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Don

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#42
Jun 7, 2012
 
Outstanding wrote:
You said they were written by Matthew and Mark. I stated there is no evidence to that. You stated it as a fact and it very likely they did not write them. Did you google and read some of what the Biblical scholars said? Explain to me how you know for sure, when there are many (much smarter than us and just as Christian as you) who state that they probably did not or it just can not be proved.
I freely admit that I used the Book of Mark by the reference that is used by every Holy Bible in Christendom and has been for 2,000 years. In my John MacArthur Study Bible, Macarthur states,

"Unlike the epistles, the gospels do not name their authors. The early church fathers, however, unanimously affirm tht Mark wrote this second gospel."

I assume that you are referring to The Synoptic Problem, MacArthur states as the bottom line,

"The simplest solution to the Synoptic Problem is that no such problem exists! Because critics cannot prove literary dependence between the gospel writers, there is no need to explain it. The traditional view that the gospel writers were inspired by God and wrote independently of each other - except that all 3 were moved by the same Holy Spirit (2Pet.1:21)- remains the only plausible view.

Here is my bottom line. For the last two thousand years the books have been named as they are today. The early church fathers concurred with the authors of the gospels. You, nor anyone else, can produce proof to the contrary. The ball is in your court to prove otherwise.
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Jun 7, 2012
 
Revelations wrote:
<quoted text> I I agree brother, but ive debated with anti theist for over 3 months on and off, he is his own. Depart from him.
Yeah, there does come a time when the only sensible course of action is to leave the mocker and the scoffer to God. When Christ spoke to the rich man in torment, He told the rich man that if his brothers wouldn't listen to the prophets, they wouldn't listen to anyone returning from the dead. We are not prophets; however, we have told this man about the gospel, and his only desire is to disprove the message of salvation. We are like the dead coming to life. We were spiritually dead before the Holy Spirit came to us and now we are alive to eternal life in Christ.
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#44
Jun 7, 2012
 
amen brother
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Jun 7, 2012
 
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May I ask why I should not argue, is this your command? When were these ways done away with?
examples, and jesus said,''in the old days it was commanded eye for an eye, but i tell you if your enemy smite thee on the cheek,turn to him the other. In the old days It was considered adultry to have sex, but i say whosoever look upon another women with lust had commited adultry in his heart. A few more NT scripture does away with OT, not all of OT but some....we can eat all things taken with grace, which means meats are no longer unclean. Ect ect. We are under pity not law, but that still does not mean we can act an idiot and not suffer consequences....faith w/o works is dead, and works alone can not save you....meaning? You must do gods will and have faith in christ.

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#46
Jun 7, 2012
 
"I really don't care if you don't have the proof that you want regarding the Scriptures and God." That's fine. But if you keep making founded claims, I'll continue correcting them.

"The Scriptures do tell us that there are people who are the children of Satan. I've been trying to get you to face that" No thanks, I'm not interested in joining your cult.
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I'm not the only one who thinks you are dealing with anger issues and a great deal of pride. Those are your issues to deal with, not me.
You didn't answer my question. Do you understand what I told you about salvation, Heaven, and Hell?
I really don't care if you don't have the proof that you want regarding the Scriptures and God. You don't have to answer this question. I don't care if you think any claims on the divinity of Christ are unfounded or that no evidence exists. Christians are supposed to tell people about these things. They are not responsible for making you believe.
The Scriptures do tell us that there are people who are the children of Satan. I've been trying to get you to face that, but ultimately, the responsibility is on your shoulders alone and so are the consequences.
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Feb 18, 2013
 
This was some good reading.

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#48
Feb 22, 2013
 
The day I found Christ, was the day I was at complete rest. I no longer roamed this earth looking for purpose. I found it I grow daily in the word. Has I grow in the word the closer he come to me. Sometime he is right beside of me. I feel that Holy Hush, That Love he has for me, I do things that pleases him. The world hates me, He told me they hated me first, My family don't understand me, Nor do I understand them now. He said know one understood him when he was here either. He my best friend, he is all I have he my rest my peace my joy and my suffering is long sometime, But someday I stand with the righteous. AMEN

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#49
Feb 22, 2013
 
"The day I found Christ, was the day I was at complete rest." You found Jesus? Where is he?

"I no longer roamed this earth looking for purpose." Even to the North Pole?

"Sometime he is right beside of me." Can you see him? What does he look like? Did you get out your video camera in time?

"My family don't understand me, Nor do I understand them now." And now begin those Christian family values, like those expressed by Jesus: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." That is another example of how religion effectiviely divides people, even family.
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The day I found Christ, was the day I was at complete rest. I no longer roamed this earth looking for purpose. I found it I grow daily in the word. Has I grow in the word the closer he come to me. Sometime he is right beside of me. I feel that Holy Hush, That Love he has for me, I do things that pleases him. The world hates me, He told me they hated me first, My family don't understand me, Nor do I understand them now. He said know one understood him when he was here either. He my best friend, he is all I have he my rest my peace my joy and my suffering is long sometime, But someday I stand with the righteous. AMEN

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#50
Mar 1, 2013
 
He lives in me in my heart. He's a spirit, He talks to me and goes were I go. When I surrender my life to him, It felt like a 1000lb weight come off of me.I knew then I was set free from sin it was like a load come off. I was at rest I was know longer looking for anything else my heart and my desires was full. I was complete. I had purpose meaning, and the Bible come open to me.I knew what Jesus was talking about. I been like this for 12yrs no matter what goes on I am a peace. I had a terrible temper I would go off on everything. After that I seen it was stupid for doing that, it stopped to. I had a lot of growing up to do, I fell a lot but he was always there to pick me. I wouldn't never go back to what I was.

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#51
Mar 1, 2013
 
"He lives in me in my heart." If you ever have heart surgery, will the doctors find him in there, maybe sitting on his little throne?

"He's a spirit" What is a spirit and what evidence do you have that it exists?
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He lives in me in my heart. He's a spirit, He talks to me and goes were I go. When I surrender my life to him, It felt like a 1000lb weight come off of me.I knew then I was set free from sin it was like a load come off. I was at rest I was know longer looking for anything else my heart and my desires was full. I was complete. I had purpose meaning, and the Bible come open to me.I knew what Jesus was talking about. I been like this for 12yrs no matter what goes on I am a peace. I had a terrible temper I would go off on everything. After that I seen it was stupid for doing that, it stopped to. I had a lot of growing up to do, I fell a lot but he was always there to pick me. I wouldn't never go back to what I was.
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#52
Mar 2, 2013
 
Jesus saves Green Stamps .(SHOwiNG MY AGE ) Gotta go saw an adulterer that needs stoning .

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Mar 3, 2013
 
I see now I have gotten a hold of a person with a mind of a child. Is lost and does not know about spiritual things. If it hid Its hid from those who are lost. I want cast my pearls at swine, only to those who want to know what truth is. This person anti-theist is lost has lost can be 100.00 says he is Gay. without a life.

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#54
Mar 4, 2013
 
Eleventh commandment :
Thou shalt not try to combat intelligent thought whilst remaining functionally illiterate .

I must be going senile since i can not comprehend anything most of you bible thumpers post .

Cyclical thinking (using bible quotes to substantiate the bible ) is in no way intelligent .

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#55
Mar 4, 2013
 
quote ". If it hid Its hid from those who are lost. I want cast my pearls at swine, only to those who want to know what truth is."
WTF does this mean sounds like insane rambling 2 me .

Better 2 cast pearls at swine than 2 cast stones at sinners ?

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Mar 4, 2013
 
What?
mikey860 wrote:
I see now I have gotten a hold of a person with a mind of a child. Is lost and does not know about spiritual things. If it hid Its hid from those who are lost. I want cast my pearls at swine, only to those who want to know what truth is. This person anti-theist is lost has lost can be 100.00 says he is Gay. without a life.

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#57
Mar 4, 2013
 
Sir this is a Christian question, you need to move on to your site Atheist, Gay, lesbian and you can run each other down all day. This is not for you or your kind. Your lost this is the only life you will ever know. My I warn you, you are judging your self now. If you leave here in the shape your end you'll be in darkness till the judgment. Your action right is judging you. So if this means nothing to you just move on.

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Mar 4, 2013
 
"Sir this is a Christian question, you need to move on to your site" What part of "public forum" don't you understand?

"This is not for you or your kind." If you can't handle criticism, don't post on public forums. Keep your ignorance and bigotry to yourself.

"Your lost this is the only life you will ever know." That's the only sensible thing you've said, albeit accidentally. This is the only life, so make the most of it.

"If you leave here in the shape your end you'll be in darkness till the judgment" Try your fantasy threats on the young or dumb.
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Sir this is a Christian question, you need to move on to your site Atheist, Gay, lesbian and you can run each other down all day. This is not for you or your kind. Your lost this is the only life you will ever know. My I warn you, you are judging your self now. If you leave here in the shape your end you'll be in darkness till the judgment. Your action right is judging you. So if this means nothing to you just move on.
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#59
Mar 6, 2013
 
you know what I never understood about christians? Why is it that when you debate their theories with your facts they claim you are being offensive to their religion, but never once do they consider that attempting to belittle you and shove their shaky beliefs down your throat might be offensive to your beliefs??

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Mar 6, 2013
 
They do it because they have no evidence for their claims. For that reason, they cannot defend their religion in any rational debate.

They had many centuries to instill in society, by force, the idea that they're unfounded beliefs should be respected. It's time to undo that undeserved respect and expose their unfounded claims like we would on any other subject.
Siren wrote:
you know what I never understood about christians? Why is it that when you debate their theories with your facts they claim you are being offensive to their religion, but never once do they consider that attempting to belittle you and shove their shaky beliefs down your throat might be offensive to your beliefs??
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Mar 7, 2013
 
Anti-theist wrote:
They do it because they have no evidence for their claims. For that reason, they cannot defend their religion in any rational debate.
They had many centuries to instill in society, by force, the idea that they're unfounded beliefs should be respected. It's time to undo that undeserved respect and expose their unfounded claims like we would on any other subject.
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agreed. Religion is a main contributor of the opression and even regression of both civilization and the intelligence of humans. Without indoctrinated religion we could begin to realize true compassion and build a better life, and a better, healthier planet. It's only purpose was to mentally enslave the masses and keep them ignorant. It is time to be done with that tyranny and that close mindedness. Anti-theist, are you aware of The Venus Project? If not I recommend you check it out at thevenusproject.com - it advocates for a high technology, resource based system that works with the planet in a healthy way as opposed to our current state of low technology money based economy and killing of our earth. They also advocate the removal of religion to further promote our critical thinking, intelligence, and compassion to others. Its really an exquisitely beautiful model.

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