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Since: Jan 09

Louisville, KY

#1 Jan 6, 2009
Does anyone have anything to say about the current state of the KY DOC?

“Ave Satanas”

Since: Dec 06

Bratislava, Slovakia

#2 Jan 7, 2009
Department of Corrections ?

Since: Jan 09

Shelbyville, KY

#3 Jan 7, 2009
triple6vamp wrote:
Department of Corrections ?
Yes. Kentucky Department of Corrections.
dynamo hum

United States

#4 Jan 7, 2009
whas wrote:
Does anyone have anything to say about the current state of the KY DOC?
well lets see ,they use to get 5% increments every year , then they cut them to 2%.then about 3 years ago they cut it to 1%,now they want state employees to take a 3 day furlow which will eliminate the piddly ass 1%. now theres talk of 24 day furlow . the 3 days would be devestating considering the pay is pathetic ,but 24 days would put some employees on the streets .
it use to be ,you had to go to frankfort to take a test on corrections and be in the top 5 to qualify for an interview . all that is now elimanated all you have to do now is apply on line ,with no experience or qualifications and the job is yours .because of this ,the quality of people they hire are worse than the inmates theirselves , bootom line ' you use to have to score good on a test AND have a current or prior military background .but NOW all you have to is be able to breathe . so you ask me about the state of the DOC its a damm joke ,it has gone right in the toilet and getting worse......
dynamo hum

United States

#5 Jan 7, 2009
and by the way ,im talking about state corrections . dont know about jefferson county corrections 'im sure it isnt much better
dynamo hum

United States

#6 Jan 7, 2009
dynamo hum wrote:
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well lets see ,they use to get 5% increments every year , then they cut them to 2%.then about 3 years ago they cut it to 1%,now they want state employees to take a 3 day furlow which will eliminate the piddly ass 1%. now theres talk of 24 day furlow . the 3 days would be devestating considering the pay is pathetic ,but 24 days would put some employees on the streets .
it use to be ,you had to go to frankfort to take a test on corrections and be in the top 5 to qualify for an interview . all that is now elimanated all you have to do now is apply on line ,with no experience or qualifications and the job is yours .because of this ,the quality of people they hire are worse than the inmates theirselves , bootom line ' you use to have to score good on a test AND have a current or prior military background .but NOW all you have to is be able to breathe . so you ask me about the state of the DOC its a damm joke ,it has gone right in the toilet and getting worse......
ohhhhhhh and then they wonder why they cant keep employees , as a former employee hows this for a kick in the ass .at christmas time they give employees 15 dollar kroger cards while at the same time every damm inmate gets 10 dollars put on their books for being nothing more then convict that sold your kids drugs or robbed your store' or like the thug that ran from the police and killed 2 little girls in the process ;isnt that nice of the state,heres an idea assholes ,you wanna save money HOW BOUT YOU CUT THAT CRAP OUT .10 dollars for every convict in the state goes a long way it adds up .i say END IT

Since: Nov 08

MC

#7 Jan 7, 2009
dynamo hum wrote:
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ohhhhhhh and then they wonder why they cant keep employees , as a former employee hows this for a kick in the ass .at christmas time they give employees 15 dollar kroger cards while at the same time every damm inmate gets 10 dollars put on their books for being nothing more then convict that sold your kids drugs or robbed your store' or like the thug that ran from the police and killed 2 little girls in the process ;isnt that nice of the state,heres an idea assholes ,you wanna save money HOW BOUT YOU CUT THAT CRAP OUT .10 dollars for every convict in the state goes a long way it adds up .i say END IT
that is a bunch of bull. inmates get christmas presents??? wtf! do they get chocolates for valentines day too?
dynamo hum

United States

#8 Jan 8, 2009
-jackinthebox- wrote:
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that is a bunch of bull. inmates get christmas presents??? wtf! do they get chocolates for valentines day too?
ohhhh they get pizza partys from time to time . and hows this ,if they take their GED while incarcerated and pass it 'they get 150 dollars for passing it,what do you and me get for passing ours ? you asked about chocolates , well lets just say they get one hell of a nice thanksgiving and christmas dinner every year . needless to say most of them take their GED while in there ,and i assure you it has not a damm thing to do with wanting to better theirself ,150 dollars goes a hell of a long way in prison ,its just like the SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROGRAM most prisons have now , you talk about a damm joke , its a voluntary program ,and guess what' they get paid to attend it ,it aint much but its money that could go for much better things PLUS if theyt make it thru the 6 month program they get time knocked off their sentance ,lots of it, NOW how many of them do you think take this program to better theirself for when they get out. NOT A DAMM ONE ,because they get out 'and boom its right back in the system they go,what a fckn joke and waste of money

“Ave Satanas”

Since: Dec 06

Bratislava, Slovakia

#9 Jan 8, 2009
Dont they havta pay to be locked up ? Its like that in bullitt county,its not much I dont think $15 a week.
dynamo hum

United States

#10 Jan 8, 2009
triple6vamp wrote:
Dont they havta pay to be locked up ? Its like that in bullitt county,its not much I dont think $15 a week.
a lot of the county jails have adopted a law where the inmate has to pay for his housing , but once they get to prison ,ITS EASY STREET ,you and me pay for their housing then,
Indiana DOC

United States

#11 Jan 8, 2009
How is the former Indiana Commissioner J David Donahue doing at the state reformatory? He destroyed Indiana's DOC and was a tyrant and evil person. We were extremely happy Kentucky took him back. So is he doing any better "down home"??
dynamo hum

United States

#12 Jan 8, 2009
Indiana DOC wrote:
How is the former Indiana Commissioner J David Donahue doing at the state reformatory? He destroyed Indiana's DOC and was a tyrant and evil person. We were extremely happy Kentucky took him back. So is he doing any better "down home"??
leave it to ky to take back this dud ,he hasnt been around very long and already hes developing one hell of a reputation and not a good one.

Since: Jan 09

Louisville, KY

#13 Jan 8, 2009
No. I have read maybe a third of the Knuckle-Knocker thread. It is extremely interesting that a lot of what is posted on that thread describes exactly what is happening here. I totally understand why the behavior was not reported in Indiana, and am wondering if it will be different this time around.

It seems that JDD knows exactly where the line of inacceptability is and steps right up to it, but doesn't cross it, so that anyone who may complain can be immediately discredited. What makes this different from my point of view, is that the current complaints are coming from long term, career employees who don't make a habit of "pot stirring." Does this sound familiar?
Indiana DOC

United States

#15 Jan 9, 2009
Then he is still the same. Has he been involved in any sexual harrassment there? That is what got the knuckle knock started. Go to Topix Knuckle knock to read 55 pages of what has gone on in DOC. It all started with his PR woman filing sexual harrassment complaints about JDD and his deputy commissioners passing her around as a sex toy. That was not proven but it was not found to be not true and she was given a settlement rumored to be in the six figures and told to be quiet.
dynamo hum

United States

#16 Jan 9, 2009
Indiana DOC wrote:
Then he is still the same. Has he been involved in any sexual harrassment there? That is what got the knuckle knock started. Go to Topix Knuckle knock to read 55 pages of what has gone on in DOC. It all started with his PR woman filing sexual harrassment complaints about JDD and his deputy commissioners passing her around as a sex toy. That was not proven but it was not found to be not true and she was given a settlement rumored to be in the six figures and told to be quiet.
how do you get to this knuckle knock' i never heard of it ,what is it,it sounds interesting,
Indiana DOC

United States

#17 Jan 10, 2009
It is on the Indianapolis site.
Google Topix Knuckle Knock.
Indiana DOC

United States

#18 Jan 10, 2009
Here it is Knuckle-Knocked
Posted in the WISH-TV 8 Indiana News Forum

http://www.topix.com/forum/source/wish/T47783...
Curious

Louisville, KY

#19 Jan 10, 2009
Indiana DOC wrote:
Then he is still the same. Has he been involved in any sexual harrassment there? That is what got the knuckle knock started. Go to Topix Knuckle knock to read 55 pages of what has gone on in DOC. It all started with his PR woman filing sexual harrassment complaints about JDD and his deputy commissioners passing her around as a sex toy. That was not proven but it was not found to be not true and she was given a settlement rumored to be in the six figures and told to be quiet.
Can any of this be substantiated? The rumor is there are still pending law suits and there was also one settled regarding mental health services?
InDOC

United States

#20 Jan 11, 2009
It was an election year so things that could be settled discreetly were. That was the things that could be substantiated and as part of settlements were contingent on gag orders.
Most of the deputy commissioners who were involved have been demoted by the current commissioner. Only a few who were the JDD top level remain in any position of control over decision making and policy making.
The topix forum picked up when the original blog was discontinued since the person who ran it became involved in the primary with an opponent of Mitch Daniels.
The original blog had much more information about all the misdeeds and the behavior of those in question. The television station took it over as a way to monitor what was going on in DOC.
Curious

Louisville, KY

#21 Jan 11, 2009
I noticed the earliest date on the Indiana blog was June 08 and wondered about it. Thanks for the explanation. Is there any way to access the information from the earlier blog?

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