Medical marijuana legalization push t...

Medical marijuana legalization push taking root in Kentucky

There are 146 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Jan 10, 2014, titled Medical marijuana legalization push taking root in Kentucky. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

Eric Crawford is a quadriplegic and suffers from glaucoma -- and he says his best medicine is marijuana.

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Guest

Alto, GA

#62 Mar 6, 2014
Retired SOB wrote:
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Don't sit there and tell me one is better then the other because you smoke lees dope then smokers smoke cigarettes! YOUR BODY ISN'T DESIGNED FOR EITHER!! Put down the joint and THINK before you write!
You would be much better off to quit posting and let people think you're stupid than to continue on proving it. You dumbass, I'm saying a tobacco smoker inhales more smoke from cigarettes in a day than the average dope smoker would in months. What a reasonable person would inhale from smoking weed would not add a meaningful amount to what we each already breathe every day.
Bud Good

Cantonment, FL

#63 Mar 6, 2014
Like The Man always said, "The only people that get really crazy about marijuana are the ones that don't use it, and don't think anyone else should, either."

A generalization, to be certain, yet strangely Truthful, all the same.
Dr Truth

Lexington, KY

#64 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>
For a long time people were unaware of germs!
True science only discovered germ about 100-150 years ago, but this goes to show you don't know any history. Because this statement contradicts your earlier one:
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>
HISTORY proves that alcohol was the cleanest substance people had to drink for centuries. Cleaner then the water which was full of bacteria that caused diseases like Cholera, Typhoid fever and Dysentery.
How would "History" show that people more than 100-150 years ago knew than alcohol was the cleanest substance to drink when they didn't even know that illness was caused by germs?
The answer is; they didn't. Just like the rest of your crap you pulled it out of your ass.

People drank water back then as their primary source, which is why the Black Plague was so bad. People kept dumping the dead bodies into their steams and rivers polluting their own drinking water making the disease that much worse.

Alcohol has always been drank as an INTOXICANT, ever since its creation "back in them there Jesus days". An it was also dirtier than most toilets at that time, because its not the same kind of alcohol that it is today. Most drinking alcohol is Ethanol(ethyl alcohol) produced by yeast, which in small amount is safe to drink.
However most ye ole spirits were made the same way as most modern illegal moonshine is with ends up containing methanol from the fermentation process, which in modern alcoholic beverages is filtered out.
Also modern drinks have had their concentration or proof, artificially raised through multiple distillation and filtration. Processes which were not available way back when.

So your old timey wines, beers and other hard liquors had tons of unhealthy chemicals, as well as particle of feces, dirt, and all kinds of other bacteria because the alcohol in those drinks was not strong enough to kill all of the germs.

Now what is used to sterilize equipment and clean wounds is Isopropyl alcohol. Both Isopropyl and Methanol will kill you or make you go blind from drinking less than an ounce.

Aclohol did not be come medically accepted until the 1870s,ironically after so many Civil War soldiers died because the doctors equipment was so filthy. Up until that point boiling water was the only thing used to disinfect. Isopropy AKA Rubbing alcohol didn't become a standard medical aid until the 1910s, and was scarce during the 1920s that to Prohibition, during which many desperate alcoholics dies from drinking everything from paint thinner, to oven cleaner to gasoline.

While I agree that pot, like alcohol is mostly just a crutch for stupid people, I also agree with Yolo that SOF is a stupid person.
Guest

Alto, GA

#65 Mar 7, 2014
Bud Good wrote:
Like The Man always said, "The only people that get really crazy about marijuana are the ones that don't use it, and don't think anyone else should, either."
A generalization, to be certain, yet strangely Truthful, all the same.
I agree and often they are alkies like SOF that pissed their brain cells away.
Anony-Miss

Lexington, KY

#66 Mar 7, 2014
A guest on topix..LMAO,get outta here loser boy!!

“TRIBALISM I refuse to play!”

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#67 Mar 7, 2014
you probably say yolo too wrote:
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So it's a historical fact that people only drank booze?
Booze played a big part in civilized society, its existence and survival. You can't say that with weed!

“TRIBALISM I refuse to play!”

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#68 Mar 7, 2014
Guest wrote:
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You would be much better off to quit posting and let people think you're stupid than to continue on proving it. You dumbass, I'm saying a tobacco smoker inhales more smoke from cigarettes in a day than the average dope smoker would in months. What a reasonable person would inhale from smoking weed would not add a meaningful amount to what we each already breathe every day.
The point I am trying to make is the hypocrisy between the tobacco industry and people wanting to legalize weed.

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#69 Mar 7, 2014
Dr Truth wrote:
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True science only discovered germ about 100-150 years ago, but this goes to show you don't know any history. Because this statement contradicts your earlier one:
<quoted text>
How would "History" show that people more than 100-150 years ago knew than alcohol was the cleanest substance to drink when they didn't even know that illness was caused by germs?
The answer is; they didn't. Just like the rest of your crap you pulled it out of your ass.
People drank water back then as their primary source, which is why the Black Plague was so bad. People kept dumping the dead bodies into their steams and rivers polluting their own drinking water making the disease that much worse.
Alcohol has always been drank as an INTOXICANT, ever since its creation "back in them there Jesus days". An it was also dirtier than most toilets at that time, because its not the same kind of alcohol that it is today. Most drinking alcohol is Ethanol(ethyl alcohol) produced by yeast, which in small amount is safe to drink.
However most ye ole spirits were made the same way as most modern illegal moonshine is with ends up containing methanol from the fermentation process, which in modern alcoholic beverages is filtered out.
Also modern drinks have had their concentration or proof, artificially raised through multiple distillation and filtration. Processes which were not available way back when.
So your old timey wines, beers and other hard liquors had tons of unhealthy chemicals, as well as particle of feces, dirt, and all kinds of other bacteria because the alcohol in those drinks was not strong enough to kill all of the germs.
Now what is used to sterilize equipment and clean wounds is Isopropyl alcohol. Both Isopropyl and Methanol will kill you or make you go blind from drinking less than an ounce.
Aclohol did not be come medically accepted until the 1870s,ironically after so many Civil War soldiers died because the doctors equipment was so filthy. Up until that point boiling water was the only thing used to disinfect. Isopropy AKA Rubbing alcohol didn't become a standard medical aid until the 1910s, and was scarce during the 1920s that to Prohibition, during which many desperate alcoholics dies from drinking everything from paint thinner, to oven cleaner to gasoline.
While I agree that pot, like alcohol is mostly just a crutch for stupid people, I also agree with Yolo that SOF is a stupid person.
The Black Plague was spread by the fleas on rats that followed the trade routes from Asia. The church suffered huge death rates because they were the only ones that would treat the sick. Contaminated water had little to nothing to do with it. You are right they didn't know about germs but when you drink ale and you are fine but drink the water and you almost die. It doesn't take a genius o figure it out! If you want to see stupid look in the mirror!
you probably say yolo too

United States

#70 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>The point I am trying to make is the hypocrisy between the tobacco industry and people wanting to legalize weed.
What hypocrisy is there it's proven cigarettes kill people, how many people have died from weed?
you probably say yolo too

United States

#71 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>The Black Plague was spread by the fleas on rats that followed the trade routes from Asia. The church suffered huge death rates because they were the only ones that would treat the sick. Contaminated water had little to nothing to do with it. You are right they didn't know about germs but when you drink ale and you are fine but drink the water and you almost die. It doesn't take a genius o figure it out! If you want to see stupid look in the mirror!
Dumb du-du-DU dumb Du-du-du-duuuuumb.

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#72 Mar 7, 2014
you probably say yolo too wrote:
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What hypocrisy is there it's proven cigarettes kill people, how many people have died from weed?
Has smoking dope been studied the same way as smoking cigarettes? Do you really need a study to tell you that inhaling smoke of any type is good or bad for you? Are you that f*cking na´ve? Are you that much of a partisan hack it has to be your way or the highway and not THINK before we do something that we could regret in 10 plus years?
you probably say yolo too

United States

#73 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>Has smoking dope been studied the same way as smoking cigarettes? Do you really need a study to tell you that inhaling smoke of any type is good or bad for you? Are you that f*cking naïve? Are you that much of a partisan hack it has to be your way or the highway and not THINK before we do something that we could regret in 10 plus years?
You should use that same logic when it comes to being at war with other countries. And yes marijuana is study as much if not more than cigarettes.

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#74 Mar 7, 2014
you probably say yolo too wrote:
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You should use that same logic when it comes to being at war with other countries. And yes marijuana is study as much if not more than cigarettes.
It is a little late to think before you act when you have 4 airplanes turned into cruise missiles. Oh, but I forgot, you don't see a terrorist attack as an act of war.
Show me the studies, I want to see the link and read for myself. You can't sit there and expect me to believe smoking dope is good for you! Smoking ANYTHING isn't good for you!
Guest

Alto, GA

#75 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>
The point I am trying to make is the hypocrisy between the tobacco industry and people wanting to legalize weed.
You have simply changed the subject because no one has said weed is good for you. It's simply not as bad as many other things that people enjoy daily. For instance: cigarettes, alcohol, processed food, food cooked on charcoal, salty food, water that the city of Maysville pumps from the Ohio RIver, driving too slow, driving too fast, driving on snow, breathing city air, breathing country air, riding motorcycles, riding horses, riding atvs, water skiing, snow skiing, bungee jumping, parachuting from perfectly good airplanes, living in earthquake areas, living in areas susceptible to hurricanes, hunting with bows, hunting with guns.
We could go on forever but making marijuana illegal because it's not good for you is hypocrisy in it's purest form. Our government has legalized some of the most immoral activities imaginable. They haven't made marijuana illegal because they believe it's immoral. Our laws are passed by some of the most immoral persons on the face of the earth.
Follow the money. The government and drunken, red-faced politicians get rich off of alcohol taxes, permits, and bribes. They have no way of taxing what you or I could grow in our own back yard. They didn't care how much the commoners smoked as long as they made money off of tobacco. Due to more and more government programs becoming available that treat moochers for tobacco related illnesses tobacco started costing more than they made.
you probably say yolo too

United States

#76 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>It is a little late to think before you act when you have 4 airplanes turned into cruise missiles. Oh, but I forgot, you don't see a terrorist attack as an act of war.
Show me the studies, I want to see the link and read for myself. You can't sit there and expect me to believe smoking dope is good for you! Smoking ANYTHING isn't good for you!
What's the point of posting a link, it involves reading.
you probably say yolo too

United States

#77 Mar 7, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>It is a little late to think before you act when you have 4 airplanes turned into cruise missiles. Oh, but I forgot, you don't see a terrorist attack as an act of war.
Show me the studies, I want to see the link and read for myself. You can't sit there and expect me to believe smoking dope is good for you! Smoking ANYTHING isn't good for you!
And we all know you're not very good at reading
Dr Truth

Lexington, KY

#78 Mar 8, 2014
Retired SOF wrote:
<quoted text>
The Black Plague was spread by the fleas on rats that followed the trade routes from Asia. The church suffered huge death rates because they were the only ones that would treat the sick. Contaminated water had little to nothing to do with it. You are right they didn't know about germs but when you drink ale and you are fine but drink the water and you almost die. It doesn't take a genius o figure it out! If you want to see stupid look in the mirror!
You need to study history instead of just googleing and reading the first sentence of what ever pops up.
The dead bodies of plague victims were dumped into to rivers streams and ditches.
http://uhavax.hartford.edu/bugl/histepi.htm
Another contributing factor was that they killed all the cats, allowing the rat population to thrive.
You really need to study some of these things o you don't show everyone how little you really know.
Dr Truth

Lexington, KY

#79 Mar 8, 2014
Guest wrote:
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They have no way of taxing what you or I could grow in our own back yard. They didn't care how much the commoners smoked as long as they made money off of tobacco. Due to more and more government programs becoming available that treat moochers for tobacco related illnesses tobacco started costing more than they made.
This is a falsehood as Washington, Colorado, California, Alaska, Vermont and all the other states that allow pot tax it. How, buy simply applying the all reading existing tax laws for any crop.
And While they radicals, do not legalize it is because of religion and such, the rational and intelligent people don't legalize it because there is no reason to, its an obsolete crop.
Even here in Kentucky where Hemp is now legal to be grown and used for all the "industrial" and "medical" uses, the Pro-legal crowd is still angry simply because they can't use it to get high.
The love to lie and give false reasons and BS claims like yours for why its not legalized, but in the end they are just pathetic stoners who want to get high rather than get a job.
you probably say yolo too

United States

#82 Mar 8, 2014
Dr Truth wrote:
<quoted text>This is a falsehood as Washington, Colorado, California, Alaska, Vermont and all the other states that allow pot tax it. How, buy simply applying the all reading existing tax laws for any crop.
And While they radicals, do not legalize it is because of religion and such, the rational and intelligent people don't legalize it because there is no reason to, its an obsolete crop.
Even here in Kentucky where Hemp is now legal to be grown and used for all the "industrial" and "medical" uses, the Pro-legal crowd is still angry simply because they can't use it to get high.
The love to lie and give false reasons and BS claims like yours for why its not legalized, but in the end they are just pathetic stoners who want to get high rather than get a job.
Your claims are bs, I work harder than anyone on this thread and at the end of the day instead of poisoning my body with crap like alcohol I choose to smoke pot. Nobody has the right to tell an adult what he or she can do when it comes to drugs.
Dr Truth

Nicholasville, KY

#83 Mar 8, 2014
Last KY doctor wrote:
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I spoke with about medical use of cannabis, not to mention any names, Dr. Samuel Gehring... said marijuana (cannabis) has no medicinal value.... Seems like a bunch of other
Dr.'s and states don't seem to agree. i always heard it was one of the oldest medications known to man... KY needs better Dr.'s to stand up to the law enforcement agencies and judicial system who insist on crippling our medical system to lessen their workloads. It's a go for recreational cannabis use in KY!!! Gives the population better work than coal mining and dying from black lung disease at a ripe young age.
You like so many others are spuriously misquoting. Dr.Gehring said: "SMOKING marijuana (cannabis) has no medicinal value". Which all organized an unbiased studies have actually proven. You might want to put down the propaganda and try reading the facts.

Do you know that REAL medicinal marijuana is? Its a product called Marinol, its given to to people with seizures, glaucoma, and cancer because it stimulates the same effects of activating appetite, reducing nerve swelling, and elevating nausea and its made from SYNTHESIZED CANNABIDIODS. Its covered by all insurance plans and is cheaper make and buy than Pot.
The only difference between Marinol and actual cannabis? Marinol contains NO THC, meaning you do not get high from it, and that is why the Pro-legalize crowd never talks about it.
Thus Marinol makes Marijuana OBSOLETE for medicinal use.

Also you heard WRONG about pot being a medicine. Hashish, Middle Easter term for pot, was used as an intoxicant like opium to get religious fanatics high and carry out suicide missions on crusaders. They were called Hassassins, from which we get the term Assassin.
In the America's Indian Shamans would use pot, not as a medicine but to get high and experience visions. Marijuana has never been used as a medicine by anyone, the only "records" of its being "one of the oldest medicine is in the works of pure fiction dreamed up by stoners to try to clover up their real motives.
All anthropological evidence shows cannabis plants being used, mostly in religious ceremonies, as an intoxicant to get high.
Just stop lying to people and tell the truth; which is you DO NOT give a shit about medical or industrial uses, you JUST WANT TO GET HIGH.

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