Methadone Clinic planning to open in Elizabethtown creating controversy among residents

Oct 16, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WHAS11

A methadone clinic is ready to open in Elizabethtown, but some residents and officials say no way, not in this city.

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Chic421

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I go the clinic in Indiana and its the best thing I could have done for myself. I have been sober for a year, and I have become a better mom, employee and a better person piriod. I think people see methadone and freak. when u go to one of these clinics they monitor u very close u have to take drug test see a counslor once a week and see a doctor on a daily basis. I think it is awsome now I wont have to spend all the money and time driving to Indiana. and u also have to attend classes once a month and u have to attend classes that teach u about safty of methadone and introduction of how to take care of urself. so go for it
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i say keep your strung out a$$es off dope and we won't have to worry about wasting money on opening up a money sucking place like this. think about what this could be used for if all u idiots wouldn't have gotten into them in the first place. i see too many people abusing the methadone clinic anyway. abusing the right for their take home privilages too. they sell it..give it away..take other pills while taking methadone. drug test all ya want..methadone is a drug and shouldn't be relied on for the rest of your life. if you are committed to getting sober good for you and hope you succeed. stay clean and educate and help others along the way. good honest people are paying for you and putting up with your irresponsible ways so make sure you give back when you can.
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well see people on methadone arent strung out snd if u hsvent been there u dont know... methadone is for opiate addicts. wich is pain pills and heroin only. so fuck you if u dont know.. strung out is for meth and cocaine all right so when u have been on opiates and you know then u can talk
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ok if someone else is paying for me then why do I spen 470 dollars a month.....? I also am a college grad...well I agree if u are abusing the med and selling it. then yes ur not there for the right reson or if you are still using then no its not going to work. I also agree with that or if you think it's ok to stay on methadone for the rest of your life then you are using it for a cruch, but if you work the program for the way it is suppose to be thenyou can learn from it. so there are many ups and downs to this. take it as you may, but there are lots of people that make mistakes and learn and there are lots of them that don't. I am one of those that learned and will not repeat myself......so grrrr when u have been there and done that then I will value your opinion
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trust me..i know. i know people and why they are on methadone. i see how if screws your life up. i condone some and don't others. yes, i have the right to pick and choose..see that's why they call it an opinion. i myself can make an opinion as a former drug user myself who sought counseling, n.a. and rehab. maybe not opiate abuse for methadone.. heroin, oxy's n whatnot yes i get it..and people on methadone were once strung out. don't have to be in full definition of the word but strung out, addicted, hooked however you want to put it. so don't tell me where my opinion can be used.
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421Acn wrote:
well see people on methadone arent strung out snd if u hsvent been there u dont know... methadone is for opiate addicts. wich is pain pills and heroin only. so fuck you if u dont know.. strung out is for meth and cocaine all right so when u have been on opiates and you know then u can talk
Are you serious when you say "so fuck you if u dont know.. strung out is for meth and cocaine all right so when u have been on opiates and you know then u can talk"
Are you really that much of a drug addict that you refer strung out only pertaining to meth or cocaine. O.K. stupid let me inform you of something, A drug is a drug, the purpose of a drug is to get you addicted. Strung out is strung out, no matter what drug it might be. Obviously pills and heroin can make you the same way, or are you going to say all those people in big cities that are on the streets shooting up aren't strung out. Please think before you talk because it seems you are so strung out on pills or heroin that you don't understand what your saying. In either case, a drug addict is a piece of shit for the community to have to deal with, there is no sympathy for an idiot that decided to become a drug addict so therefore people like us do not have to support a coke head or a crack addict or pill popper or heroin junky. So a methadone clinic, of course you drug addicts think its a good idea, cause its another nice drug you can get strung out on.....
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ok if someone else is paying for me then why do I spen 470 dollars a month.....? I also am a college grad...well I agree if u are abusing the med and selling it. then yes ur not there for the right reson or if you are still using then no its not going to work. I also agree with that or if you think it's ok to stay on methadone for the rest of your life then you are using it for a cruch, but if you work the program for the way it is suppose to be thenyou can learn from it. so there are many ups and downs to this. take it as you may, but there are lots of people that make mistakes and learn and there are lots of them that don't. I am one of those that learned and will not repeat myself......so grrrr when u have been there and done that then I will value your opinion
alright i agree with this
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Are you serious when you say "so fuck you if u dont know.. strung out is for meth and cocaine all right so when u have been on opiates and you know then u can talk"
Are you really that much of a drug addict that you refer strung out only pertaining to meth or cocaine. O.K. stupid let me inform you of something, A drug is a drug, the purpose of a drug is to get you addicted. Strung out is strung out, no matter what drug it might be. Obviously pills and heroin can make you the same way, or are you going to say all those people in big cities that are on the streets shooting up aren't strung out. Please think before you talk because it seems you are so strung out on pills or heroin that you don't understand what your saying. In either case, a drug addict is a piece of shit for the community to have to deal with, there is no sympathy for an idiot that decided to become a drug addict so therefore people like us do not have to support a coke head or a crack addict or pill popper or heroin junky. So a methadone clinic, of course you drug addicts think its a good idea, cause its another nice drug you can get strung out on.....
I couldn't have said it better myself.
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ok well i agree with most it. value my opinion or not n take it as you may. tax payers are paying a portion to even have the clinic open. i guess my anger stems more from seeing all the people who abuse the drugs, seeing the people on them and how it ruins lives. if you are changing your life...great for you.
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421acn::::::i can see where one needs help and support to get off a drug but where i get lost on the subject is there are people that stay on the program for years. how long does it take to wein one off. to me years are to long all your doing is tradeing one drug for another when one goes to AA they don't give them any form of booze and people make it. some don't. my point is your giving up one drug for another the only difference is you will not lose your job are go to jail doing this drug. but your still haveing a drug fix so your not stopping.
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Oct 28, 2009
 
The location for this clinic is completely outrages, it does not belong anywhere remotely close to a school or residential area. To subject people and kids to daily visual contact of a methadone clinic is simply stupid and tempting to kids. Whoever came up with that location sounds like they are the ones using methadone. DO NOT ALLOW THIS CLINIC ANYWHERE NEAR A SCHOOL OR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD!
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All I mean is that I have used it in the right way and I don't agree with people that use it to get a buzz. I tried rehab it didn't work this does. I just think it is a good ideal and people look at the bad. So u shouldn't be so harsh on something u don't know about. As far as the strungout thing u people know what I mean. I have done about everything and the concept of stungout yes I think of powder and clear.....and that is my opinion and I am allowd to have one right? I also don't ask anyone to pay for it so grr I don't know why you think your hard earned tax dollars pay for my treatment.....and if your such a ex-drug user you wouldn't be so judgemental. I mean what you did alittle dope here and there. Because coming off opiates is the worst feeling in the world....and I have came off just about everything. I am not trying to be a bitch but I made my bed and now I lay in it. I pay 470 dollars a month to go to the Southern Indiana Treatment Center, I don't ask u for the money I work for it and go. I also am inrolled in school now and spend the rest of my time working and being with my three kids. That wasn't something I did before. I also attend N.A so before u go pointing the fingers and being a hipocritethink about what u say to your fellow ex-drug addicts.
421acn

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well just asking I totaly agree that staying on the drug for years is doing nothing but trading one drug for another...the program im on is a two year. I am already detox off the Methadone....I go down a mg a week. I do think if you have to stay on it for years and years you are abusing the program and not facing your fear of being completley sober, but its working for me and I hope to be out in 6 months. I think its very nice that your not being a asshole about it.
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Oct 30, 2009
 
Everyone here has a right to say what they think. Why are you getting so mad about others opinions? I don't want a Methadone Clinic here--plain and simple. Why should I make it any easier for you to replace one drug with another? If you were truly that worried about getting off of drugs, then you could do it cold turkey. I have seen it happen. No, its not pretty, but it can be done. I have seen someone go from oxycontin, which actually they were quite close to normal, to methadone, which made them a totally different person. No, I am not a former drug user, so no, I guess I just don't understand what its like. But it still doesn't change my opinion of it either. It is your problem to deal with, so the inconvenience of going to Indiana is your problem too. The people of this town do NOT want it here. All it does is bring the druggies to our town and causes more drug problems for us. So, you can call me an asshole all you want. I really don't care. I have chose to stay on the straight and narrow and you could have just as easily done the same.
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Oct 30, 2009
 
The Methadone program is a great program! I am not an addict and never have been. I have known and still continue to work with people who have addiction. Methadone is a marvelous drug. It is not a drug you stay on! It is a drug that will help you become totally drug free. Now what could be wrong with that? But you could have your information about a clinic coming to Elizabethtown a little off. I don't think it is a Methadone clinic. It may be best to just wait and see.
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Drug Free wrote:
The Methadone program is a great program! I am not an addict and never have been. I have known and still continue to work with people who have addiction. Methadone is a marvelous drug. It is not a drug you stay on! It is a drug that will help you become totally drug free. Now what could be wrong with that? But you could have your information about a clinic coming to Elizabethtown a little off. I don't think it is a Methadone clinic. It may be best to just wait and see.
Help me understand what you are saying. One drug for another is a good cause to help get off a drug? I'm a little unsure about how thats a good thing. One should not rely on a drug to break the habit of another drug. Obviously if you have to rely on another drug that means one is not ready to stop using drugs. Only the willpower of yourself and your mind mentality is ll you need to stop drugs. I think personally the people that use methadone are just hiding behind another excuse to continue to user drugs but at the same time it makes it seem as if they are trying to quit. Sure some people do quit and I congradulate them to the fullest, but there are way more bad people than good that use this drug.
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First off why do any of you care if someone pops a pill? I use. I enjpy taking a pill and playing guitar or video games. It's harmless. A drug is a drug. Alcohol is a drug the same was a loratab is. The only difference is people that pop pills dont get drunk and beat their wives or drive drunk killing innocent people. Yet its perfectly fine with the law for ppl to sit on a bar stool and drink to their hearts content but send someone whp swallows a little tiny pill to prison. Does that makes sense to anyone? Narcotics were legal till 1912. Why you ask? Because its in the United States constitution that we have the right and freedom to take any chemcial we want in our body. The outlawing of narcotics is just another example of this country turning into a communist state.
Now on the flip side of this I think anyone who takes pills the same as anyone who sits in a bar and drinks whiskley for 3 hrs watching a ball game MUST be responsable and take responsablity for their actions. If you want to get drunk or get high off pills. Dont do it around children and dont abuse it to where it endangers others.
Go to any bar this friday and sit bvack and watch people drinking. 90% of the pople there are DRUNK as a skunk by the time they leave and drive home endangering our kids lives and our loved ones but seeling booze by the truck load is perfectly fine to all you people on here calling drug users trash and worthless.
I do pills and I have NEVER stolen from anyone. My bills get paid on time. I dont start trouble with people. I have nothing but respect for my fellow man. All I want is for people to let me live my life the way I want to so long as i dont hurt anyone else.
I take pills for fun but there are many people who need pain meds to survive and live a life withut pain. Stop demonazing pain pills. If you want to demonaize something then do it to the people that rob and steal and lie to family and friends to get their pain meds. I buy a few when I have extra cash and when I am broke I do without. Anyone who robs and steals should be in jail. User or not.
Now some of you on your high horse will see my post and callme scum or trash just because I swallow a little pill. Come on people. Start thinking out side the box and trash talk the people that deserve it. Everyone I know that does pills are some fo the frienldist and nicest people I have ever met.
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Help me understand what you are saying. One drug for another is a good cause to help get off a drug? I'm a little unsure about how thats a good thing. One should not rely on a drug to break the habit of another drug. Obviously if you have to rely on another drug that means one is not ready to stop using drugs. Only the willpower of yourself and your mind mentality is ll you need to stop drugs. I think personally the people that use methadone are just hiding behind another excuse to continue to user drugs but at the same time it makes it seem as if they are trying to quit. Sure some people do quit and I congradulate them to the fullest, but there are way more bad people than good that use this drug.
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O.K> "Rick" Sounds like you have popped one pill to many. Who said anything about pills? The quote you have outlined above mentions drugs all around, unless I read wrong. There is nothing wrong with taking medication properly as it is prescribed to you. But your probably one of those people that buy your pills off the streets illegaly and think its perfectly normal, and you wonder why cops put you in jail.
I agree that alchohol is a serious problem, but at the same time every drug ever invented by man is a serious problem and also a threat for the kids in the future. This main topic is talking about a methadone clinic, this is definitely not something that needs to open. I personally dont think a whole community should pay the price so a couple of drug addicts have access to another drug. It is not fair to punish a million people to help one. I dont feel drug addicts should have any say so or rights.
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well blackhawk do you ever have a beer or whskey? If so I guess you should have no rights and no say so. If you dont drink then I guess any of your family and friends that drink should have no rights and no say so. Cause alcohol is just a much a drug as a loratab or percocet.

No difference what so ever. They are both something you ingest in your body that gets you high.
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Rick wrote:
well blackhawk do you ever have a beer or whskey? If so I guess you should have no rights and no say so. If you dont drink then I guess any of your family and friends that drink should have no rights and no say so. Cause alcohol is just a much a drug as a loratab or percocet.
No difference what so ever. They are both something you ingest in your body that gets you high.
So stupid, what part of me saying alchohol is also a drug along with every other drug man created, where did you get confused at?
At what point do you as an illegal pill popper think you have a say so in anything.
My brother died drinking and driving so no I dont condone it what so ever. I'm as against alchohol as I am against any drug.
Once again this forum is about a methadone clinic opening. I'm not worried about one pill popper and his opinion on alchohol. If it makes you feel better to be mad at people that drink, then so be it. But that doesnt make what you are doing any better, so keep lying to yourself about the whole situation.
Point blank, A DRUG IS A DRUG, THEY ARE ALL BAD. THERE IS NO GOOD IN ANY OF THEM, WHETHER IT BE FOR THE PERSON DOING THEM, THE COMMUNITY, OR FOR THE KIDS OF OUR FUTURE.\
So if you truly want to make a difference and are worried about drunk drivers killing kids, guess what......your preference might be a pill but its a drug and your still rowing in the same boat as the next guy.
Please read this forum when you are sober so you can understand the argument of it all. It's about all drugs and the problems they bring for everyone.

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