City wants drug recovery center

City wants drug recovery center

There are 66 comments on the Central KY News Journal story from Feb 1, 2006, titled City wants drug recovery center. In it, Central KY News Journal reports that:

Campbellsville could be-come home to a state-funded center seeking to combat drug addiction and homelessness in the Bluegrass state.

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support dont enable

Cincinnati, OH

#21 Mar 31, 2006
Thankful wrote:
You don't have a clue. Powerful drugs are so much harder to quit than cigarettes. There is no comparsion. loving and supporting someone is enableing. that is caring. It most certainly is a sickness once a person is hooked on them.
Yep, you just keep telling yourself that. You must be experienced in both nicotine and some other drug addiction since you know there is no comparison. Don't worry about taking any accountability for what you do, and don't expect anyone else to be accountable.
Hey

Elizabethtown, KY

#22 Mar 31, 2006
support dont enable wrote:
<quoted text>Yep, you just keep telling yourself that. You must be experienced in both nicotine and some other drug addiction since you know there is no comparison. Don't worry about taking any accountability for what you do, and don't expect anyone else to be accountable.
I think there no question about who is accountable. Being accountable and offering support is as different as nicotine and crack cocaine.
Question

United States

#23 Mar 31, 2006
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
I think there no question about who is accountable. Being accountable and offering support is as different as nicotine and crack cocaine.
Thank goodness someone tells it like it is. I guess some people think because you know someone that is a drug addict that you have to be one too just because you know what they are going thru. But some people think they know everything. their life is just so perfect. I will tell that person one thing...Look in the mirror and take a good look at what you see.
AC_KICKER

Elizabethtown, KY

#24 Apr 1, 2006
unless you have done drugs and got addicted and stopped them all around dont put anyone down that has a problem. drugs are very serious problem and the ppl you think arent doin them PROLLY ARE! So dont put ppl down just cuz you dont like them...take a walk in their shoes for a day and see how much you run that mouth then.
Hey

Elizabethtown, KY

#25 Apr 1, 2006
Question wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank goodness someone tells it like it is. I guess some people think because you know someone that is a drug addict that you have to be one too just because you know what they are going thru. But some people think they know everything. their life is just so perfect. I will tell that person one thing...Look in the mirror and take a good look at what you see.
That is exactly right. I am not a drug user, nor have I ever been, but for those who are and need my help I would do my best.
I have been to NA meetings and never needed them for myself. I see what these people go through and not all of them are doing it because they like it anymore, but because they need it and can't get the proper help.
Recovering addict

United States

#26 Apr 3, 2006
rebutal person wrote:
<quoted text> We need to put there butts in jail for 3-6 months and let them get rehabilitated, instead we coddle them and get them out of trouble, spend thousands of dollars with counceling and they do it over and over and over again. I am sick of the whole mess!
I was incarcerated for 2 yrs without any drug counseling or rehab and all it did for me was hone in on more criminal skills. I got out and used the very same day. Jail is not the answer initially. Most kids begin using just to fit in with the crowd or experimenting and then become addicted. So yes I believe it is a disease and spreading like wildfire throughout our country at a rapid pace. Some of you people who are complaining about the cost to rehabilitate will be the first to complain that your taxes are going up to build more jails in your community's. I personally got busted again and was then sentenced to a 6 month mandatory live in rehab-program, which consisted of counseling, group therapy and introduced me to a 12 step program (NA). I have been clean since then almost 7 years now. I think that a program should be mandatory sentence for all 1st time offenders. At least one can say that the offender has been introduced to a way that does work, attack the problem at it's source! Dont be so quick to condemn, especially when it could turn out to be one of your kids.
misspetite

AOL

#27 Apr 3, 2006
How dare anyone compare an addiction to drugs with a disease. No one asks for some of the life threatening diseases for example cancer. Addiction is a choice. You made the choice to take that first hit, you made the choice to continue doing it, and you made the choice to let it go too far. And why shouldn't some of them be put in jail? Doing drugs is still a crime you know. I live in a small community in western Ky. We have had 7 houses burn down from the explosions of meth labs in less than 6 months. These people do not need pity, they are endangering themselves and everyone around them. Here we have a drug rehab center the Four Rivers Clinic. You have to be self admitted and payment plans are available. You can pay off your debt of a 30 day program over a period of 2 years. Cost should not be an issue. Stop babying the ones that are addicted and use some tough love.
Recovering addict

United States

#28 Apr 3, 2006
misspetite wrote:
How dare anyone compare an addiction to drugs with a disease. No one asks for some of the life threatening diseases for example cancer. Addiction is a choice. You made the choice to take that first hit, you made the choice to continue doing it, and you made the choice to let it go too far. And why shouldn't some of them be put in jail? Doing drugs is still a crime you know. I live in a small community in western Ky. We have had 7 houses burn down from the explosions of meth labs in less than 6 months. These people do not need pity, they are endangering themselves and everyone around them. Here we have a drug rehab center the Four Rivers Clinic. You have to be self admitted and payment plans are available. You can pay off your debt of a 30 day program over a period of 2 years. Cost should not be an issue. Stop babying the ones that are addicted and use some tough love.
what do say to your child that comes home addicted to meth, do you send him to jail? Or do you seek help for that child? Those 7 houses that burned down in 6 months, I would be willing to say that they are for sure repeat offenders and should be put in jail. They are the ones introducing the drugs to the community and creating the disease (environmental stress). I am not saying that we should baby anyone, but I am saying that 1st time offenders should be given the oppurtunity to recover, rather than send them to jail so they can learn from other criminals how to fine tune their crimes. I am not speaking from what I heard or seen from others, I am speaking from experience.
misspetite

AOL

#29 Apr 3, 2006
I too once was an addict and only when my fdamily finally had had enough and gave up is when I went and got the help that I needed. My family was more important. Just took me a while to realize that. But no I do not think first time offenders should be jailed but I do think they should be required to go into a recovery program. Not just a slap on the wrist and send them on their way.
Hey

Elizabethtown, KY

#30 Apr 4, 2006
rebutal person wrote:
<quoted text> We need to put there butts in jail for 3-6 months and let them get rehabilitated, instead we coddle them and get them out of trouble, spend thousands of dollars with counceling and they do it over and over and over again. I am sick of the whole mess!
Welcome to the world. You are going to have to pay those tax dollars regardless and if they help one person why wouldn't you be glad? It doesn't matter how sick you get of the whole mess, it is still going to be there. You think jail 3 to 6 months will rehabilitate, without treatment? Wrong. This could be your brother, even your mother who by own choice took the drugs and by own choice wants off them.
Diamond

Hodgenville, KY

#31 Apr 4, 2006
Drug court seems to be helping people to access recovery and working well across the nation.
Amber

Saint Louis, MO

#32 Apr 8, 2006
Treatment centers are needed, yes. Jails are a way to temporarily sweep someone under the rug and pretend they aren't there. On taxpayers dime as well.

However, treatment centers alone will not work. And jail should be used as neccessary but not as an answer for every social ill.

I no longer live in Kentucky but I am moving back. The reason I believe so many people are using drugs in Kentucky is because people are depressed. There are very few jobs there. Very few opportunities for personal growth and people give up. All people of a community need to become their brother's keeper and start caring and showing it when someone they know or love is using alcohol or drugs as an escape. Stop them before they start. If you know someone is depressed and living without hope do your best to bring some cheer to them and show them that life is good even if they aren't rich and "successful". i found out a few years ago that my best friend from elementary school fell prey to cocain. It wasnt her upbringing that did that to her. her family was clean and respectable. and well off financially. they were close and genuinely happy. but something happened and her parents ended up divorced. all i know is he lost his job and couldnt find another. her grandfather also died during that time. so dont always blame upbringing. sometimes, most of the time probably, its depression.

no its not an easy problem to fix but its one that society as a whole should take up as its responsibility to heal. remember you may think its the addicts problem, but it will become yours when you get robbed or killed. save your own life and livelihood by helping them to stop before they start.

they say it takes a village to raise a child.
and its also true that it takes a village to maintain the strength of the individual.

we are all one another's responsibility

amber
AC_KICKER

Campbellsville, KY

#33 Apr 9, 2006
Diamond wrote:
Drug court seems to be helping people to access recovery and working well across the nation.
I sgree drug court is a really good thing. I was on drugs for 3 yrs and i went to drug court and it is helped me alot. I would not have been able to give them up if it wasnt for dc. i also went to jail twice and you learn more in jail on what not to do to get caught than you do in the streets. DRUG COURT IS A GOOD THING.
Counselor

Russell Springs, KY

#34 Apr 10, 2006
I agree drug court is a valuable resource for folks who need. I've seen it help many teenagers.
Danny Ray Elkins

Kasson, MN

#35 Apr 10, 2006
I have seen both sides of the story. As I see it drug abuse is a crime. The most important care and treatment is before the adiction. I have not figured out why we baby drug adicts either. Reabilitation beats counceling and cuddling anytime. I am proof. Just ask my parents. I could have became a drug adict same as anyone. But not while my parents were alive. Know what I mean? And they are sill alive. Thak God. I know we all have it hardBut the ones who take the ez way out arn't the ones who have it the hardest. Someone has to take care of thir families left behind. Thus starts another hard luck story. Sorry no sobbing her. Bur I so feel sorry for them and their families....Danny Ray Elkins....
rebutal person wrote:
<quoted text> We need to put there butts in jail for 3-6 months and let them get rehabilitated, instead we coddle them and get them out of trouble, spend thousands of dollars with counceling and they do it over and over and over again. I am sick of the whole mess!
addicted to life

Grove City, PA

#36 Jun 4, 2006
good neighbor wrote:
That is true. However, an adult must be willing to sign themselves into a treatment program. I wonder how many of them would be.
Don't believe that those that do drugs like it brother.. it is an addiction. which means 99 percent hat what they do to themselves and the people that they effect by doing it. The federal government is to blame. they have no programs that are paid for. I went to a treatment center and they told me that they would only help me with an out patient program. Well I will tell you this much. Out patienyt programs have less than a 5 percent success rate for an addict.
What this means is what tax dollars do go towards treatment centers is a waste. In patient centers Brother? Well natrcanon which probably has a better than average success rate of around 40 percent is 14000.00. whith little or no aid from state local or federal agency's. This is why the problem has never gone away. Plus our government created half the drug cartels. such as noriega. They have allowed coke, pot and herion shipments into the usa for intelegence..The problem wont go away until everyone addict and non addict join hands and work together
help

Louisville, KY

#37 Jul 26, 2006
im hoping drug court helps
Momma

Hermitage, TN

#38 Jul 26, 2006
Drug/Alcohol addiction is a disease. Yes, it can go into remission. Untreated it is just as deadly as any other life threatening disease. The devastation of addiction leaves a wake that far surpasses the user. Their are many victims. Yes, people need to be responsible for their actions, however they also need treatment to put the addiction in remission. A combination of natural consequences, and treatment is very powerful. The number of treatment facilities are inadequate to meet the need. Many addicts don't get treatment because the cost is prohibitive. Outpatient treaatment is not enough. Most need residential treatment, and then outpatient follow up from a facility. It is more cost effective to treat the addiction than pay to keep someone incarcerated, or to pay for the damage the addict creates. A program is much needed in this area. This type of facility would also create much needed jobs in our area.
when help is needed

United States

#39 Jul 26, 2006
We don't need to argue about if people deserve help or not. They all do. We all deserve the chance of help being out there, if we take it or not because there will always be those that do and those that do not. It's all about choice. Help should be there if it is needed. I've seen the turmoil that drugs can reak on a life. I've seen mother's pimp their 6 year old daughters to get a fix, do they deserve help? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not there to judge, but do they need it? Yes. All the effort it takes to argue points of view on the subject is wasted when it could be used to reach a hand out. Maybe no one will take it, maybe they will and then turn around and take advantage of it. I just see it as my hand extended out with help might be the chance one person needs to make a change in their life and possibly the lives of others. Isn't that alone worth it? It all begins with one person.
chris

Glasgow, KY

#40 Jul 26, 2006
rebutal person wrote:
<quoted text> We need to put there butts in jail for 3-6 months and let them get rehabilitated, instead we coddle them and get them out of trouble, spend thousands of dollars with counceling and they do it over and over and over again. I am sick of the whole mess!
you need to talk to (chad hunt in cave city ky ,,cave city church )about that he can get these kids in a program and from what i have seen it works gets them back on track

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