created by: John Masters | Dec 29, 2012

Louisville, KY

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Which KYian Is The Bloodiest Mass Murderer?

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  • Donald Harvey
  • Michael Carneal
  • Rod Ferrell
  • Charles Manson
  • Zachary Taylor
  • Henry Watterson
  • Daniel Boone
  • Isaac Shelby
  • Abraham Owen
  • Hugh McGary
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1 - 15 of 15 Comments Last updated Aug 16, 2013
John Masters

Lexington, KY

#1 Dec 29, 2012
Hugh McGary was definitely one of the worst psychopaths out there. He once tomahawked an Indian to lil pieces, and then fed him to his dogs. But the brutality of Zachary Taylor knows no bounds... as a stooge for James Polk's War of Land acquisition and occupation, he slayed Mexicans, just as Boone slayed Indians, only more so, much more so, in order to steal their land, just as Boone had done b4 him, to make way for him to grow up in Louisville, Kentucky, where Zachary Taylor is from, was raised, and is buried.
Mike Oxlong

Georgetown, KY

#2 Jan 2, 2013
I may not be a murderer but I have spilled some blood. Usually from a sweet hymen though.
John Masters

Lexington, KY

#3 Jan 2, 2013
Nasty...
Guy Fawkes

Lexington, KY

#4 Jan 3, 2013
Charlie Manson, from Kentucky, actually murdered... nobody. And yall locked him up for his entire life. Whose the psycho now, society?
Armilus Dajjal

Georgetown, KY

#5 Jan 4, 2013
Guy Fawkes wrote:
Charlie Manson, from Kentucky, actually murdered... nobody. And yall locked him up for his entire life. Whose the psycho now, society?
I thought he was born in Cincy and his mom was from Ashland? If we hadn't locked him up he would be dead by now.
Tecumseh

Lexington, KY

#6 Jan 4, 2013
U think so? Maybe so... maybe not... if we treated him like a person, I think he'd be better... like, u know, not locking him up until he was dead. Yeah, he did kill the 1960s, and the murders his underlings did were heinous, but he didn't do it, and to keep an old man in prison is ridiculous. Look how they do prisoners in Sweden, and the countries which treat their people right.
Tecumseh

Lexington, KY

#7 Jan 4, 2013
ALSO, he was born in Kentucky. Ashland is Kentucky. He was born in Cincy, but raised in Appalachia, w/ his Uncle Jesse, who burned down his moonshine still, b4 he was killed/committed suicide, and he's also the one who told Charlie to burn down the school... since "we're rebels boys, and we'll always be rebels">
Armilus Dajjal

Georgetown, KY

#8 Jan 4, 2013
I am just guessing he would be dead of course. I say that for a couple of reasons. One is given his life style before prison I doubt that he would have lived to be very old with the easier access to drugs on the outside. The other part is he had pissed off some serious people in the narcotics trade in the area. It eventually would have come back around.

It kind of doesn't matter because it doesn't bother him to be locked up. At least not anymore. He has become institutionalized. He had spent most of his life locked up before that anyway. I'm not saying our justice system is good because it sure as hell isn't. I just don't know how much we could have really helped in this case. I read about his background growing up. It didn't sound like the guy had much of a chance. In an interview once they asked "Who are you exactly?" Charlie's response was "Nobody". I think that sums it up if you think about it. If he hadn't got the press for the Sharon Tate thing we would have forgotten about him by now and he would be a "nobody."

I have no emotion invested in it since it was so far before my time. I just know what I've read. Because of that I have never really thought of him as all that threatening. I'm just not scared of 5'3 nearly 80 year old men. I can't think of anyone that is 80 that is a threat to me.
John Masters

Lexington, KY

#9 Jan 4, 2013
Dont get me wrong, Charlie Manson was a bad guy, but how society is treating him isn't better... AND comparable to the list above, Manson murdered NOBODY, whereas Watterson slaughtered a whole pile of blacks at Fort Pillow, rode w/ Nathan Bedford Forrest at Fort Pillow... where 300 black folks were savagely murdered... not b/c they were troops, but b/c of the color of their skin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fort_P... then there's Hugh McGary, whose worse than Manson, since he hacked an Indian into pieces, and then fed it to his dogs, and Rod Ferrell, the Kentucky man who thought he was Vesago, a 5,000 year old Vampire, who murdered some old people in cold blood, and then there's Michael Carneal, the white boy who made skool shooting popular and cool, pre-Columbine, who shot up a group of girls in prayer, and then there's Donald Harvey, from Booneville, Ky, who was a nurse, but was able to kill over a 100, or 2, b/c nobody was paying attention, would ever suspect a nurse had psychopathic, murderous tendencies... but low and behold! So compare Kentucky's Charlie Manson to Rod Ferrell, or Donald Harvey, or Zachary Tayler, or Abraham Owen, or a despicable beast of a savage, Henry Watterson, and there's no comparison. Henry Watterson makes Charlie Manson look like the Virgin Queen herself.
Armilus Dajjal

Georgetown, KY

#10 Jan 5, 2013
When you said that I remembered who Donald Harvey was. He was the Angel of Death. I agree with you about Charlie. The media portrays him as Satan himself.
John Masters

Lexington, KY

#11 Jan 5, 2013
Manson's image ruined the 60s. There was peace, love, unity, and freedom on the streets, but Nixon's "Law and Order" campaign won the election, b/c of Charlie... or at least the media's portrayal of him... and Charlie fed into that image. I think the media and the public, and rightfully so, was afraid of Charlie, and his "race war plan". He wanted the murder of Sharon Tate to be so heinous, that it was thought that black folks did it, and that would ignite a race war.

I know way too much about this, but it seems to me, that we need to talk about society's monsters, if we are being serious about making sure they aren't ever created again. And there's many reasons why Charlie is the way he is. He never had a chance. He was born a bastard, to a young, party hard momma, like a Casey Anthony type, and his real father wanted nothing to do w/ him... whoever "Colonel Scott" is.

Charlie Manson was raised by a crazy Confederate Appalachian hillbilly who told him to blow the school up, and he did, at least that what he said in an interview, when he was talking about his upbringing in the backwoods of Kentucky. So he blows the school up, since his Uncle Jesse told him that "We don't believe in government schools boy. The War's not over. We're still Rebels." Then later on, Uncle Jesse blew up his moonshine still, and killed himself, to prevent the authorities from getting him. So having those experiences as a youth, blowing up a school, having the only father figure he had, kill himself, after imposing his insane ideology on little Charlie.

THEN, he was shuffled around, here and there, not having a place to call his own. The first charge he got, was forging his name on a check, for a small amount, and they sent him to juvenile prison, where he was mocked, raped, and brutalized. He ran away several times, and so they kept transferring him to different prisons. Once he was marked as a criminal, it was over for him. He basically grew up in juvenile prison... he grew up in jail. Jail is where he learned to be violent, and sadistic, and to not care for anybody else, since nobody ever cared about him. The institutions of society also created Charlie Manson. Putting Manson into a boy's prison, over check forgery is ridiculous enough, nor is it justice, but that completely altered everything about Charlie. It wasn't fair. Then Charlie goes out to California, establishes a cult, from his charisma, and the rest is history. He wanted to shock society, and the media needed a Devil figure poster boy to rail against, so they both used each other.

The system is supposed to be set up to were a man can change, and love is the only way you can bring somebody full of hate, or revengeful, or crazy, back to civilization, back to sanity, and decency. Love doesn't always work, but it's the only thing that will work. Charlie lived his whole life in prison. It also makes martyrs of evil men. As does the death penalty. Charlie Manson was mean, started a cult, but he didn't actually commit the murders, and he never had a chance to begin with.

So what Charlie Manson teaches us, is that we shouldn't let our prison industrial complex raise our children for us. Orphans and those who on the margins of society need to be taken care of. The lumpenproletariet can only be alienated so much, before they imagine a Sharon Tate race war plan, and put it into action. Charlie Manson also teaches us how difficult it is for single mothers to raise a child, especially when Daddy war bucks doesn't claim him. And of course, his insane racist Confederate Rebel uncle had an effect too. Then combining all those elements together—being raised by a psycho, having crappy parents, and then being raped, brutalized, tortured, and humiliated on a daily basis in juvenile prison, over a petty crime—is how a Charlie Manson is created, and thusly also, those are the same elements in society we need to destroy, in order to prevent another Charlie Manson from being created.
John Masters

Lexington, KY

#12 Jan 5, 2013
Manson ruined the 60s. There was peace, love, unity, and freedom on the streets, but Nixon's "Law and Order" campaign won the election, b/c of Charlie... or at least the media's portrayal of him... and Charlie fed into that image. I think the media and the public, and rightfully so, was afraid of Charlie, and his "race war plan". He wanted the murder of Sharon Tate to be so heinous, that it was thought that black folks did it, and that would ignite a race war.

I know way too much about this, but it seems to me, that we need to talk about society's monsters, if we are being serious about making sure they aren't ever created again. And there's many reasons why Charlie is the way he is. He never had a chance. He was born a bastard, to a young, party hard momma, like a Casey Anthony type, and his real father wanted nothing to do w/ him... whoever "Colonel Scott" is.

Charlie Manson was raised by a crazy Confederate Appalachian hillbilly who told him to blow the school up, and he did, at least that what he said in an interview, when he was talking about his upbringing in the backwoods of Kentucky. So he blows the school up, since his Uncle Jesse told him that "We don't believe in government schools boy. The War's not over. We're still Rebels." Then later on, Uncle Jesse blew up his moonshine still, and killed himself, to prevent the authorities from getting him. So having those experiences as a youth, blowing up a school, having the only father figure he had, kill himself, after imposing his insane ideology on little Charlie.

THEN, he was shuffled around, here and there, not having a place to call his own. The first charge he got, was forging his name on a check, for a small amount, and they sent him to juvenile prison, where he was mocked, raped, and brutalized. He ran away several times, and so they kept transferring him to different prisons. Once he was marked as a criminal, it was over for him. He basically grew up in juvenile prison... he grew up in jail. Jail is where he learned to be violent, and sadistic, and to not care for anybody else, since nobody ever cared about him. The institutions of society also created Charlie Manson. Putting Manson into a boy's prison, over check forgery is ridiculous enough, nor is it justice, but that completely altered everything about Charlie. It wasn't fair. Then Charlie goes out to California, establishes a cult, from his charisma, and the rest is history. He wanted to shock society, and the media needed a Devil figure poster boy to rail against, so they both used each other.

The system is supposed to be set up to were a man can change, and love is the only way you can bring somebody full of hate, or revengeful, or crazy, back to civilization, back to sanity, and decency. Love doesn't always work, but it's the only thing that will work. Charlie lived his whole life in prison. It also makes martyrs of evil men. As does the death penalty. Charlie Manson was mean, started a cult, but he didn't actually commit the murders, and he never had a chance to begin with.

So what Charlie Manson teaches us, is that we shouldn't let our prison industrial complex raise our children for us. Orphans and those who on the margins of society need to be taken care of. The lumpenproletariet can only be alienated so much, before they imagine a Sharon Tate race war plan, and put it into action. Charlie Manson also teaches us how difficult it is for single mothers to raise a child, especially when Daddy war bucks doesn't claim him. And of course, his insane racist Confederate Rebel uncle had an effect too. Then combining all those elements together—being raised by a psycho, having crappy parents, and then being raped, brutalized, tortured, and humiliated on a daily basis in juvenile prison, over a petty crime—is how a Charlie Manson is created, and thusly also, those are the same elements in society we need to destroy, in order to prevent another Charlie Manson from being created.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#13 Aug 13, 2013
Hugh McGary was an absolute savage. You want to point at Indian's atrocities... how's Hugh McGary's actions and behavior than Chief Doublehead's or Chief Butterfly's? It's not... in fact, it's worse. It was asymmetrical warfare.
ZGS

Parkville, MD

#14 Aug 16, 2013
I would agree that maybe everyone should go digging up all these bad guys graves to see if the find a treasure. Everytime you turn aroundyou hear about people diging up or just so happenly finding Indian artifacts. Then after digging up a few graves and totaling a spot of sacret ground go public and look everybody I just invaded the Indians again. Everyday people are robbing the graves, Why don't they go to cave hill cemetary and start digging up all the graves there. They might discover a necklace of even a wedding ring and proclaim that white people were really buried there.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#15 Aug 16, 2013
lol You're funny. But it's true too. The Indians will never be left to rest in peace. That's why they should rise!

All of these above-listed KYians are evil as evil can be.

Zachary Taylor was killing Mexicans. Watterson was killing blacks at Fort Pillow with Nathan Bedford Forrest. Daniel Boone and Isaac Shelby were well known Indian killers. By comparison, Michael Carneal's slaying of 4 little praying Christian girls isn't as barbaric as Taylor, Boone, Shelby, and Watterson were... there's no comparison. 1,000s of dead bodies is worse than 4. AND, nobody seriously considered Michael Carneal to be a hero of Kentucky, unlike Taylor, Boone, Shelby, and Watterson... when all you're money has faces of mass murderers on it, and over half of the United States are named after Indians, and over half of Kentucky counties are named after Indian killers... you know there's gonna be problems, in this Dark and Bloody state.

With violence like this, you'd expect 5 year olds to be shooting 2 year olds.

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