, strangles the copilot and then crashes the jet airliner nose-first into the ground?

While this kind of scenario may seem remote, you have to remember: It only takes one such event to cost the lives of hundreds of air passengers (and perhaps thousands of people on the ground).

Today, air travel is remarkably safe in terms of the number of fatalities per miles traveled. It's far safer than traveling in your car, in fact, and a fair amount of the credit for that safety belongs with the FAA. So why is the FAA now making a decision that seems, on its surface, to endanger the lives of air passengers by allowing psychiatric patients to pilot airplanes?

According to the FAA, the answer is because modern psychiatric drugs have fewer side effects. That seems like a political statement, not a medical conclusion, because the side effects that are experienced by a very small number of psychiatric medication users can be so whacked out that they can pose a very real danger to the lives of those around them. The majority of U.S. school shootings that we've seen over the last 15 years have been carried out by shooters taking psychiatric medications.

Antidepressants work no better than placebo
The other part of this story that the FAA seems to be missing is that for all but the most extreme cases of depression, antidepressant drugs have been scientifically proven -- through multiple clinical trials -- to work no better than placebo. These pilots would do just as well taking capsules filled with olive oil as they do on patented, monopoly-priced SSRI drugs. Yet despite the scientific reality that antidepressants are no better than placebo for the vast majority of patients, doctors continue to prescribe them and now the FAA has allowed these drugs into the cockpit. Er, excuse me, the "Flight Deck."

And this makes me wonder whether those pilot-narrated fly-over descriptions -- "On the left you can see Mt. St. Helens" -- will start to include hallucinogenic elements, too. "On the right, I see Santa Claus and his ten reindeer, about to pass under engine number four. Please fasten your seat belts while we take evasive action..."

Depression is a sign of another health problem
If a pilot suffers from depression, that's an indication that there's some other health problem they're dealing with: Usually cardiovascular disease of some kind.

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HumanSpirit

Lexington, KY

#8 Apr 5, 2010
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Keep psych drugs out of the flight deck (and out of Congress)
It seems an obvious point: Mind-altering psychotropic drugs should have no place on the flight deck. Most people who do not have ties to the pharmaceutical industry would agree with that.

At the same time, it's not just pilots who have responsibility for the lives of the people, is it? Members of the U.S. Congress are also making decisions that impact the lives (and livelihoods) of a far greater number of people than airline pilots. So why are most members of Congress doped up, psyched out and mass-medicated with dangerous pharmaceuticals, too?

In a recent video that has become an overnight YouTube sensation, U.S. Congressman Hank Johnson from the 4th district of Georgia actually claimed that putting too many people on the island of Guam would cause the island to tip over and capsize:
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Yes, you read that right: This former court judge who somehow got elected to Congress by Georgian voters, said flatly and without joking: "My fear is that the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize." To which the steadfast Admiral Willard paused in disbelief and then replied, without even a hint of sarcasm, "We don't anticipate that."

Congressman Hank Johnson is not a stupid person. His bizarre on-camera behavior can best be explained by medication side effects. Watch the video and you can see for yourself how he's barely able to stumble through an attempted description of the geography of the island of Guam. He is displaying classic symptoms of an overly-medicated Congressman!

Now you know how the recent health care reform bill got passed. Many of those who voted for it were so over-medicated with Big Pharma's mind-altering drugs that they had no concept of what they were voting for. This is especially ironic, given that they were voting for enforcing a monopoly medical system that would ensure even more mind-altering drugs being prescribed for the American people!

This is why I have publicly called for health standards for all members of Congress. Medicated members of Congress should not be allowed to vote! And that would throw out virtually all the bastards, wouldn't it?

I was thinking we could take all those Congresspeople who no longer meet the health standards and ship them off to Guam to see if it actually does tip over.

In fact, why not make a new reality TV show featuring former U.S. Congressmen running wild on the beaches of Guam -- and call it "The Tipping Point?"

Resources and sources for this story:
Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB200 ...

Hank Johnson's statements about Guam:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor ...

Help stop the madness of modern psychiatry. Support CCHR:
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HumanSpirit

Lexington, KY

#7 Apr 5, 2010
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Depression can also be brought on by vitamin D deficiencies or a diet lacking in omega-3 oils. Depression isn't simply an isolated "chemical imbalance in the brain," as the drug companies would like you to believe: It's a symptom of a much larger health challenge that almost always includes a cardiovascular component. So if a pilot suffers from depression, shouldn't that mean they need to reform their own personal health from the inside out rather than relying on a chemical agent to mask their symptoms?

I actually know a senior pilot for a major U.S. airline; a guy who flies the largest and most technical Boeing aircraft around. He's a member of the Life Extension Foundation and takes care of his health through exercise, fasting and daily nutritional supplementation. He's the kind of pilot I want behind the yoke because I believe that pilots have a special responsibility to be healthy and alert. I would not want to be a passenger on any airplane being piloted by a psychiatric patient medicated on Big Pharma's dangerous mind-altering drugs.

The difficulty, of course, is that you just don't know which pilot you're going to get on any given flight, nor what medications that person may be on. We've all seen the dangers of people who drive on the roads while medicated -- they are responsible for as many as one-third of all traffic accidents today! There's no question in my mind that allowing medicated pilots to fly commercial airliners is increasing the risk of an accident that could harm or kill the crew and passengers.

So I'm going to lay out a prediction here, and even though it may take years for this to come true, there's little doubt it's coming unless the FAA reverses its rules: There will be an airplane crash one of these days where the cause is not merely "pilot error" but actually medication-induced pilot error. Some pilot who is psyched out on antidepressant drugs might fly his plane into a building, mountain, ocean or other landscape feature, and the NTSB will recover the black boxes only to find that the pilot had gone stark raving mad minutes before impact. A little more investigation will reveal he was on psychiatric prescription medications.

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HumanSpirit

Lexington, KY

#9 Apr 5, 2010
We all know that Bush enacted the Medical Privacy Act in 2004. It was a dirty deal.

What the Medical Privacy Act did was to conceal the medical records from public knowledge of any defective product and wrong doing by the pharmacutical and medical profession to an individual. This encludes the mental health industry. There could be no satistics for the safety of the public.

If an airline accident was to happen because of a mind drugged pilot then there would be no knowledge of the pilots compromised state of mind because his records would be shielded from any public knowledge..

Death, Depression and Prozac

Jeff Weise, teen slayer of ten, including himself, at the Red Lake Indian reservation in northern Minnesota, was on Prozac, prescribed by some doc.

The minute the high command at Eli Lilly, manufacturer of Prozac, saw those news stories about Weise you can bet they went into crisis mode, and only began to relax when Weise's web surfs of neo-Nazi sites took over the headlines. Hitler trumps Prozac every time, particularly if it's an Injun teen ranting about racial purity.
How many times, amid the carnage of such homicidal sprees, do investigators find a prescription for antidepressants at the murder scene? Luvox at Columbine, Prozac at Louisville, Kentucky, where Joseph Wesbecker killed nine, including himself. You'll find many such stories in the past fifteen years.
By now the Lilly defense formula is pretty standardized: self-righteous handouts about the company's costly research and rigorous screening, crowned by the imprimatur of that watchdog for the public interest, the FDA. And of course there's the bogus comfort of numbers; if Lilly's pill factory had a big sign like McDonald's, it could boast PROZAC: MILLIONS SERVED.

More:

Pasted from http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050418/cockbur...
HumanSpirit

Lexington, KY

#10 Apr 5, 2010
Drugging kids and school violence

Believe it or not, there are now over 5 million school kids in America on psychotropic drugs, most of which are prescribed and administered by the schools themselves. That's the report we get from Kelly O'Meara, writing in Insight magazine on June 28. In addition, according to Teacher Magazine of December 1996, there are four million kids on Ritalin alone, one of the most powerful of the drugs now being given routinely to children in American schools.
What is most disturbing, however, is the growing awareness that the increased violence among school children may have more to do with the drugs than with the guns they use to carry out their violence. Yet, neither the president nor the Congress have addressed this aspect of the problem. Instead of going after the manufacturers of guns, why don't they go after the manufacturers of the drugs that are more than likely causing violent behavior among children?
We know, for example, that Eric Harris, 18, who, with his friend Dylan Klebold, murdered his fellow students at Columbine, had been taking Luvox, one of the new antidepressant drugs approved in 1997 by the Food and Drug Administration for treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorder, or OCD, among children under 18.
We also know that T. J. Solomon, 15, who shot and wounded six classmates at Heritage High School in Conyers, Ga., on May 20 was on Ritalin for depression. Shawn Cooper, 15, who fired two shotgun rounds, narrowly missing students and teachers at his high school in Notus, Idaho, was also on Ritalin, for bipolar disorder.
Kip Kinkel, 15, was on Ritalin and Prozac. He murdered his parents and then went on to school where he fired on students in the cafeteria, killing two and wounding 22. Also, we know that Mitchell Johnson, the 13-year-old student at Westside Middle School in Jonesboro, Ark., who mowed down several children and a teacher with his friend Andrew Golden, 11, was on some sort of medication since he was being treated by a psychiatrist.

more:

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp...
HumanSpirit

Lexington, KY

#11 Apr 5, 2010
Drugging the Military

Baltimore Sun's article by Lisa Chedekel and Matthew Kauffman " Policies on mentally troubled troops questioned" is informative to the problems of psychotropic drug usage on the war front.

http://xml.dailypress.com/news/nationworld/ba...

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Are Veterans Being Given Deadly Cocktails to Treat PTSD?

A potentially deadly drug manufactured by pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca has been linked to the deaths of soldiers returning from war.

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100324080950rose...

A potentially deadly drug manufactured by pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca has been linked to the deaths of soldiers returning from war. Yet the FDA continues to approve it.
Sgt. Eric Layne's death was not pretty.
A few months after being prescribed a drug cocktail with the antidepressant Paxil, the mood stabilizer Klonopin and AstraZeneca's controversial antipsychotic drug Seroquel, the Iraq war veteran was "suffering from incontinence, severe depression [and] continuous headaches," according to his widow, Janette Layne, at FDA hearings for new Seroquel approvals last year.
Soon he had tremors. " ...[H]is breathing was labored [and] he had developed sleep apnea," said Janette Layne, who served in the National Guard during Operation Iraqi Freedom along with her husband. On the last day of his life, she testified, Eric stayed in the bathroom nearly all night battling acute urinary retention. He died while his family slept.
Sgt. Layne had just returned from a seven-week inpatient program at the VA Medical Center in Cincinnati where he was being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). A video shot during that time, played by his wife at the FDA hearings, shows a dangerously sedated figure barely able to talk.
Sgt. Layne was not the first healthy veteran to die after being prescribed medical cocktails including Seroquel for PTSD.

more:

http://newsblaze.com/story/20100324080950rose...

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#12 Apr 5, 2010
i've seen both sides of anti-depressant use. i know people who have taken them for years and have never had a single problem. their lives are better and they enjoy themselves. however, i've seen people flip the f*ck out while taking anti-depressants. some people become angry, violent, suicidal, etc. i tried them for a while, and when one didn't work i was switched to another - about 15 total. every one i've ever taken has messed me up in very bad ways. i don't want to go into detail, but i will say that i am lucky i am alive and that i'm not locked up for life. that stuff just doesn't agree with me.

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#13 Apr 5, 2010
anti-depressants also cause horrible withdraw symptoms. i found that out during a trip to the ER.
thisisit

East Northport, NY

#14 Apr 8, 2010
and adverse reactions...

http://www.medsafetyinfo.com/

just fyi... you can search that site for safety info and drug reactions reported to the fda for ANY drug. please share this information with friends and family.
HumanSpirit

Live Oak, FL

#15 Apr 9, 2010
thisisit wrote:
and adverse reactions...
http://www.medsafetyinfo.com/
just fyi... you can search that site for safety info and drug reactions reported to the fda for ANY drug. please share this information with friends and family.
Prosoft's Adverse Drug Reaction Portal is based on adverse drug reaction reports filed with the FDA.
The FDA receives adverse drug reaction reports from manufacturers as required by regulation.

Pasted from < http://www.medsafetyinfo.com/about2.html> ;
benny

Anoka, MN

#16 Jun 16, 2010
As a pilot and ex user of SSRI's I will say this is a reciepe for disaster.
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Global 13

Silver Spring, MD

#18 Sep 24, 2013
Paul wrote:
wow you're ignorant
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spoken like a true sheep. In three words you put the brainwashed masses minds at ease as well as discredit the long thought out warning humanspirit has given. "Wow you're ignorant " such magical words.....moron

Texian

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#19 Sep 24, 2013
Human Sprit is RIGHT ON track! The ENTIRE psychology sector, INCLUDING THEIR DOPE, needs to be both deeply regulated AND relegated to being UNDER a REAL M.D. instead of the wacko pseudo-science it has become a MONSTER of...

Making a Killing: The Untold Story of Psychotropic Drugging ...



The Marketing of Madness: The Truth About Psychotropic Drugs....

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

How Psychiatric Drugs Can Kill Your CHILD!...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Texian

“One Nation, under God”

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#20 Sep 24, 2013
A TRUE MUST SEE ....

Psychiatry - An Industry of DEATH!!

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