Justice for Josh Young or Trey Zwicker?

Justice for Josh Young or Trey Zwicker?

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FYI

Chicago, IL

#1 Dec 5, 2011
KY teens murder case turns into two separate petition drives; gets international attention
15-year-old Josh Young will be tried as an adult for Trey Zwicker's murder. 15-year-old Josh Young will be tried as an adult for Trey Zwicker's murder.
Trey Zwicker was found murdered in May of 2011. Trey Zwicker was found murdered in May of 2011.
LOUISVILLE, KY (WAVE)- The case against 15-year-old Joshua Young has now taken to the internet, with two very different petitions sparking an international interest.
Young is behind bars and will be charged as an adult for the May, 2011 murder of 14-year-old Trey Zwicker. Zwicker's body was found beaten and stabbed to death near Liberty High School by students working on a class project.
Young was Zwicker's step-brother, and questions have swirled about whether Young's father, Joshua Gouker, was involved in Trey Zwicker's murder.
Joshua Gouker's own mother told WAVE 3 News she believes Gouker is responsible for Trey's death -- not Josh Young, which is her grandson.
FYI

Chicago, IL

#2 Dec 5, 2011
"I still say 'little Josh' is not to blame. He did not do it. I believe his father did it with all his heart and soul and I now my son with all my soul," Ruby Jessie said.
She says she believes Gouker did it out of retaliation, to get back at his estranged wife.
"He and Amanda were having really bad problems. She aborted two of his kids in 2000 and one of their marriages and he felt like it was a child for a child," Jessie said.
The questions of whether Joshua Young played a part in Trey Zwicker's murder is one of the reasons why "Justice For Juveniles" is getting involved, picking up the case on it's website to try to urge the court to not try Young as an adult, where his punishment could include life behind bars.
The New Hampshire-based website features different cases, and director Melissa Higgins tells WAVE 3 why she picked up the case:
"One thing that stands out to me about his case is his father's possible involvement. His father, Josh Gouker, has an extensive criminal record and his mother has said that he admitted to her he committed the murder of his stepson, Trey Zwicker," Higgins explains.
"My concern is that the prosecution is charging Josh with a crime he may not have committed. I am also concerned with the fact he is being charged as an adult and could potentially face life in prison without parole. I have a petition asking the prosecution to investigate Josh Gouker further and also to drop their pursuit of the younger Josh's case in criminal court. As a juvenile he should be tried in juvenile court," she said.
Her petition had more than 800 signatures Monday afternoon from all over the country, as well as some coming from as far as Australia, Canada, and Yemen.
In response to this, another petition drive has been started, called "Justice for Trey Zwicker" which has been started by his aunt.
Her petition drive says, "I believe any child that is capable of commenting murder to another child or even an adult, especially a brutal beating to death knows exactly what they are doing. An Adult size crime deserves an adult sized punishment. People try to argue that a child should not be tried as an adult, but what if it was their child that was murdered by another child? Would they agree with it then? Chances are NO."
The "Justice for Trey Zwicker" had more than 300 supporters Monday afternoon.
"If you've done something, especially murder - brutal on top of that - whether your 15 or 35, that's an adult to me and an adult punishment is deserved," Tara Zwicker told WAVE 3 News.
Trey's aunt Tara has started her own petition, to leave things the way they are with Young tried as an adult.
"If he's proven innocent then it'll all be dropped but if he's proven guilty then he'll get the punishment he deserves but if the charges are dropped down to juvenile and he's proven guilty, then he could walk the street in no time," she explained.
It comes on the heels of another holiday without Trey.
"All the holidays are really hard. We're taking it one day at a time. We've passed most of the "firsts" - we've passed the first father's day, the first birthday, the first Thanksgiving," she said.
And as they prepare for another holiday, "This is how we're going to be spending our Christmas with Trey this year," Tara said, clutching an ornament with his picture inside.
While the petition drive plays out, Young is expected back in court in mid-to-late January.
More online:
Website for "Justice For Juveniles"
Facebook site for Justice For Juveniles / Joshua Young
Website for "Justice for Trey Zwicker"
Copyright 2011 WAVE 3 News. All rights reserved.

Level 3

Since: Jul 10

Louisville, KY

#3 Dec 5, 2011
Until they make a case against the dad, the evidence seems to point at the kid. If there is evidence try him as an adult. Im sorry it was an adult crime. Of course he will not get the death penalty, but he might go away for a very long time. Hard for me to find compassion when a kid is killed.
Scarecrow

Shepherdsville, KY

#4 Dec 5, 2011
FYI Chicago...... Who the F are you to be interfering in a Louisville Murder case ??? We got plenty of good cops crooked lawyers and drunken judges to sort this case out. If they don't have enough murders in Chicago to keep you busy, then try Detroit.

“Power To the People!”

Level 1

Since: Sep 09

Louisville, KY

#5 Dec 5, 2011
Scarecrow wrote:
FYI Chicago...... Who the F are you to be interfering in a Louisville Murder case ??? We got plenty of good cops crooked lawyers and drunken judges to sort this case out. If they don't have enough murders in Chicago to keep you busy, then try Detroit.
Just sad!
FYI

Chicago, IL

#6 Dec 6, 2011
Scarecrow wrote:
FYI Chicago...... Who the F are you to be interfering in a Louisville Murder case ??? We got plenty of good cops crooked lawyers and drunken judges to sort this case out. If they don't have enough murders in Chicago to keep you busy, then try Detroit.
Excuse the hell out of me!! I didn't change my ISP address before I posted!!!!!!!!!! I am in Louisville KY.
Scarecrow

Shepherdsville, KY

#7 Dec 6, 2011
Well go back to Chicago, we don't need your sorry azz fouling up our criminal cases. We got plenty of crooked lawyers and drunken judges to take care of business.
UrADumbAzz

Louisville, KY

#8 Dec 12, 2011
Pay no attention to scarecrow. He's just sad and lonely because he lives in the middle of a field and his only friends are birds that try to eat his head. Oh, and he's also full of shit.
Just saying

Oakdale, IL

#10 Mar 9, 2014
Not guilty for all the haters.
Derp-Free

West Liberty, KY

#11 Mar 9, 2014
The kid did it. Gouker is currently at LLCC in La Grange on other charges. He tried to take the rap for the kid, but it WAS the kid who swung the bat.
Just saying

Oakdale, IL

#13 Mar 10, 2014
Derp-Free wrote:
The kid did it. Gouker is currently at LLCC in La Grange on other charges. He tried to take the rap for the kid, but it WAS the kid who swung the bat.
Did you even watch the trial? There was no bat. No bat was found and forensics testified a bat was not used in the murder as the injuries did not match up with a bat being involved.

“Have a ”

Since: Jun 08

sunny day :)

#14 Mar 10, 2014
There was justice, as the killer is serving time for the rest of his life.
Derp-Free

West Liberty, KY

#16 Mar 10, 2014
Just saying wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you even watch the trial? There was no bat. No bat was found and forensics testified a bat was not used in the murder as the injuries did not match up with a bat being involved.
Didn't have to watch the trial. A friend of mine did time with Gouker at LLCC while it was all going on. The trial was a joke. The kid did it, and Gouker was trying to do what any father would do, and that was take the hit for his kid.

Who believes anything a prosecutor says? You really think they're after the truth? All they care about is a conviction and another notch on their gunbelt to put them closer to either a partnership, the CA's office, or the Bench.

Wake up.
Splooge Bob Fish Pants

Jersey City, NJ

#17 Mar 10, 2014
Derp-Free wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't have to watch the trial. A friend of mine did time with Gouker at LLCC while it was all going on. The trial was a joke. The kid did it, and Gouker was trying to do what any father would do, and that was take the hit for his kid.
Who believes anything a prosecutor says? You really think they're after the truth? All they care about is a conviction and another notch on their gunbelt to put them closer to either a partnership, the CA's office, or the Bench.
Wake up.
uhhh you're talking to the American masses here, they are asleep and will never wake up.....sad truth is, its by choice.
texmex

Louisville, KY

#18 Mar 11, 2014
Sandy06 wrote:
There was justice, as the killer is serving time for the rest of his life.
wat up ole greybox?

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