Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

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President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#307 Feb 26, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>and the constantly changing screen or shaky-camera action sequences...like people can't read maps or pay attention longer than the average TV advert anymore...
i call it the Sesame Street Syndrome.
Yeah... the Blair Witch ruined a great deal of cinema & TV.

I only ever saw the movie-clips for Blair, and concluded it was beyond stupid--never bothered to see the whole "movie".

... meh.

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Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#308 Feb 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah... the Blair Witch ruined a great deal of cinema & TV.
I only ever saw the movie-clips for Blair, and concluded it was beyond stupid--never bothered to see the whole "movie".
... meh.
I agree. I did not bother to watch that film either. I don't really like to watch Horror films because most of them are foolish and predictable. Most of them either make me laugh at their stupidity or be upset cause I wasted $13.The greatest horro film I have ever seen was The Shining. No other Horror film and few films in general can compare to that.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#309 Feb 26, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree. I did not bother to watch that film either. I don't really like to watch Horror films because most of them are foolish and predictable. Most of them either make me laugh at their stupidity or be upset cause I wasted $13.The greatest horro film I have ever seen was The Shining. No other Horror film and few films in general can compare to that.
No question, The Shining was quite good.

My favorite still remains the original Halloween, by John Carpenter.

His minimalist use of music, and the fact that the main character was both a female, and willing to fight back (in spite of being scared sh7tless) makes that film a game-changer, IMO.

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#310 Feb 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No question, The Shining was quite good.
My favorite still remains the original Halloween, by John Carpenter.
His minimalist use of music, and the fact that the main character was both a female, and willing to fight back (in spite of being scared sh7tless) makes that film a game-changer, IMO.
I like you a lot. A breath of fresh air on this forum. Intelligence, at last! lol. Emperor John is also an intelligent and enlightened poster.

Enjoy!

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#311 Feb 26, 2013
That was a great movie. The Blair witch was supposed to be real footage and that was a laugh. I thought the Blair witch was stupid because who would bother all those hours with the camera of they were in danger? Gives you a headache piss on it.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No question, The Shining was quite good.
My favorite still remains the original Halloween, by John Carpenter.
His minimalist use of music, and the fact that the main character was both a female, and willing to fight back (in spite of being scared sh7tless) makes that film a game-changer, IMO.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#312 Feb 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
That was a great movie. The Blair witch was supposed to be real footage and that was a laugh. I thought the Blair witch was stupid because who would bother all those hours with the camera of they were in danger? Gives you a headache piss on it.
<quoted text>
Agreed-- they are literally frightened for their lives, and the only thing they can think of, is to blubber into a ... camera?

WTF?

I never watched past the trailers-- and pretty quickly, even began to avoid even the trailers.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#313 Feb 26, 2013
That movie scaared the crap out of my best friend when we went to see it. That and the ring. Sorry when I watched the ring I was like, where's the scary part? What if the girl climbs out of the TV and the dude is blind or just not scared enough he dies. Then what? She asks them nicely if they could die anyways?
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed-- they are literally frightened for their lives, and the only thing they can think of, is to blubber into a ... camera?
WTF?
I never watched past the trailers-- and pretty quickly, even began to avoid even the trailers.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#314 Feb 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
AH the old christian temper tantrum argument that says, I have no proof for my claim but YOU prove it is wrong!
LMFAO!
<quoted text>
temper tantrum? you can't prove your claim. it's that simple. so your claim also is faith based.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#315 Feb 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
We've already established your Josephus' entries about your fictional "jesus" is 100% fraud.
Why do you persist in the lie?
Hmmm?
you really haven't proved anything. all you have done is state your faith in someone else's claim about josephus. if it was an altered copy then there should be a family of copies that are unaltered. are there any?
barry

Rainsville, AL

#316 Feb 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
It is presumed that ALL of you Genuine Christians™ will lie, cheat, steal, murder, commit mayhem and so on.
Unless you prove otherwise, with lots and lots of evidence.
Why?
Because your worldview is at it's most basic level, a flat lie.
And you KNOW this--- you even have a nice word for it: faith.
And you actually have the brass-ones to pretend that this lie(faith) is ...
... somehow a VIRTUE!
Wow.
So, any group of people that consider it a virtue to LIE, cannot be trusted.
Do you see, now?
have a happy life, it is all that you have. everyone who doesn't see things your way is a liar. that is so 4 year oldish.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#317 Feb 26, 2013
Yes temper tantrum. What claim of mine can't I prove?
barry wrote:
<quoted text>temper tantrum? you can't prove your claim. it's that simple. so your claim also is faith based.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#318 Feb 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
The default position, is that it is NOT TRUE, without any evidence.
It is not up to ME to prove your soul thingy is false.
It is up to YOU to prove it IS NOT false--the default position (that it's false).
See?
Or do I need to dumb it down some more?
that's funny when i say that you're wrong you want me to prove it but when you say that i'm wrong you assume no obligation to prove it. how convenient.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#319 Feb 26, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow.
You don't even read your OWN BOOK!
That's typical, by the way-- it goes hand-in-glove with your nearly constant lying, I guess.
Go use an on-line bible, to search for the bits about the rich man entering heaven, and then, search for the bits about treasures in heaven, and then, look for the bits about taxes and ownership.
Jesus was against ownership, against riches, against earthly possessions, and for paying taxes.
Since you obviously own a computer, you fail that command, and I bet you cheat on your taxes every year, so you fail that one.
But you are unlikely to be rich-- so that one you get at least.
But, no, I'm not going to do your homework FOR you. It's not my job, you see.
this was the question;
barry wrote:
<quoted text>ok, humor me. just where did Jesus tell his followers to sell everything.

you didn't answer the question did you. maybe you haven't read the book. or maybe you don't have an answer because what you said might be inaccurate.

i did notice that you now are trying to broaden the topic in the hopes that now there will be something to cover your broader claims.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#320 Feb 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yet he called all the other Jewish settlements by their Jewish names for some reason. Barry I am sorry but you are just are just pulling stuff right out of your christhole now. Oh and on later maps when Nazareth actually existed it shows the other city as well. Seriously at least make up feasible lies okay?
<quoted text>
did they have other older pagan names? or were they originally jewish names. or were they older pagan cities that the jews kept the name?

however perhaps this is the case similar to what i suggested;

There was an ancient settlement in the neighborhood of Nazareth called Japhia. It is
mentioned in the Bible (Jos 19:12), as well as in the Egyptian Amarna letters of XIV BCE.
Today, archaeologists know of Japhia only from the Roman ruins of the town 3km SW of
Nazareth. Japhia was destroyed in 67 CE, during the First Jewish Revolt. Curiously, there are no
Bronze-Iron Age remains of Japhia under the Roman ruins. So, the early town mentioned in the
Bible was somewhere nearby. There was indeed a considerable settlement in the Nazareth basin
during those eras, one beginning about 2000 BCE and continuing for about thirteen centuries
(from the Middle Bronze Age to the Middle Iron Age). Thus, by synoptically viewing the
evidence from Japhia together with that from the neighboring Nazareth basin, one arrives at the
very likely solution:“Japhia” was located in the Nazareth basin in the Bronze and Iron Ages, and
it moved in the course of centuries to the eventual Roman location three kilometers away. Such
village movement over time was not unusual, and occurred for a variety of reasons. In the case of
Japhia we have a good reason: Assyria conquered Israel in 732 BCE and destroyed all the major
towns in northern Palestine. It is likely that Japhia was also a casualty of the general destruction
at that time. Thus, the earliest town of Nazareth was not “Nazareth” at all, but Japhia.

http://oldsite.atheists.org/wiki/images/c/cf/...
barry

Rainsville, AL

#321 Feb 26, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
Constantine, the same emperor who was behind the murder of his nephew,because the latter was a threat to his power, his son Crispus, because his wife, convinced him that he tried to rape her, and his wife because he found out that she lied about his son.
According to the Christian teachings, this mass murder is in heaven because he accepted Christ while the Buddha, a prince who supposedly gave up wealth and power to dedicate himself to the poor, earns a place in hell.
according to Catholic teachings. just try to keep it accurate.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#322 Feb 26, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
<quoted text>
He could have learned about that if he had dared to watch the numerous History/ Discovery Channel episodes on the subject, back when those channels had interesting shows, shows that I watched as a kid.
"He" clicked on it and then showed that it actually did not support bob's claims at all. apparently bob never read it or he had a predetermined mind set that caused him to not understand what it said.
barry

Rainsville, AL

#323 Feb 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Yes temper tantrum. What claim of mine can't I prove?
<quoted text>
ok, it was bob's claim, so bob can't prove his claim and therefor you think i must be having a temper tantrum for even suggesting that he prove his claim.

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#324 Feb 26, 2013
No. Nazareth is a Jewish settlement that shows up on maps and documented records at exactly the same time the artifacts from Nazareth show up. The second century.

Stop pulling stuff right out of your christhole.
barry wrote:
<quoted text>did they have other older pagan names? or were they originally jewish names. or were they older pagan cities that the jews kept the name?
however perhaps this is the case similar to what i suggested;
There was an ancient settlement in the neighborhood of Nazareth called Japhia. It is
mentioned in the Bible (Jos 19:12), as well as in the Egyptian Amarna letters of XIV BCE.
Today, archaeologists know of Japhia only from the Roman ruins of the town 3km SW of
Nazareth. Japhia was destroyed in 67 CE, during the First Jewish Revolt. Curiously, there are no
Bronze-Iron Age remains of Japhia under the Roman ruins. So, the early town mentioned in the
Bible was somewhere nearby. There was indeed a considerable settlement in the Nazareth basin
during those eras, one beginning about 2000 BCE and continuing for about thirteen centuries
(from the Middle Bronze Age to the Middle Iron Age). Thus, by synoptically viewing the
evidence from Japhia together with that from the neighboring Nazareth basin, one arrives at the
very likely solution:“Japhia” was located in the Nazareth basin in the Bronze and Iron Ages, and
it moved in the course of centuries to the eventual Roman location three kilometers away. Such
village movement over time was not unusual, and occurred for a variety of reasons. In the case of
Japhia we have a good reason: Assyria conquered Israel in 732 BCE and destroyed all the major
towns in northern Palestine. It is likely that Japhia was also a casualty of the general destruction
at that time. Thus, the earliest town of Nazareth was not “Nazareth” at all, but Japhia.
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#325 Feb 26, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>you never said that he lied about it but only that he has earned the right to do so. i get it.
and you might want to get a better accuracy about accusing bg of talking to nixon about "satanic jews" he never used that phrase and was quoting a verse in the book of revelation that says that there are those who claim to be Jews who are liars, and that they belong to a "synagogue of Satan."
written of course by the apostle john who like Christ was a jew.
he was also honored by the American Jewish Committee in 1977 for promoting Protestant-Jewish relations over the past quarter century.
hardly fits your subtle accusation of him being anti-semetic.
Graham also said to Nixon - "They (the Jews)don't know how I really feel about what they're doing to this country".
Tell me Barry, what part of the Bible is that from?

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#326 Feb 26, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
That movie scaared the crap out of my best friend when we went to see it. That and the ring. Sorry when I watched the ring I was like, where's the scary part? What if the girl climbs out of the TV and the dude is blind or just not scared enough he dies. Then what? She asks them nicely if they could die anyways?
<quoted text>
The Ring is another one I missed seeing. From what I have seen of bits and pieces of it, I didn't miss anything either.

:)

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