Carroll County struggles with heroin problem

Aug 14, 2013 Full story: WDRB-TV Louisville 112

CARROLLTON, Ky. -- Authorities in this small northern Kentucky community are calling the area's struggle with heroin an "epidemic."

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“Hi there”

Since: Jun 08

Derby City

#24 Aug 16, 2013
someone wrote:
<quoted text> You are completely clueless. I hope to God you never have someone close to you become addicted to heroin and live in fear every single day that your loved one could die from an overdose at any time. If you honestly believe that "druggies" have all kind of resources to help them, then you have no clue what you're talking about and shouldn't even comment about it. As someone who just found out that their sibling has been addicted to heroin for a year, it's the most heartbreaking experience in my life trying to look for rehab facilities or any help what so ever that doesn't involve thousands of dollars up front and a six month waiting list! Until you've dealt with this stfu with you uninformed opinions!!!!!
This is a public forum, where people express opinions, some you like, some you don't.I,i mean we,as in my family do know what its like to lose a loved one to addiction, but it wasn't heroin, but trust me,i do know,and you can only do so much when theyre adults, and I feel more for the innocent victims(kids) than the adults who started doing the drugs.I get angry when I read about parents passed out from heroin with kids in the car, as many do.Your hateful words to me,a stranger, had little effect, but at least your loved one is still alive.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#25 Aug 16, 2013
someone wrote:
<quoted text> You are completely clueless. I hope to God you never have someone close to you become addicted to heroin and live in fear every single day that your loved one could die from an overdose at any time. If you honestly believe that "druggies" have all kind of resources to help them, then you have no clue what you're talking about and shouldn't even comment about it. As someone who just found out that their sibling has been addicted to heroin for a year, it's the most heartbreaking experience in my life trying to look for rehab facilities or any help what so ever that doesn't involve thousands of dollars up front and a six month waiting list! Until you've dealt with this stfu with you uninformed opinions!!!!!
It's not just uninformed... it's a callous and psychotic disregard for the feelings, or plight, of others. They are completely disregarding what your sister or brother has to go through. They do not care. Nor do they care what you will have to go through in order to get them some rehab help. Kentucky would save $500 million per year if they focused on rehab instead of jail for non-violent drug offenders... they'd save money, and they'd be doing something better for the person too, according to Eric Holder...$500 million a year! My God! Have you ever seen $500 million dollars? And Kentucky, the chronically poorest state in America, we've got that kind of money... and we're using that money, not to invest in our future, or education or healthcare or infrastructure... but to lock people up, like animals at a zoo... to do what? To just sit there, and take up space, and do nothing? So they can watch SportsCenter, and lift weights, and get raped, on my dime? Nah... jail does not help them, and it does not society. Doing what's best for your brother/sister is doing what's is best for society. We need to embrace your brother/sister. Love might not work... but it's the only thing that can... IF we truly believe that a person can change.

My last point. In Sweden, or Norway... one of the Scandinavian countries... their prisons look like Universities. I saw this documentary where the reporter walked up to a cold-blooded killer, who was strolling through one of these plush, green University prisons, and interviewed him. The cold-blooded killer could easily run, if he wanted to, in hopes of hiding in some horrible place and evading police forever and ever (like Kentucky's John Robert Boone, of the Cornbread Mafia), but why would he? Larry Trent was murdered in a Perry County Kentucky jail by "drug-free" so-called good guys http://www.correctionsone.com/staff-misconduc...

The philosophy of Norway and Sweden, Denmark, the countries with highest rate of happiness, and socialism too, incidentally, is that in order to make somebody better, you have to treat them better. You treat them they way you want them to treat you. Putting heroin addicts into a cage, all together, with other users, and violent criminals, and giving them no new contacts, no new skills... these people don't have a chance. Putting bad into bad doesn't help anybody... put bad into good... and we got ourselves a winning solution. The crime rate in these countries are super low too. IF we're being serious about this problem, but I'm pretty sure we're not being serious about the problem.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#26 Aug 16, 2013
Sandy06 wrote:
<quoted text>This is a public forum, where people express opinions, some you like, some you don't.I,i mean we,as in my family do know what its like to lose a loved one to addiction, but it wasn't heroin, but trust me,i do know,and you can only do so much when theyre adults, and I feel more for the innocent victims(kids) than the adults who started doing the drugs.I get angry when I read about parents passed out from heroin with kids in the car, as many do.Your hateful words to me,a stranger, had little effect, but at least your loved one is still alive.
You don't care about the adults? They used to be children... and those children you're making orphans by throwing their parent's lives away will follow in the same footsteps... esp since you haven't done anything about that child's education, or made it a better economy... You're just wasting our tax dollars on screwing that poor child's parents, literally and figuratively.

There's plenty we can do for them... rehab instead of prison being the glaringly obvious one. If we start putting heroin addicts in rehab, we'd fix the problem. Instead, AmeriKKKa/KKKentucKKKe is forcing them to get raped in prison for many years, and that, so far, has done nothing to alleviate the problem.
whattheh-ll

Lockport, KY

#27 Aug 16, 2013
What is up with you and getting raped in prison?

“Hi there”

Since: Jun 08

Derby City

#28 Aug 16, 2013
Johnathan Masters wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not just uninformed... it's a callous and psychotic disregard for the feelings, or plight, of others. They are completely disregarding what your sister or brother has to go through. They do not care. Nor do they care what you will have to go through in order to get them some rehab help. Kentucky would save $500 million per year if they focused on rehab instead of jail for non-violent drug offenders... they'd save money, and they'd be doing something better for the person too, according to Eric Holder...$500 million a year! My God! Have you ever seen $500 million dollars? And Kentucky, the chronically poorest state in America, we've got that kind of money... and we're using that money, not to invest in our future, or education or healthcare or infrastructure... but to lock people up, like animals at a zoo... to do what? To just sit there, and take up space, and do nothing? So they can watch SportsCenter, and lift weights, and get raped, on my dime? Nah... jail does not help them, and it does not society. Doing what's best for your brother/sister is doing what's is best for society. We need to embrace your brother/sister. Love might not work... but it's the only thing that can... IF we truly believe that a person can change.
My last point. In Sweden, or Norway... one of the Scandinavian countries... their prisons look like Universities. I saw this documentary where the reporter walked up to a cold-blooded killer, who was strolling through one of these plush, green University prisons, and interviewed him. The cold-blooded killer could easily run, if he wanted to, in hopes of hiding in some horrible place and evading police forever and ever (like Kentucky's John Robert Boone, of the Cornbread Mafia), but why would he? Larry Trent was murdered in a Perry County Kentucky jail by "drug-free" so-called good guys http://www.correctionsone.com/staff-misconduc...
The philosophy of Norway and Sweden, Denmark, the countries with highest rate of happiness, and socialism too, incidentally, is that in order to make somebody better, you have to treat them better. You treat them they way you want them to treat you. Putting heroin addicts into a cage, all together, with other users, and violent criminals, and giving them no new contacts, no new skills... these people don't have a chance. Putting bad into bad doesn't help anybody... put bad into good... and we got ourselves a winning solution. The crime rate in these countries are super low too. IF we're being serious about this problem, but I'm pretty sure we're not being serious about the problem.
Callous and psychotic? What the he ll are you talking about? In the past 2 weeks ive read at least 2 stories where parents are passed out with kids in the car, and they're on heroin. Kids are innocent victims in this, and have no say when their parents are on drugs. And the addicts have to WANT to get help, thats the key word Mr dramatic..WANT..as we could relate, so don't give me that garbage of being callous, as most people are far from it.And when someone breaks into your home to steal to pawn for drugs, they are going to go to jail as breaking and entering is a crime...your post is all over the place..smh.
whattheh-ll

Lockport, KY

#29 Aug 16, 2013
Most of the time 1st time arrest of drug users get the option of jail or rehab. Ill let you guess the percentage that just choose jail bc they don't want help. I have compassion for those who seek help, I don't not have compassion for those who do not want help, or the drug dealers who sale to kids not even old enough to be in high school. You saying. heroin in this town is not an epidemic is downright idiotic. You are someone who has an obvious aversion to law enforcement officers for whatever reason, but I thank God everyday for them keeping the drugs away from my kids.

“Hi there”

Since: Jun 08

Derby City

#30 Aug 16, 2013
Johnathan Masters wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't care about the adults? They used to be children... and those children you're making orphans by throwing their parent's lives away will follow in the same footsteps... esp since you haven't done anything about that child's education, or made it a better economy... You're just wasting our tax dollars on screwing that poor child's parents, literally and figuratively.
There's plenty we can do for them... rehab instead of prison being the glaringly obvious one. If we start putting heroin addicts in rehab, we'd fix the problem. Instead, AmeriKKKa/KKKentucKKKe is forcing them to get raped in prison for many years, and that, so far, has done nothing to alleviate the problem.
Did u read Sundays paper? There are addicts getting help, but with so many addicted theres just so many beds available and it costs money.LOL...ive never put anybody away,figuratively or for real either,so I don't know where you got that from.Ive done my debating for the night..good night.

“Hi there”

Since: Jun 08

Derby City

#31 Aug 16, 2013
[QUOTE who="what?"]<quot ed text>
Someone, you are exactly right...Sandy has not a clue as to what she's talking about. As with most people in this conversation. You can get into a few places for help immediately, but its just to get you off the street for about 3 days. Any real program requires $3000.00 to $6000.00 to get started....other no cost up front programs take 6 or more months to get into. I've seen it first hand, there is no real help out there, no matter how much you want it.[/QUOTE]I do have a clue, as we lost someone from addiction, so tell me im clueless...and if they refuse to get help or wont admit a problem, there is zero you can do if they're an adult..so we did have a clue. Its amazing isn't it how people assume about strangers on the internet and usually end up being wrong in what they assume about them.

“Hi there”

Since: Jun 08

Derby City

#32 Aug 16, 2013
whattheh-ll wrote:
Most of the time 1st time arrest of drug users get the option of jail or rehab. Ill let you guess the percentage that just choose jail bc they don't want help. I have compassion for those who seek help, I don't not have compassion for those who do not want help, or the drug dealers who sale to kids not even old enough to be in high school. You saying. heroin in this town is not an epidemic is downright idiotic. You are someone who has an obvious aversion to law enforcement officers for whatever reason, but I thank God everyday for them keeping the drugs away from my kids.
He has a huge aversion to law enforcement and has shown it on here many times,lol.I also have compassion when someone admits they have a problem and try to seek help, but NOT when innocent people suffer as in kids, and others, and they result to burglarizing homes to feed their addiction, cause than strangers suffer.Heroin made a resurgence cause the pill mills are closing down and the new laws regarding doctor shopping has resulted in fewer pills being able to be used in a abusive manner.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#33 Aug 16, 2013
I have personal reasons for hating the local Nazi standing army called the LMPD. LMPD beat me up over jaywalking. You say I am not for the law. You are wrong. I am for the law. All of the laws, including the Bill of Rights, in both constitutions, the state's and the federal one... The LMPD, and those who support that illegal criminal gang, however, do not. The Rule of Law is that nobody is above the Law. NOBODY is ABOVE the LAW. If there's a law that says assault is wrong, then assault is wrong for everybody, at all times. But they have a monopoly on violence. They need to protect Chase Bank, and make sure the scum poor people don't mess up the exchange of commerce or production. The LMPD beat me up, gave me $28,000 in medical bills, broke my nose, broke my face, altered my appearance, from gorgeous to monster, and after they attacked me, for no reason... I say "jaywalking" just to say something... I wasn't even jaywalking. I was crossing the street in a legal manner. So I get attacked, just for walking, just for existing, and THEN the police officers who attacked me without provocation maliciously prosecutes me, by putting assault a police officer on the ticket, along with resisting, and disorderly conduct... or menancing, or something. So not only did these savage disgraceful violent barbaric psychopaths completely alter my life, my face, my appearance, they did so for no reason, and instead of apologizing for them being hotheads, and for nearly running over me, and attacking me, and for being overall buttholes, instead, they try to cover up their crimes by posting as many charges as they could think up on me. After attacking me, and then charging me with attack, I am made to bleed all over myself, my clothes, while sitting one block away from my house, sitting in sweat pants, since I only wanted to go to the store and then come straight back home... these criminals do not protect and serve me. These criminals are the VIPER squad, an undercover personal reserve force for the new police chief, and they have carte blanche to do whatever, however, to whoever. Murder is wrong, unless it's done during wartime... or if a cop does it. The LMPD said that they would not have chased me if I would have ran away. Yeah... they coulda shot me for that. That's what happened to Timothy THomas in Cincinnati... fat cop didn't want to chase the young Tim Thomas... so instead, he just shot him. Got acquited too. Just like LA. Just like Zimmerman. Just like OJ. The VIPER squad is supposed to lower violence... but all they are doing is starting the violence. At the hospital, the doctors did not care to fix my face right away, instead opting to letting my nose live next to my ear, as I bled in jail... in jail, the jailers yelled at me, and when I did not immediately comply with a demand, not because I did not want to, but I couldn't understand the guy... I was molested, and taken in the back, put on my stomach, hog-tied, and thrown around, until more blood came out of me... so just for walking down the street, I got attacked, charges are to ruin my life forever, and get 5 years of jail time, molested, disrespected... and for what? Because I am a violent menace? Because I hurt people? Because I committed a crime? No... none of these reasons. Justice was never a question on the judge's lips for some reason, or the prosecutor's, or internal affairs. But my god... how many people did I have to deal with because of this ordeal... what a great money-making scandal... Al Capone couldn't have come up with a better one. Or 68 Democratic Convention... Remember the Gestapo. The cops beat up some poor schmuck, nobody knows what he did or did not do, but it does not matter, because the pack of wildebeasts just stare and glare at the pack of hyenas on the wildebeasts just thankful it's not them being victimized. There was a wolf-pack'n right outside my house recently. One black man, and 20 white cops.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#34 Aug 16, 2013
Beating up innocent people is a great industry in Louisville. Beat up one homeless girl, for, I don't know... say, shoplifting... get the cops to beat her up... and put her in jail. This one simple criminal assault/standard routine protocol employs the police, the EMS drivers ($1,000! For 5 blocks! And they were dkkks too!), lawyers, jailers, receptionists, janitors, food service workers, judges, hospitals, doctors, nurses, ER and Specialists... this one tiny act starts a Mouse Trap of chain events which crosses over into many industries, and that's the real reason it continues. At no point did these fools ever offer to do the right thing... apologize, and pay for my doctor's bills. Justice is an eye for an eye... I should be allowed to break their faces, permanently distorting their faces into crookedness, and making their nose whistle when they sleep, and to put them into prison, to get molested, and hog-tied, and beat up and battered further, charge them with felonies, to sully their reputations... that is what justice calls for. But I am a reasonable guy, and if they fixed their mistake, and apologized, and reassured me that they are out here to protect and serve me, not to criminalize and vandalize me... maybe I'd speak of these Gestapo arbitrary rogue militias a lil bit better. But they haven't done this. Actually, one would be crazy to assume the justice system would actually attempt true justice. The truth? Nah... that's not important. Let's keep violent psychopaths in uniform and on duty, to go after... the violent psychopaths! For good or ill, as Chief Louis Brandies said, the government serves as the example. Perhaps all of this insanity and violence you see all of the time, in the media, on the streets, would be lessened if you didn't have the biggest gang on our streets showing our children exactly how to molest and oppress. The police shows how violence solves situations. That's the first option they resort to... when it should be the last. By their example, the police show, with great precision, how they solve their situations... you just have to be the big dog in town. Yell the loudest. Have the most men. Have the best guns and cars. And violence. Always... always... must have violence. Because "real men" are violent. That's what the police show our boys. That might makes right... when it does not. Only right makes right, and many times, might will do wrong and pretend it's right until somebody tells them knock it off. Plus the stats show how the biggest most insane people come from the police stations... police officers have a higher rate of insanity, for drug addictions, for domestic violence, for criminal abuse, with a greater propensity for violent crimes, than the rest of the population.
gld

Eminence, KY

#35 Aug 16, 2013
Epidemic heroin!!!! epidemic BLAME!!!!! everyone always try to put the blame on something well this happened because of this or this happened because of her this happen because of.him there is no blame! the blame game is over n did heroin is a choice now your mind on the other hand is either strong or weak mostly weak minded people get addicted and strung out now that's not saying strong minded people won't but this is what statistics say so now problem: help.the ones that want help.an prevent our children from gettin hooked thats the soulution!!!! How many wanna help do that????? Thats the question to ask an solve no blame just actions!!
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#36 Aug 16, 2013
gld wrote:
mostly weak minded people get addicted and strung out

help the ones that want help and prevent our children from gettin hooked thats the soulution!!!!

no blame just actions!!


I appreciated DARE... just seeing pictures of meth users... how can a person ever choose to be that? Educate our children, and help those who want to get help... that's it.
whattheh-ll

Lockport, KY

#37 Aug 17, 2013
I'm sure that the lmpd beat you up for just the fun of it lol. Just from your rants on here I can tell you are the type to get mouthy, to fight. and I tell you what if I was s police officer down there and dealt with the things they deal with, I would protect myself if I felt threatened. And I'm sure you will say you did nothing to bring it on bc that's your state of mind. perception is reality, and your reality is that you are always right. I'm going to guess you most likely have a problem holding a relationship, you have a problem getting a.job or holding a job, and that you have less than a handful of friends. its not everyone else man, its you.
Johnathan Masters

Louisville, KY

#38 Aug 17, 2013
lol Well... that's wonderful, but off topic. The point being... there was no reason to stop me, and now, yall getting hyped up about others reasons to hurt... they don't need any reason to hurt others. They already have license to kill. They already have license to violence. They already have license to molest, and rape. They have license to commit all of crimes they want, as long as they can thinly veil it as something productive. We live in a police state, and it reminds me of something Tupac said in 1995:

Can I have a lil peace? They have a war on the streets, and a war in the Middle East. They don't have a war on poverty, but they have a war on drugs, so the police can bother me. Stop and Fisk... Wolf Pack'n... Stand your Ground... Fascism... no matter how you slice it, they aint protect'n and serv'n me, and I don't like giv'n gangs more power and weapons, thank ya. ALSO how about 70% prison rates being black... what's up w/ that?$500 million ... that's quite a bit of money. The New Jim Crow... come on now! Is this thang on? Does anybody know what I'm talk'n about?
Shoestrang

Louisville, KY

#40 Aug 17, 2013
Sandy is a complete idiot, the proof is in the pudding, jus read her responses to this thread alone. And there . Is countless other ones on here. She's always wanting to stick that long OLD neck into erything that she don't have a clue on.....T RASH!!!!

Since: Feb 13

United States

#41 Aug 17, 2013
SNITCH wrote:
Perhaps it would help if the Law Enforcement would offer a large reward for the bigger dealer. I keep seeing people busted for 2 grams of ( H ). They get out of jail quickly and get busted over and over. If they have 2 grams, someone else must have much more.
They have been fighting this "drug war" for 43 years. The have been loosing the drug war for 43 years with no chance of winning. How does a government declair war on its own people. Legalize legalize legalize its the only thing that's since. I guess with a name like snitch you are the one who call cops every chance you get like a fool, if people only knew the cops don't even have respect for people like you!

Since: Feb 13

United States

#42 Aug 17, 2013
Medi-Jane wrote:
Be part of KY history and help battle the heroin epidemic. Kentucky government will be discussing medical marijuana during the August 21st Health and Welfare Committee meeting in Frankfort. It will be held at the Capitol Annex building in room 129.
Irvin Rosenfeld, a FEDERAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA PATIENT, will be there to speak on our behalf. In the last poll taken, 78% of Kentuckians feel that medical marijuana should be legal! Please come help us persuade our legislators to allow patients safe access to medical marijuana for the citizens of Kentucky! Dr. Sanjay Gupta recently said he is in favor of medical marijuana and that it is hypocritical of our government to hold a patent on marijuana having medicinal properties while stating that it has no medicinal properties. You can see his statement on CNN.com .
The meeting will be starting at 12 pm(noon) EDT, but I would recommend trying to arrive at least 1 hour early due to the amount of people that will be in the building.
Following the formal meeting we will move the discussion to the capital steps and have a rally at the capital.
Please come out and show your support for medical marijuana.
This sounds good but I don't think there is any federal marijuana patents only state be sari the fed have it classified as a schedule 1 with no medical value. I'm 100 percent in favor of med marijuana. I'm moving to Colorado in jan where it is more than med but just for fun as long as you are 21!!!

Since: Feb 13

United States

#43 Aug 17, 2013
Johnathan Masters wrote:
Yall a bunch of sick psychopaths. Remember Prohibition? Did making alcohol legal increase or decrease the crime? And do yall know economics? What happens to the price of a good when you make it illegal? The war on drugs is creating most of the problems in our society. It's ludicrous, nobody believes you people because of it... Obama smoked pot, so did Bill Clinton, W. Bush is snorting cocaine... since 1992, POTUS has been a pot-addled, coke-binged, alcoholic... and alcohol being the worst of those drugs. Yall lied about marijuana, how can we trust yall about anything else? No... yall making this crap up. Yall dont see any heroin... you just afraid of the boogieman... if you're being serious about getting heroin off of the streets, then you figure out why people on heroin are doing it, and then stop it's causes. Throwing more people in prison, well that's bad for them, and us, because that costs us money to make sure an abled body person does nothing with themselves, except take our money for a complete socialistic utopia... besides the rapes and lack of freedom. If we're being serious about solving the heroin "epidemic". People get on heroin because their lives are miserable, and they have no hope... give them hope... help their lives out... do not give handouts... give jobs... good jobs... good jobs, where people are happy... 80% of American workforce have "checked out"... this is bad for everybody. It's bad workers, and it's bad work... come on now. Be serious. You cannot understand how a better economy would make the heroin problem better? Make better educated people, whose got a chance to do well... I wonder how many of these heroin addicts ever ate at an Applebees, or went shopping at JC Penny's for some good clothes, or we out to an amusement park, or went skiing... you know, the benefits of middle class... but really, I hear what you're really saying. These heroin addicts are scum, so let's get the cops to beat them up, and throw them away into prison, and throw away the key... who cares what happens to these scumbag losers... just throw them into the garbage, flush them down the toilet... goodbye heroin trash, good riddance. Come on now. It's not the heroin you're against. It's poor people. It's trailer trash. It's white trash. I am supposed to believe that you wanted to get them arrested and jailed is your way of making our society better? I do not think so. The man who sits in a room shooting himself up with heroin is not the criminal. The criminal is the man who goes into that man's room, and locks him up like a dog. You do not care about that man's life. If ya did... you'd know he's not a criminal, but makes bad health decisions... rehab would be my first suggestion... throwing everybody in jail isn't helping Carroll County... well, it's helping the lawyers, and judges, and cops, and jailers all feel like they are doing something important, and useful, so therefore giving them purpose and meaning, in their otherwise purposeless and meaningless existence... they're survival depends on it, but it's also big money too... for every $1 we spent on education, we save $2 on prisons... but who gives a fkkk about actually helping anybody, right, you hypocritical Christians!?! You love everybody, right? Turn the other cheek, right? Bullshyt... yalls the one starting the fights... come on now! This is America! We can do better than this!
Well said I agree 95 percent !
LMMFAO

Dayton, OH

#44 Aug 17, 2013
wanna solve the problem ... look at Malaysia or Singapore .... Catch a drug dealer, dont lock him up but hang him by the neck

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