A year later, Creation Museum claimin...

A year later, Creation Museum claiming big crowds

There are 311 comments on the Santa Cruz Sentinel story from Oct 10, 2008, titled A year later, Creation Museum claiming big crowds. In it, Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that:

This Thursday, July 6, 2006 file photo shows an exhibit depicting two archeologists coming to very different conclusions while unearthing the same skeleton, is part of what will become the Creation Museum, near ...

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Duh

El Paso, TX

#299 Nov 16, 2008
Curious wrote:
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No my intent is not to play games. I am dead serious and I am not loose in the head. These are questions that I look for answers. Like so many others, I just find the beginning of time untill now so interesting and so much left to try and understand. Theologians, scientist, archeologist, etc., can't possibly have even begun to reach the tip of the iceburg; so to speak. This world and how we came to be and in what sequence is so amazing.
See 'carbon-14 dating' and compare the oldest human skeleton to the newest true dinosaur skeleton. They are separated by tens of thousands of years.

Don't believe everything, well anything you read on 'creation science' or 'intelligent design' websites.

Since: Jul 08

Morristown, NJ

#300 Nov 16, 2008
tiredofthesos wrote:
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I can live with that. I do think you are being sincere, and trying to be reasonable. That's all I am doing, or able to do, so I'm quite able to accept it.
Peace.
thanks - and peace to you as well :-)

Since: Jul 08

Morristown, NJ

#301 Nov 16, 2008
Karen wrote:
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This seems to be winding down and I wanted to thank you for making this an interesting and civil conversation. From what I've seen theists on secular sites get treated very badly as do atheists on theist forums. The pile-ons get pretty ugly and vicious with very little real communication and a whole lot of insults tossed around. It's embarrassing to watch, not to mention boring and repetitious.. It's a shame that online anonymity seems to bring out the worst in so many people. Anyway, thanks :)
I agree with you Karen - it's nice when people can come to an understanding of one another, in spite of their different viewpoints.

Since: Jul 08

Morristown, NJ

#302 Nov 16, 2008
rockondon wrote:
Still in Stamford,
You are awesome. Humble, sincere, honest, open-minded...I wish all Christians were like you. We may have different beliefs you and I, but deep down I suspect we have much in common.
This discussion seems to be dwindling but if we never talk again, take care and God bless.
---rockondon
Rockondon, I am honored, and don't quite know what to say - except thank you. I do hope that sometime you will meet other Christians that you feel the same way about - I know they are out there! I also suspect that if we met, we'd be able to get along just fine, and we'd have some very interesting conversations! I wish you the best in life.
Embarrassed in Hebron

Cincinnati, OH

#303 Dec 2, 2008
I am glad the Zoo got out of the idiotic deal with the creationist wackos. I can't believe someone thought it would be a good idea to align the zoo with a cult. I have been a zoo member for over ten years and it would have been a shame to stop renewing because some pr guy thinks creationism is a good idea. I would have to think that the zoo is getting their pr consulting from someplace else from now on.
Believe in Creator God

Northbrook, IL

#304 Dec 2, 2008
To " God is scientific "...read comments from "Elco Mom" she quotes the Bible correctly..She is not an ignorant fool. If you were God & could create whatever you wanted would you need science to create...No, you would just create because you are God. Obviously you are not God but a creature of God. He created whatever "science" you see. But it is all creation & he created in an orderly manner just like GM creates a car, they use natural resources already created by God to create something from his creation...I remember once when I was so distressed about my life, it seemed it had no purpose whatsoever & I was ready to give up on Life, yes, I prayed & God answered & revealed himself. He has done that also by coming down as a baby, in human form, through a human mother, Mary. He came to die for our sins & because of our sins we cannot see Him, until we commit our lives to Him. If you really want the truth you can start in the Bible, Genesis I were it reads all about the creation of this Earth & Adam & Eve. It should comfort you to know that you do have a personal God who knows all about you,
Tman

San Antonio, TX

#305 Dec 2, 2008
Believe in Creator God wrote:
To " God is scientific "...read comments from "Elco Mom" she quotes the Bible correctly..She is not an ignorant fool. If you were God & could create whatever you wanted would you need science to create...No, you would just create because you are God. Obviously you are not God but a creature of God. He created whatever "science" you see. But it is all creation & he created in an orderly manner just like GM creates a car, they use natural resources already created by God to create something from his creation...I remember once when I was so distressed about my life, it seemed it had no purpose whatsoever & I was ready to give up on Life, yes, I prayed & God answered & revealed himself. He has done that also by coming down as a baby, in human form, through a human mother, Mary. He came to die for our sins & because of our sins we cannot see Him, until we commit our lives to Him. If you really want the truth you can start in the Bible, Genesis I were it reads all about the creation of this Earth & Adam & Eve. It should comfort you to know that you do have a personal God who knows all about you,
Did you forget to take your thorazine again??

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#306 Dec 3, 2008
Believe in Creator God wrote:
But it is all creation & he created in an orderly manner just like GM creates a car,
You know very little about this creation you're so thankful for. The universe is far from orderly.
Bongela

Trenton, NJ

#307 Mar 17, 2009
Hmm... that's flawed logic. To say that something "applies to you but not to me" is to say truth is relative or unknowable.- b
The Real Truth wrote:
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Again, circular logic. You may BELIEVE in a living God, and that is good for you. BUT, it is a fundamental belief - faith if you will, not something provable. You cannot prove a living god exists, and you most certainly cannot prove that the god you believe in is any more real than anyone else's god(s) whom they also believe is living.
I'm not knocking your faith. Just trying to get you to understand that there are many perspectives and what you believe in and may work for you does not necessarily apply to others.
Sanity_Rules

Palo Alto, CA

#308 Mar 18, 2009
Bongela wrote:
Hmm... that's flawed logic. To say that something "applies to you but not to me" is to say truth is relative or unknowable.- b
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Not flawed at all.

Belief in a god may apply to you, but it does not apply to me.

Has nothing to do with "truth". It is your "belief" that a supreme being exists.
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#309 Oct 9, 2009
Sure are a lot of people on here who don't believe in God, mock Christianity, and are indignant. Does Christianity scare you more than the false religions of Islam, Buddha, Hinduism, New Age, etc.? It must since you attack it so vehemently.
TraderJay

Lancaster, PA

#310 Oct 10, 2009
What is the Creationists view on the evolution of Earth (South America and Africa were once joined & the explaination on why the rocky planets are closer to the Sun than the gaseous planets??)
Martina2

Campbell, CA

#312 Oct 10, 2009
America is dumbing down rapidly, there's no escaping that fact. I'd bet half the American people could not locate the United States of America on a labeled map of North America.
thomas paine

Lancaster, PA

#313 Oct 11, 2009
lee greenwoods hairpiece/ thanks for quoting the great thomas paine, if more of these religious whack jobs would read paine, things would be a lot better. one of my favorite books is Paines The Age Of Reason
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#314 Oct 11, 2009
TraderJay wrote: "What is the Creationists view on the evolution of Earth (South America and Africa were once joined & the explaination on why the rocky planets are closer to the Sun than the gaseous planets??) "

The answer to the continents being joined at one time, from the Creationist viewpoint, is that the Flood caused these land masses to separate, if I'm not mistaken. I'm not sure about the rocky planet thing except that that is the way God placed them.
Martina2

Campbell, CA

#315 Oct 11, 2009
ccrider wrote:
Sure are a lot of people on here who don't believe in God, mock Christianity, and are indignant. Does Christianity scare you more than the false religions of Islam, Buddha, Hinduism, New Age, etc.? It must since you attack it so vehemently.
Why do evangelical christians mock science?

It is entirely possible for people to believe in god and believe in the principles and postulates of science - they are not mutually exclusive. I resent the fact that many christians (I am catholic) ask us to give up thinking freely and rationally in order to embrace fairy tale parables concerning the origins of our planet. It is not necessary to interpret the parables and stories of the bible litersally in order to believe in god.
ccrider

Owensboro, KY

#316 Oct 11, 2009
Martina2 wrote: "Why do evangelical christians mock science?

It is entirely possible for people to believe in god and believe in the principles and postulates of science - they are not mutually exclusive. I resent the fact that many christians (I am catholic) ask us to give up thinking freely and rationally in order to embrace fairy tale parables concerning the origins of our planet. It is not necessary to interpret the parables and stories of the bible litersally in order to believe in god. "

Let us expand upon this. Do you believe that man started out as a monkey? Do you believe in the big bang theory? What parts of the bible do you take literally and what parts do you discard as fairy tales? How do you discern what to keep and what to throw away? Why do make these decisons? Do you believe in the virgin birth, the crucifixtion, and the resurrection? I'm interested in your answers to these questions. Thanks.
Richard

Irvine, CA

#317 Oct 11, 2009
Christianity is very good business. They've got the gorts payin' for their own propaganda.
Richard

Irvine, CA

#318 Oct 11, 2009
ccrider wrote:
Sure are a lot of people on here who don't believe in God, mock Christianity, and are indignant. Does Christianity scare you more than the false religions of Islam, Buddha, Hinduism, New Age, etc.? It must since you attack it so vehemently.
"Does Christianity scare you...?"
It should! Look at the history of slaughter and intimidation. Christianity is very weak now but the potential is there.
Martina2

Campbell, CA

#319 Oct 11, 2009
ccrider wrote:
Martina2 wrote: "Why do evangelical christians mock science?
It is entirely possible for people to believe in god and believe in the principles and postulates of science - they are not mutually exclusive. I resent the fact that many christians (I am catholic) ask us to give up thinking freely and rationally in order to embrace fairy tale parables concerning the origins of our planet. It is not necessary to interpret the parables and stories of the bible litersally in order to believe in god. "
Let us expand upon this. Do you believe that man started out as a ****? Do you believe in the big bang theory? What parts of the bible do you take literally and what parts do you discard as fairy tales? How do you discern what to keep and what to throw away? Why do make these decisons? Do you believe in the virgin birth, the crucifixtion, and the resurrection? I'm interested in your answers to these questions. Thanks.
I will try to be brief and honest.
1-Do you believe that man started out as a ****? If ****= a clump of cells that divided and eventually evolved eventually into man, then yes, it seems entirely probable to me.
2-Do you believe in the big bang theory? Yes, until a better theory is proffered, I accept it.
3-What parts of the bible do you take literally and what parts do you discard as fairy tales? I take very little literally, especially stories like Jonah/Whale - to me they are allegories, intended to impart a lesson.
4-How do you discern what to keep and what to throw away? I keep whatever I find to be of value, isn't that what many people do?
5-Why do make these decisons? I do this based on my free will and my thoughts on the stories of the bible.
6-Do you believe in the virgin birth, the crucifixtion, and the resurrection? Virgin Birth? No. Crucifixion? Yes. Ressurection? If you believe in an afterlife then you believe in resurrection. Do I? I hope there's an afterlife, I won't know until I die.

I think that there may have been a creator (god) that put all of this into motion, but really, I have no idea.

I'm not being facetious here, I'm not mocking religion. I believe in god, however I do not literally believe many of the stories.

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