Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#22 Jun 6, 2012
Anti-theist wrote:
"You may continue denying Christ for the rest of your life" You haven't provided evidence that Jesus existed or was a "Christ."
"Christ takes care of His own." Imaginary friends really don't do anything.
"What do you have for your god?" Rational people don't need gods.
"Satan makes a very poor substitute for Christ." Where's your evidence that Satan is real?
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Are you looking for a Birth Certificate for Christ. News for you...Christ was born 2,000 years ago in a far-flung part of the Roman Empire. They also didn't have newspapers or magazines. What evidence do you want. Christ commented on those who wanted signs. He said that the only sign they would receive was His death and resurrection three days later. You say that you are rational. Do rational people deny God, the maker of the Universe? No. You want evidence that Satan is real? Look in the mirror. He is you. You can become God's child. I told you how. It is up to you now.

Since: Apr 10

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#23 Jun 6, 2012
In post #12, I was QUOTING and responding to what Mikey said, hence, why I used QUOTATION MARKS. You clearly do not even read the posts that you respond to, if you can read at all.
Don wrote:
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You should never put anything in writing that you don't want to claim as yours. Look in Post 21: ""I was in the hospital for a while died 3 time i got the hint" Adopting an imaginary friend because you got scared is not at all impressive. It is possible to face death with courage. Not everyone needs fantasy-land for comfort."
I see that this thread has been edited. It's too bad for you that I still have what you said in verbatim.
"Anti-theist wrote:
"For the fool has said in his heart there is no God" Matt. 5:22 "Whosoever shall say "thou fool" shall be in danger of hellfire."
"I was in the hospital for a while died 3 time i got the hint" Adopting an imaginary friend because you got scared is not at all impressive. It is possible to face death with courage. Not everyone needs fantasy-land for comfort."
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Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#24 Jun 6, 2012
Anti-theist wrote:
In post #12, I was QUOTING and responding to what Mikey said, hence, why I used QUOTATION MARKS. You clearly do not even read the posts that you respond to, if you can read at all.
<quoted text>
I know a poster in another forum. His style of debating, if you want to call it that, is to call people various names and rant and rave at them. He never addresses the content of the posts to which he responds. Can you respond in a different manner? He sees himself as some sort of great oratory person, yet he cannot express himself in that manner.

Since: Apr 10

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#25 Jun 6, 2012
"News for you...Christ was born 2,000 years ago in a far-flung part of the Roman Empire." There is no evidence that Jesus was born. If he existed, he was not divine. He was either crazy or a typical religious con-artist.

"Christ commented on those who wanted signs." There is no evidence that Jesus commented on anything. No one even wrote about his supposed life until decades after his supposed death. No one who wrote about Jesus actually met him. His legend was clearly invented.

"He said that the only sign they would receive was His death and resurrection three days later." How do you know that he said that? Where's the proof?

"Do rational people deny God, the maker of the Universe?" Rational people do not believe in supernatural beings, due to lack of evidence.
Don wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you looking for a Birth Certificate for Christ. News for you...Christ was born 2,000 years ago in a far-flung part of the Roman Empire. They also didn't have newspapers or magazines. What evidence do you want. Christ commented on those who wanted signs. He said that the only sign they would receive was His death and resurrection three days later. You say that you are rational. Do rational people deny God, the maker of the Universe? No. You want evidence that Satan is real? Look in the mirror. He is you. You can become God's child. I told you how. It is up to you now.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#26 Jun 6, 2012
That has nothing to do with the fact that you can't read. You could at least admit that you were wrong about my quote, but I don't expect honesty from a self-righteous ignoramus like you.
Don wrote:
<quoted text>
I know a poster in another forum. His style of debating, if you want to call it that, is to call people various names and rant and rave at them. He never addresses the content of the posts to which he responds. Can you respond in a different manner? He sees himself as some sort of great oratory person, yet he cannot express himself in that manner.
Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#27 Jun 6, 2012
So you think that He was such a con artist that millions of people have accepted Him as their savior and many have died as martyrs for the faith? Christís con job has lasted for 2,000 years? I think not.

"He said that the only sign they would receive was His death and resurrection three days later." How do you know that he said that? Where's the proof?Ē Here is the proof.
Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whaleís belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

ď"Do rational people deny God, the maker of the Universe?" Rational people do not believe in supernatural beings, due to lack of evidence.Ē

If you donít believe in God, you must believe that the Universe was created by some sort of crazy fluke, an accident of enormous proportion. You have the faith for that, but you donít have the faith to believe that Christ died for the sins of His people?

You say that if He existed, he was not divine. Are you saying that the divine doesnít exist? The Holy Bible, which you donít believe, tells a different story. If you donít believe, so be it. There are many millions of people around the world who think differently. Their faith is their evidence of their belief.
You believe that no one who wrote about Christ even knew Him? Three books of the gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, and John. Are you saying three of His apostles didnít know Him?
Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#28 Jun 6, 2012
Anti-theist wrote:
That has nothing to do with the fact that you can't read. You could at least admit that you were wrong about my quote, but I don't expect honesty from a self-righteous ignoramus like you.
<quoted text>
Oh I do admit it. But hint for you. Don't put quotes in the same paragraph with your remarks. You say that I am a self-righteous ignoramus. Go to a website named Liberty Post and look for posts from a poster named Yukon. You will see how much you and he are alike.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#29 Jun 6, 2012
"Don't put quotes in the same paragraph with your remarks." No, the quotation marks are sufficient.

"You say that I am a self-righteous ignoramus. Go to a website named Liberty Post and look for posts from a poster named Yukon." I could care less and that has nothing to do with this thread.
Don wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh I do admit it. But hint for you. Don't put quotes in the same paragraph with your remarks. You say that I am a self-righteous ignoramus. Go to a website named Liberty Post and look for posts from a poster named Yukon. You will see how much you and he are alike.
Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#30 Jun 6, 2012
Anti-theist wrote:
"Don't put quotes in the same paragraph with your remarks." No, the quotation marks are sufficient.
"You say that I am a self-righteous ignoramus. Go to a website named Liberty Post and look for posts from a poster named Yukon." I could care less and that has nothing to do with this thread.
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I just thought that you might want to know how others see you when you post. Anyone, you are right. It has nothing to do with this thread.

Do you understand what I have said about salvation, Heaven, and Hell?
Outstanding

Means, KY

#31 Jun 6, 2012
Regarding post #27. There is no direct evidence that Matthew and Mark were the authors, even Biblical scholars will grant that. Google the question, but try not to pick and choose the answer that fits you.

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#32 Jun 6, 2012
"So you think that He was such a con artist that millions of people have accepted Him as their savior and many have died as martyrs for the faith?" About a billion people believe Allah is the only god and Muhammed is his messenger. Does that prove that Islam is correct or that Allah is real?

"Here is the proof." The Bible is not proof that the Bible is true. That like saying that the supernatural events in the Iliad are true because they're in the Iliad. And the fact that you believe that the Jonah and Whale story actually happened shows that you are brainwashed beyond repair.

"If you donít believe in God, you must believe that the Universe was created by some sort of crazy fluke" I never said that the universe was created. I've never heard a scientist say that the universe is a "fluke" or "accident." The fact is that we don't know everything about the universe.

"Are you saying that the divine doesnít exist?" There is no evidence for it, so it can safely be ruled out.

"The Holy Bible, which you donít believe, tells a different story." The Holy Quran tells different stories too. Do you believe the Quran?

"Their faith is their evidence of their belief." You're right...the fact that many people believe nonsense for no good reason is evidence that people believe nonsense for no good reason.

"Three books of the gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, and John. Are you saying three of His apostles didnít know Him?" I'm saying that no one wrote about Jesus until decades after his supposed death. Furthermore, there no way to prove that anyone who wrote about him had ever met him.
Don wrote:
So you think that He was such a con artist that millions of people have accepted Him as their savior and many have died as martyrs for the faith? Christís con job has lasted for 2,000 years? I think not.
"He said that the only sign they would receive was His death and resurrection three days later." How do you know that he said that? Where's the proof?Ē Here is the proof.
Matthew 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whaleís belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
ď"Do rational people deny God, the maker of the Universe?" Rational people do not believe in supernatural beings, due to lack of evidence.Ē
If you donít believe in God, you must believe that the Universe was created by some sort of crazy fluke, an accident of enormous proportion. You have the faith for that, but you donít have the faith to believe that Christ died for the sins of His people?
You say that if He existed, he was not divine. Are you saying that the divine doesnít exist? The Holy Bible, which you donít believe, tells a different story. If you donít believe, so be it. There are many millions of people around the world who think differently. Their faith is their evidence of their belief.
You believe that no one who wrote about Christ even knew Him? Three books of the gospels were written by Matthew, Mark, and John. Are you saying three of His apostles didnít know Him?

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#33 Jun 6, 2012
I don't care how you perceive me. I'm correcting your unfounded claims.
Don wrote:
<quoted text>
I just thought that you might want to know how others see you when you post. Anyone, you are right. It has nothing to do with this thread.
Do you understand what I have said about salvation, Heaven, and Hell?
Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#34 Jun 6, 2012
Anti-theist wrote:
I don't care how you perceive me. I'm correcting your unfounded claims.
<quoted text>
I'm not the only one who thinks you are dealing with anger issues and a great deal of pride. Those are your issues to deal with, not me.

You didn't answer my question. Do you understand what I told you about salvation, Heaven, and Hell?

I really don't care if you don't have the proof that you want regarding the Scriptures and God. You don't have to answer this question. I don't care if you think any claims on the divinity of Christ are unfounded or that no evidence exists. Christians are supposed to tell people about these things. They are not responsible for making you believe.

The Scriptures do tell us that there are people who are the children of Satan. I've been trying to get you to face that, but ultimately, the responsibility is on your shoulders alone and so are the consequences.
Don

Sioux Falls, SD

#35 Jun 6, 2012
Outstanding wrote:
Regarding post #27. There is no direct evidence that Matthew and Mark were the authors, even Biblical scholars will grant that. Google the question, but try not to pick and choose the answer that fits you.
Since you assigned a task to me, what is your point? You don't think that Matthew and Mark wrote their gospel, or do you want me to explain something to you?
Outstanding

Means, KY

#36 Jun 6, 2012
You said they were written by Matthew and Mark. I stated there is no evidence to that. You stated it as a fact and it very likely they did not write them. Did you google and read some of what the Biblical scholars said? Explain to me how you know for sure, when there are many (much smarter than us and just as Christian as you) who state that they probably did not or it just can not be proved.
Revelations

United States

#37 Jun 6, 2012
Don wrote:
<quoted text>
At one point in our life, all of us were lost. Christians are told to share the gospel with everyone. If they refuse to heed the gospel message, their fate will be terrible indeed; in fact, it is so terrible that we cannot say that we should just ignore any of the lost. But, I will expand on something that I said above. If they refuse the gospel message their blood will be on their own heads, not ours.
I I agree brother, but ive debated with anti theist for over 3 months on and off, he is his own. Depart from him.
Revelations

United States

#38 Jun 6, 2012
Outstanding wrote:
You said they were written by Matthew and Mark. I stated there is no evidence to that. You stated it as a fact and it very likely they did not write them. Did you google and read some of what the Biblical scholars said? Explain to me how you know for sure, when there are many (much smarter than us and just as Christian as you) who state that they probably did not or it just can not be proved.
Too many biblical prophecies are way too coincidental to just be a ''story book'',daniel and isaiah predicted 2011's arab spring, it knew libya and syria by name would be overthrown during the end times, not to mention christ describes the sorrows like birthing pangs and there is no denying the earth is slipping into deeper turmoil, no matter how you put it the world is not getting ''fuzzy wuzzy lets all hold hands and sin freely!" its getting more perilous with technology, 2nd tim chapter 3, ecclesiastes 1:13, with great knowledge comes great sorrow.'' well we as a race sure have great knowledge and id call the nuclear bomb and reactors quite a big ''sorrow'' when the great quake hits ''possible description in the bible as a pole shift'' those nuclear bombs and reactors are going to cause famine and plague like youve never seen, not to mention oil pipelines bursting creating the metaphoric ''sea like blood of a dead man'' aka, thick, coagulated and unable to support life...pretty eerie similarities in the prophecies vs todays headlines, ufo sightings up...wonders in heaven in the last days, every other month a major quake plows in, and minor ones everyday, quakes up 400% since 1890, dont tell me the bible is fake...your so blind you cant see the signs we were warned about over and over. All we are waiting for is the anti christ's revelation, and the great quake and i think everything else will come very rapid. Get saved!! All god wants you to do is love him and keep his commandments, and love thy neighbor, and accept his son as your savior...why is this so terrible to people? Were commanded to love our spouses or god will ignore our prayers. Why is this bad? We have a duty as a human race to live according to our creator yaweh so none of whats happening in the world would happen, too late now isnt it, GET SAVED!
Outstanding

Means, KY

#39 Jun 6, 2012
Who said I was not saved? I may be blind, but I may see things a lot clearer than you. You are cherry picking the OT like many of the preachers, leaving out the stories about commands to kill kids, wipe out cities, rape and plunder (and this was done by the good guys). I do not use the OT as a source of getting saved
Revelations

United States

#40 Jun 6, 2012
christ commands to love our enemies, some OT ways were done away with some kept, we dont sacrifice anymore because we are now to be a living sacrifice. Killing unruly children was to prevent spread of corruption he is god, dont argue with how he does things or commands things to be done at different times, the birth of our species wasnt an easy time. Worldy governments do much worse to people than god.
Outstanding

Means, KY

#41 Jun 7, 2012
May I ask why I should not argue, is this your command? When were these ways done away with?

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