Hundreds of birds die in western Ky.

Jan 5, 2011 Full story: The Cincinnati Enquirer 81,677

MURRAY, Ky. - State wildlife officials say "several hundred" dead birds were found near the Murray State University campus last week.

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Ancient Wolf

Lexington, KY

#79713 Dec 29, 2012
Freedom of Speech also includes Freedom to not speak.
Ancient Wolf

Lexington, KY

#79714 Dec 29, 2012
Even a fish would not get caught, if it kept it's mouth shut LOL
Ancient Wolf

Lexington, KY

#79715 Dec 29, 2012
You folks have a good night, I am going to go check the 8pm tv listings. Surely something on somewhere.
Hempburn

Whitley City, KY

#79716 Dec 29, 2012
Ancient Wolf wrote:
If milk goes to $8 a gallon as some predict, we might all want some goats.
When Americans snob their nose at goats milk, the other 70% of the planet snobs their nose at our cow milk. Goat milk is enjoyed by 70% of the world.

The "S" word is falling here too and the ground is lightly covered.
Abeliever

Vine Grove, KY

#79717 Dec 29, 2012
So the Wildcats lost the Battle of the Bluegrass. Rare, but they were down 17, ranked 23rd, a bunch of freshman AGAIN battling Juniors/Seniors ranked 3rd. Until March we are still the Champs, although most of them are playing with the NBA. lol It was a good game, lost by 3. Could possibly have won it in the last couple minutes if they had made their free throws. Oh well...like someone posted on FB..

Cardinals are red, Wildcats are blue, we have 8 titles, and you only have 2! Go Cats!

hahaha
Abeliever

Vine Grove, KY

#79719 Dec 29, 2012
No, don't go yet AW, I found the cutest story scanning the headlines you will love....

After couple saves chicken, chicken clucks to the rescue in house fire

Karma came to Wisconsin in the guise of a lame-footed chicken named Cluck Cluck, whose excited clucking saved her owners and herself from being burned in a house fire. Dennis Murawska adopted Cluck Cluck from a neighbor who had decided to kill her when she stopped producing eggs. Treating Cluck Cluck like a pet, he built her a fine coop and moved her into his basement during cold weather. Little did he know Cluck Cluck would save him right back, by clucking at full blast from the basement at 6:15 a.m. when a fire broke out in the house. Her frantic calls woke Dennis and his wife, who were lying two stories above, while their two cats ran around doing absolutely nothing.[Source]

http://now.msn.com/chicken-clucking-saves-cou...

Even CHICKENS can be your best friends.:)
Abeliever

Vine Grove, KY

#79723 Dec 29, 2012
None here except what was on the grass this morning...hahaha Hope Indiana and all of you keep it where you are. lol It is cold. Real cold.
Abeliever

Vine Grove, KY

#79724 Dec 29, 2012
Hempburn wrote:
<quoted text>
When Americans snob their nose at goats milk, the other 70% of the planet snobs their nose at our cow milk. Goat milk is enjoyed by 70% of the world.
The "S" word is falling here too and the ground is lightly covered.
I can live without milk, just don't take my coffee. lol
W KY Girl

Mchenry, IL

#79725 Dec 29, 2012
Hempburn wrote:
<quoted text>
When Americans snob their nose at goats milk, the other 70% of the planet snobs their nose at our cow milk. Goat milk is enjoyed by 70% of the world.
The "S" word is falling here too and the ground is lightly covered.
I like goat milk better than cow milk and really I like goat meat better than beef. Goat milk is hard to find here and higher than cow milk is in the grocery. Sure wish I had a supplier though.:) But of course "home grown" goat milk is illegal to purchase. Have to break the law to get it!
Hempburn

Whitley City, KY

#79728 Dec 29, 2012
W KY Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
I like goat milk better than cow milk and really I like goat meat better than beef. Goat milk is hard to find here and higher than cow milk is in the grocery. Sure wish I had a supplier though.:) But of course "home grown" goat milk is illegal to purchase. Have to break the law to get it!
you are one up on me, I did not know you could not sell milk, bummer. I make butter and it would be nice to be able find someone who did, even goat.
Abeliever

Vine Grove, KY

#79733 Dec 29, 2012
@Hempburn:

Why is it illegal to sell or get raw milk?

The FDA of course. You can eat chocolate with all its rodent hair and bug parts with their blessing but not raw milk.

2 ways around it. In some states they're allowed to sell raw milk in containers as long as it's marked "for animal consumption only" ( I have sold this in Whole Foods in Florida).

The other way, if you own a farm you can drink the milk( your farm your cows) so dairies allow you to buy 1 share in the farm which makes you an "owner" making it legal to buy.

Raw milk cheeses aged less then 60 days are also illegal in the USA ( but not in Europe). Pregnant women and people with low immune systems shouldn't drink or eat unpastaurized milk products.

Outside of that the risks of getting sick are extremely low.

Pasteurizing milk kills the flavor because it kills most of the bacteria.

People often ask "why does cheese in Europe taste so much better"? That's the reason.(unpastaurized).

The FDA and USDA in the USA are a confused bunch.
In reality you can get sick with almost all badly mishandled meat, poultry, fish, dairy, and many other products.

Years ago( 1960's) there was an accident in Europe with a cheese called "Vacherin Mont D'or" ( the Swiss version, not the French) which caused some deaths. Similar to the infamous "Jack in The Box" accident. This caused the stir about pasteurization here in the US ( but not where it happened in Europe)! Things happen. That's life.
The ironic part about the mishap was that the Swiss were experimenting with pasteurizing at that time.

The batch that caused the contamination was caused by improper pasteuization which caused a deadly bacteria to grow in the cheese.
Had they have left if raw it would have never happened.

To bad unpasteurized milk and cheeses(aged under 60 days ) are illegal when you can can sick taking your children to Taco Bell or some other fast food place while the incidents with unpasteaurized milk products are almost nil in the rest of the world.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

It is illegal in many areas to sell goat's milk without being a fully licensed and USDA-certified dairy because of health concerns.
Abeliever

Vine Grove, KY

#79742 Dec 29, 2012
Sorry about the cut and paste, I know you all hate that. It is more factual than in my own words. Sybil probably has more on it.

Taking a hot bath with some Constant Comment Orange Spice tea, candles and some alone time. Might be back later.

Have a good evening.
W KY Girl

Mchenry, IL

#79745 Dec 29, 2012
Hempburn wrote:
<quoted text>
you are one up on me, I did not know you could not sell milk, bummer. I make butter and it would be nice to be able find someone who did, even goat.
Yeah, what all she said.:) They are afraid we are so stupid we will kill ourselves drinking bad milk. The government has really got nasty about it too. They demand that it be pasteurized and that kills all of the good bacteria in it so then you may as well buy the "processed to death" stuff out of the grocery. But if you check around you might be able to find some where you are. Check with some Mennonites. I use to buy it here but my supplier moved away. Sounds like buying drugs huh? lol The government feels about the same about it!

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Level 1

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#79754 Dec 29, 2012
Ancient Wolf wrote:
Even a fish would not get caught, if it kept it's mouth shut LOL
That's the reason so many Large Mouth Bass get caught. Some people should learn from the Shad. Fishers lie, fish don't.

“TELLING IT LIKE IT IS”

Level 1

Since: Apr 09

FARTSBURG

#79770 Dec 29, 2012
Abeliever wrote:
No, don't go yet AW, I found the cutest story scanning the headlines you will love....
After couple saves chicken, chicken clucks to the rescue in house fire
Karma came to Wisconsin in the guise of a lame-footed chicken named Cluck Cluck, whose excited clucking saved her owners and herself from being burned in a house fire. Dennis Murawska adopted Cluck Cluck from a neighbor who had decided to kill her when she stopped producing eggs. Treating Cluck Cluck like a pet, he built her a fine coop and moved her into his basement during cold weather. Little did he know Cluck Cluck would save him right back, by clucking at full blast from the basement at 6:15 a.m. when a fire broke out in the house. Her frantic calls woke Dennis and his wife, who were lying two stories above, while their two cats ran around doing absolutely nothing.[Source]
http://now.msn.com/chicken-clucking-saves-cou...
Even CHICKENS can be your best friends.:)
That was a nice story, AB. I assure everyone Buddha had nothing to do with it. LOL. That's the way it goes AB. Those soft little kitty's are sooooo nice, but sometimes they do nothing worthwhile. Hehehe.
Hempbun

Whitley City, KY

#79781 Dec 29, 2012
Abeliever wrote:
Sorry about the cut and paste, I know you all hate that. It is more factual than in my own words. Sybil probably has more on it.
Taking a hot bath with some Constant Comment Orange Spice tea, candles and some alone time. Might be back later.
Have a good evening.
I remember drinking fresh cow's milk while visiting my grandparents and seems it was ok. I never heard of anyone dying from drinking fresh milk, unless the cow fell on them.

Probably will be illegal to eat fresh eggs at the rate things are going. Buggers.

Level 1

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#79783 Dec 29, 2012
Hi Una. Not so about the kitties. I have a cat that brings me cash. Hubby carelessly stuffs his extra money in his jeans pockets. Well, one of my cats retrieves cash and brings it to me...and always to me. We hit the jackpot when kitty brought me a 20 dollar bill. Too bad for hubby. That cash kitty sure knows what she is doing. Best pick-pocket I've ever seen.
bob

Louisville, KY

#79784 Dec 29, 2012
Imposter is full of shit. Like his name Imposter---Probably gay.
Hempbun

Whitley City, KY

#79785 Dec 29, 2012
W KY Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, what all she said.:) They are afraid we are so stupid we will kill ourselves drinking bad milk. The government has really got nasty about it too. They demand that it be pasteurized and that kills all of the good bacteria in it so then you may as well buy the "processed to death" stuff out of the grocery. But if you check around you might be able to find some where you are. Check with some Mennonites. I use to buy it here but my supplier moved away. Sounds like buying drugs huh? lol The government feels about the same about it!
Ol uncle sam has to have his fingers in everyone's pie. They want safe milk while killing us with our drinking water. I buy heavy cream to make butter, but I may make it a point to find a local old timer with an ugly cow or two for some fresh stuff. shhhhhh.

Level 1

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#79787 Dec 29, 2012
Hempbun wrote:
<quoted text>
I remember drinking fresh cow's milk while visiting my grandparents and seems it was ok. I never heard of anyone dying from drinking fresh milk, unless the cow fell on them.
Probably will be illegal to eat fresh eggs at the rate things are going. Buggers.
I remember drinking fresh cow's milk when I was a kid. The farmer would bring over a few bottles. The cream on the top was the best part. Oh, those were the days. The farmer would make me a special bottle of chocolate milk.(At that age, I thought it came from a brown cow, LOL)

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