Carroll County struggles with heroin problem

Aug 14, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WDRB-TV Louisville

CARROLLTON, Ky. -- Authorities in this small northern Kentucky community are calling the area's struggle with heroin an "epidemic."

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They dont... unless they steal from them, which they do.
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How does the city and county make money from arresting piddle ass drug dealers?
the court makes the defendant pay court costs, the state pays the court appointed attorney, the judge has job security, and a commissioner to do his job because he's so busy, if they go to jail, they charge to be there (which they should), the court clerks have job security as long as there is paperwork, the more cases the more we as tax payers pay for more "help" with the mess of court documents, each time the lawyer delays the case and goes to court, he gets paid. Phone calls, he gets paid, paperwork, he gets paid. It's a vicious cycle for the users in this town too. The dealers may deserve it but all these court fees, fines, lawyers and cases getting continued keeps the user poor and on the dockets owing more and more money. We really do need court reform. Carroll county is one of the few counties who still pay a commissioner to hear cases for the judges to sign off on. Commissioners were done away with a few years ago, but supposedly Carroll still needs one due to large dockets. They only have court a few days of the month. Make the judges work more than a few days a week like Louisville does. They have court every single day. Our courts are a visions cycle and costing all of us tax dollars that could be used elsewhere.
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Now please answer my original question. How does the city and county make money off the dealers?
#1. The court. Is a state run agency, hence no money to the city and county.
#2. Court appointed attorney. State pays them and the defendant is usually obligated to make some type of payment to them. No money to city and county.
#3. Judges and commissioner are paid by the state. No money to city and county.
#4. Deputy Clerks. Receive their paycheck from state. Not one penny of the fines imposed on those "convicted" goes to the city or county.notice the word convicted. If you are found innocent, there is no fine
#5. The jail. Yes Mike Humphrey makes those arrested pay for their stay. I am glad he does. This decreases the amount of money the county has to pitch in to operate the jail.
Seems to me that these dopers are an expense to the city and county, not a source of revenue.
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Now please answer my original question. How does the city and county make money off the dealers?
#1. The court. Is a state run agency, hence no money to the city and county.
#2. Court appointed attorney. State pays them and the defendant is usually obligated to make some type of payment to them. No money to city and county.
#3. Judges and commissioner are paid by the state. No money to city and county.
#4. Deputy Clerks. Receive their paycheck from state. Not one penny of the fines imposed on those "convicted" goes to the city or county.notice the word convicted. If you are found innocent, there is no fine
#5. The jail. Yes Mike Humphrey makes those arrested pay for their stay. I am glad he does. This decreases the amount of money the county has to pitch in to operate the jail.
Seems to me that these dopers are an expense to the city and county, not a source of revenue.
the city and county DO get a portion of those monies, I have NEVER seen them make someone pay anything for a public defender even when said defender lied about being broke, all of those jobs still pay Carroll tax and spend money in Carroll county while here, and our tax dollars pay there salaries regardless of where that check is cut. And mike makes enough off of those prisoners to pay off that jail in his first term, which means Carroll is making a fortune from that jail. Also we tax payers pay for all those awesome state benefits these people enjoy. Believe this, if they weren't making money, they would find a way to stop doing it.
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Now please answer my original question. How does the city and county make money off the dealers?
#1. The court. Is a state run agency, hence no money to the city and county.
#2. Court appointed attorney. State pays them and the defendant is usually obligated to make some type of payment to them. No money to city and county.
#3. Judges and commissioner are paid by the state. No money to city and county.
#4. Deputy Clerks. Receive their paycheck from state. Not one penny of the fines imposed on those "convicted" goes to the city or county.notice the word convicted. If you are found innocent, there is no fine
#5. The jail. Yes Mike Humphrey makes those arrested pay for their stay. I am glad he does. This decreases the amount of money the county has to pitch in to operate the jail.
Seems to me that these dopers are an expense to the city and county, not a source of revenue.
Prisons should not be for profit. That creates an incentive to make criminals where they do not exist. Imprisoning people against their will is criminal. Didn't a guy in Ohio do that to those women? What Mike does is no different.

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Now please answer my original question. How does the city and county make money off the dealers?
#1. The court. Is a state run agency, hence no money to the city and county.
#2. Court appointed attorney. State pays them and the defendant is usually obligated to make some type of payment to them. No money to city and county.
#3. Judges and commissioner are paid by the state. No money to city and county.
#4. Deputy Clerks. Receive their paycheck from state. Not one penny of the fines imposed on those "convicted" goes to the city or county.notice the word convicted. If you are found innocent, there is no fine
#5. The jail. Yes Mike Humphrey makes those arrested pay for their stay. I am glad he does. This decreases the amount of money the county has to pitch in to operate the jail.
Seems to me that these dopers are an expense to the city and county, not a source of revenue.
There all getting rich and dont give two cents about nothing else exsp. mike humphrey yea he makes the inmates pay my asss hell he wont let them out unless there booking fees are paid now dumb asss there in jail who u think going to pay for that they cant so is it ok for mike humphrey to take there family member's cause thats were 90% of the time that is what happens cause its hard to see a family member sitting in that shitttt hole of a jail when the judge says you can sign but humphrey wont let you out till he gets his wtf why they even need a judge there for humophrey word means more and if he not getting rich off the jail and the people there how can some one just on jailer pay go from when he started there he was a goat farmer living in a trailer now he has more land then the president now you can tell me he done that all on jailer pay just go look at everything he has bought and had built since he been jailer you mite just be suprised, and another thing that was one high mother of a jail to build when it was built and they was bragging so much after the first year it was open that they done had enough tickets and inmates the first year it was paid for well look how long it been built wre all the money since then if it was paid for in one year then goshdanm there should be alot of money some were hide from the past years
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I have reviewed some of the comments concerning my above posts. Some have been insightful as to why people think that the city and county make money from the jail. I will agree that those employed in Carroll County pay the occupational tax. County benefits from that. Had not considered that point. Will totally disagree that the jail is a money making endeavor for the county though. There is operational costs to operating a detention facility. Namely salaries and employee benefits. Then there is operating costs. Facility maintenance, utilities, building upkeep, food service and laundry service. The inmate fee assessments would not equal the expenditure by the detention center during a years time. Good points have been made by those that disagree with me but the facts do not bear out the majority of those arguments.

Maybe a better question would be how does the city and county benefit by having so many drug addicted citizens in our community? Are they a benefit or a detriment? Do the city and county benefit from the unemployed and those receiving government assistance?

I would appreciate respectful, well thought out replies as I have done the same to your point of view.

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I have reviewed some of the comments concerning my above posts. Some have been insightful as to why people think that the city and county make money from the jail. I will agree that those employed in Carroll County pay the occupational tax. County benefits from that. Had not considered that point. Will totally disagree that the jail is a money making endeavor for the county though. There is operational costs to operating a detention facility. Namely salaries and employee benefits. Then there is operating costs. Facility maintenance, utilities, building upkeep, food service and laundry service. The inmate fee assessments would not equal the expenditure by the detention center during a years time. Good points have been made by those that disagree with me but the facts do not bear out the majority of those arguments.
Maybe a better question would be how does the city and county benefit by having so many drug addicted citizens in our community? Are they a benefit or a detriment? Do the city and county benefit from the unemployed and those receiving government assistance?
I would appreciate respectful, well thought out replies as I have done the same to your point of view.
well i say if you going to talk all sweet about the city people running the town then they need to get off there asssses and go out in to the streets and see how they can help there city as they call it got off there asssess out from behind there desk and do somthing to earn what they do make witch i mite say is way to dang much.
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I have reviewed some of the comments concerning my above posts. Some have been insightful as to why people think that the city and county make money from the jail. I will agree that those employed in Carroll County pay the occupational tax. County benefits from that. Had not considered that point. Will totally disagree that the jail is a money making endeavor for the county though. There is operational costs to operating a detention facility. Namely salaries and employee benefits. Then there is operating costs. Facility maintenance, utilities, building upkeep, food service and laundry service. The inmate fee assessments would not equal the expenditure by the detention center during a years time. Good points have been made by those that disagree with me but the facts do not bear out the majority of those arguments.
Maybe a better question would be how does the city and county benefit by having so many drug addicted citizens in our community? Are they a benefit or a detriment? Do the city and county benefit from the unemployed and those receiving government assistance?
I would appreciate respectful, well thought out replies as I have done the same to your point of view.
from what I understand, they do benefit from people on welfare. The schools have a ton of free programs but if they don't push the free goodies on everyone then they don't get the money, grants Etc.... Like the free lunch, if they don't have a certain percentage of kids needing it, they don't get the money which is why the schools go out of the way to get you signed up. If you don't need it, should you be quilt tripped about the county not getting the grant? I've met several couple who tried to encourage me to sign up for a collage plan they were on, bragging they don't have to work because after they pay the tuition part of the schooling, all the extra money they get to live off of. Free babysitters, free school supplies, a bunch of "toys for tots" type of deals for free Christmas, I say if you can afford to take 3 of your children to paragon for hip hop class, you can afford your kids Christmas and school supplies and lunch. But no one is encouraged to do for themselves here. If you have all this free time from your free living, you do get bored. Welfare and drug addicts seem to go hand and hand here. Not all drug users are poor, but most are. It's a rut the county doesn't realize they are helping to create.

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I have reviewed some of the comments concerning my above posts. Some have been insightful as to why people think that the city and county make money from the jail. I will agree that those employed in Carroll County pay the occupational tax. County benefits from that. Had not considered that point. Will totally disagree that the jail is a money making endeavor for the county though. There is operational costs to operating a detention facility. Namely salaries and employee benefits. Then there is operating costs. Facility maintenance, utilities, building upkeep, food service and laundry service. The inmate fee assessments would not equal the expenditure by the detention center during a years time. Good points have been made by those that disagree with me but the facts do not bear out the majority of those arguments.
Maybe a better question would be how does the city and county benefit by having so many drug addicted citizens in our community? Are they a benefit or a detriment? Do the city and county benefit from the unemployed and those receiving government assistance?
I would appreciate respectful, well thought out replies as I have done the same to your point of view.
sounds like to me you one of them worthless assssholes running the town what u scared your pay check going to stop, any one that would take up for the assssholes running this town must be in the circle with them let. me ask you this has the mayor yet to come to your meeting to save our town no does he care helll no he dont carrollton is so screwed up it needs to wash away in the nasty river that runs threw it. bottom line you so full of sh-t i bet your eys are brown
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sounds like to me you one of them worthless assssholes running the town what u scared your pay check going to stop, any one that would take up for the assssholes running this town must be in the circle with them let. me ask you this has the mayor yet to come to your meeting to save our town no does he care helll no he dont carrollton is so screwed up it needs to wash away in the nasty river that runs threw it. bottom line you so full of sh-t i bet your eys are brown
Listen Bubba Boo I don't know who you are but from all your post I have seen you have done nothing but run Carrollton down! We need to be washed away and the nasty river that runs through it??? Well you little jerk! Easy to run your little nasty trap when you can hide behind a screen name. Get your nasty ass out of this town then cause is all you do is run it down and the people in it! What can't afford to leave? Cause you don't work and stay on here and just want to run others down? Ha ha now lets talk about trash! I would love to know who u are. Which we have heard a name just not sure if is true yet! but I would have to agree about all this money of where is it all going? but the rest of what your trap has to say is all just horse shit!
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To Btw: thank you for the thoughtful, respectable reply. I will agree with you that the school system encourages parents in our community to register for entitlement programs. The percentages that they have acquired have resulted in more money received. This is federal money, not city or county. Nor does the city or county receive any of this money, it goes directly to the school system.
Also agree with you that if you can pay for three children's dance lessons you should be able to provide for their Christmas and other needs. It is called a parents priority and obligation to those they have brought into the world.
I think that we as a people should take care of children, the elderly and those that are truly disabled. If you are an able bodied adult that is to lazy to work then that is your fault and you deserve the repercussions from that. Don't have the rest the working class provide for your lifestyle.
The drug issues in this community will never be solved by the government or the police. They can throw money at it and arrest everyone. It will not slow it down. Until the addict reaches rock bottom and is held accountable by those close to them or acknowledges they need help the problem will not decrease.
To: bubba boo. I am a lifelong resident of this county. Are you? I am a productive member of society. Are you? I plan on being here for life. Do you? I think the river is quite nice. Do you? I cannot respond to most of what you said because I cannot understand it.

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