City wants drug recovery center

Campbellsville could be-come home to a state-funded center seeking to combat drug addiction and homelessness in the Bluegrass state. Full Story
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dana

Elizabethtown, KY

#1 Mar 13, 2006
i agree with this there is way to many people addicted to drugs and everyone just acts like it is there own problems
kinlee

Hermitage, TN

#2 Mar 13, 2006
A treatment center is much needed in this area. It would be beneficial not only to provide treatment, but to bring much needed jobs. There are not enough treatment programs to fill the need, especially state funded programs. This could be important for our region.
hillbilly

Glasgow, KY

#3 Mar 15, 2006
does anyone know what companies are wanting to come to Russellsprings, Ky. I have heard a mini-mall, but what stores would come with a small mall that we don't already have?
CanoeRichmondVA

Richmond, VA

#4 Mar 17, 2006
Can anyone provide information on river access to Tygart Creek at/near Rt 60 and I64 in Olive Hill, KY. I am plannning a canoe trip from this point to Carter Caves State Park in late April. My map indicates that there may be a small (dirt?) road at the intersection of Rt 182 Cecil Rd and Rt 60. Is this an accessable road that I can use to get to Tygart Creek? Do I need permission to access this road? Are there any hotels in the area?
voter

Hodgenville, KY

#5 Mar 20, 2006
Yes. yes. yes. we need a drug treatment center in this town.. i run a business and have hired 4 kids in the last 6 months and they all four had a drug problem.. they were all good kids but had a problem they could not shake.....
One of their mothers told me to get them in a treatment facility it was going to cost about 4000.00 a month.....because they did not have insurance on the kid he was 21 years old. not many people could afford that...
rebutal person

Leitchfield, KY

#6 Mar 24, 2006
voter wrote:
Yes. yes. yes. we need a drug treatment center in this town.. i run a business and have hired 4 kids in the last 6 months and they all four had a drug problem.. they were all good kids but had a problem they could not shake.....
One of their mothers told me to get them in a treatment facility it was going to cost about 4000.00 a month.....because they did not have insurance on the kid he was 21 years old. not many people could afford that...
We need to put there butts in jail for 3-6 months and let them get rehabilitated, instead we coddle them and get them out of trouble, spend thousands of dollars with counceling and they do it over and over and over again. I am sick of the whole mess!
WOW

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Mar 27, 2006
rebutal person wrote:
<quoted text> We need to put there butts in jail for 3-6 months and let them get rehabilitated, instead we coddle them and get them out of trouble, spend thousands of dollars with counceling and they do it over and over and over again. I am sick of the whole mess!
I agree that we do coddle these people, who never take responsibility for their actions. But to just throw them in jail for a couple of months is not going to get them off the drugs. My understanding is that there are more opportunities to secure drugs in jail than there are on the outside. There has to be some type of balance between punishment and treatment.
good neighbor

Russell Springs, KY

#8 Mar 27, 2006
That is true. However, an adult must be willing to sign themselves into a treatment program. I wonder how many of them would be.
fed up

Leitchfield, KY

#9 Mar 27, 2006
WOW wrote:
<quoted text>I agree that we do coddle these people, who never take responsibility for their actions. But to just throw them in jail for a couple of months is not going to get them off the drugs. My understanding is that there are more opportunities to secure drugs in jail than there are on the outside. There has to be some type of balance between punishment and treatment.
There probably are drugs in jail but there resources would be limited, and the jail takes what money they have. If they are in jail they would not be able to lie,steal, and write cold checks to get drugs. They could come off cold turkey, it would be uncomfortable but it would not be life threatening (except for alchol withdraw), and then they would be REHABILITATED.
WOW

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Mar 28, 2006
fed up wrote:
<quoted text> There probably are drugs in jail but there resources would be limited, and the jail takes what money they have. If they are in jail they would not be able to lie,steal, and write cold checks to get drugs. They could come off cold turkey, it would be uncomfortable but it would not be life threatening (except for alchol withdraw), and then they would be REHABILITATED.
Their resources would be limited if we think of resources as only being money. But these people use other things, such as their bodies as resources. I don't know what the answer is here, but I'm not convinced that a few months in the pokie is enough to rehabilitate them. Being an ex-smoker, I know that quitting the drug is only part of it. Staying off the drug is the other part. These loosers don't want to quit the drug and while they may stay clean during their time in jail---I wonder what the chances of them staying clean is?
Hmmm

Elizabethtown, KY

#11 Mar 28, 2006
WOW wrote:
<quoted text> Their resources would be limited if we think of resources as only being money. But these people use other things, such as their bodies as resources. I don't know what the answer is here, but I'm not convinced that a few months in the pokie is enough to rehabilitate them. Being an ex-smoker, I know that quitting the drug is only part of it. Staying off the drug is the other part. These loosers don't want to quit the drug and while they may stay clean during their time in jail---I wonder what the chances of them staying clean is?
What exactly did you smoke? If it is cigarettes then you can't compare. If it is something more, then are you classifing yourself as a loser? You call these people with problems losers (loosers in your words.) Some of these people need and want help, so just because they made a wrong turn in life doesn't make them a loser. They are someones children.
WOW

Cincinnati, OH

#12 Mar 28, 2006
Hmmm wrote:
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What exactly did you smoke? If it is cigarettes then you can't compare. If it is something more, then are you classifing yourself as a loser? You call these people with problems losers (loosers in your words.) Some of these people need and want help, so just because they made a wrong turn in life doesn't make them a loser. They are someones children.
You're right, I was too general in my statement. I apologize for offending you. The losers I speak of are those who continue to take the wrong turn throughout their life while denying that they hold any responsibility for their choices and thus their actions. Those are the losers I speak of. Those and the ones who enable them to be losers.

As far as smoking not being comparable with other drug addictions, I disagree. Research has found that nicotine addiction can be as strong as heroine or cocaine addiction. Giving up the cigarettes has been the hardest thing I've done in my life.

I'm assuming that someone close to you has an addiction. My brother is an addict who has chosen to live his life on the streets in order to avoid any restrictive rules regarding his drug use. As much as my family tried to help him, he continues to take the wrong turns in life, but he's happy with that. It's heart breaking, but some times you just have to let go.
Hmmm

Elizabethtown, KY

#13 Mar 29, 2006
I think a baby withdrawing from crack is far worse than the withdrawl symptoms I experienced by giving up smoking.
Hmmmmm

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Mar 29, 2006
Hmmm wrote:
I think a baby withdrawing from crack is far worse than the withdrawl symptoms I experienced by giving up smoking.
Certainly, because they don't understand and don't have the capability to cope. But we weren't talking babies here.
Hmmm

Campbellsville, KY

#15 Mar 29, 2006
Hmmmmm wrote:
<quoted text>Certainly, because they don't understand and don't have the capability to cope. But we weren't talking babies here.
We were talking about the difference in gigarettes and crack..Thank you. It doesn't matter who is withdrawing from it they still don't know how to cope from.
Hmmm

Campbellsville, KY

#16 Mar 29, 2006
TYPO: Cigarettes
Thankful

AOL

#17 Mar 29, 2006
Hmmm wrote:
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We were talking about the difference in gigarettes and crack..Thank you. It doesn't matter who is withdrawing from it they still don't know how to cope from.
That is true. If a person wants to become drug free they have to be very strong. I know it is very hard for them. I'm sure they can use all the support they can get. I have a family member on drugs and he is trying to get clean. I try to support him in every way that I can. Each day that he is clean is a very good day and I let him know that. If he should fall one day I will not condeme him but tell him to go from that day forward and keep trying. He is a very good hearted person. All the small children in the family love him very much.I get so mad to hear people say losers. There are professional people out there on drugs. Surgeons, lawyers. No-one is exempt. They are people with a very bad illness that they need cure for. A lot of support is helpful and putting them down doesn't do anything but make matters worse. If the people calling them losers would take a good long look at their own family I betcha they have a drug user there somewhere.
support dont enable

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Mar 30, 2006
Thankful wrote:
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That is true. If a person wants to become drug free they have to be very strong. I know it is very hard for them. I'm sure they can use all the support they can get. I have a family member on drugs and he is trying to get clean. I try to support him in every way that I can. Each day that he is clean is a very good day and I let him know that. If he should fall one day I will not condeme him but tell him to go from that day forward and keep trying. He is a very good hearted person. All the small children in the family love him very much.I get so mad to hear people say losers. There are professional people out there on drugs. Surgeons, lawyers. No-one is exempt. They are people with a very bad illness that they need cure for. A lot of support is helpful and putting them down doesn't do anything but make matters worse. If the people calling them losers would take a good long look at their own family I betcha they have a drug user there somewhere.
Yes, give all the support you have the strength to give. But don't enable these people to continue making bad choices. Addiction is not a disease. That's the excuse that is used to not take responsibility for one's action. Everytime I chose to light a smoke, I was making a choice. I had to take responsibility for my health and my actions--and I had to quit. It wasn't easy, and I needed encouragement and support, and everytime I failed, I considered myself a loser. If I go back to it, it will be a choice I make and I will consider myself a loser for giving into an addiction. I will not consider myself sick with a disease--that would be the easy way out.
Thankful

AOL

#19 Mar 30, 2006
You don't have a clue. Powerful drugs are so much harder to quit than cigarettes. There is no comparsion. loving and supporting someone is enableing. that is caring. It most certainly is a sickness once a person is hooked on them.
good neighbor

Russell Springs, KY

#20 Mar 30, 2006
According to the medical model, addiction is a disease. That is why doctors sometimes choose methadone as a treatment. When an addict goes through withdrawals, they actually have medical symptoms.
I agree drugs would be much harder to quit than cigarettes.
Addicts need love and support but they must be willing to make a change for themselves. No one can do it for them.

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