Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

Feb 13, 2013 Full story: Q-Notes 1,638

President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#224 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>not the Bible that i read. it holds true to the Bible my grandparents read and that holds true to the Bible that their grandparents read and so on.
Sorry?

Are you lying yet AGAIN?

You just cannot help yourself, but to lie, can you?

Seriously, dude-- you are quite ill.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#225 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>nope, wrong again;
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/josephus.ht...
i didn't post it because of the topix character limit.
interesting how you never post sites for your claims. just some nebulous "scholars say".
Lying for Jewsus, non-scholarship site.

I was right: your "source" is just another Liar for Jewsus.

No WONDER you were so embarrassed!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#226 Feb 23, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You pretty much nailed it.
<quoted text>
Yep. I'd see that lie previously, from Creotardism websites, who claim the earth is 6,000 years old...

... idiots.

Seriously-- they are brain-damaged.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#227 Feb 23, 2013
TJohn wrote:
<quoted text>I`m not a christian old man. I`d take pleasure in smacking your false teeth clear out of your mouth. What I don`t like is cowardly bigots like you talking all your big boy words behind a keyboard. You claim to know so much but in reality you are lucky if you put your depends on correctly.
Riiiight... you are "not a christian". Riiiight.

You talk exactly like a Genuine Christian™ does-- you talk violence, hate and display a bigotry that is classic Genuine Christian™.

Since you are obviously a liar?

We can safely presume you are just another Genuine Christian™.

Thanks for playing!

Your seething hate has revealed you for what you are.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#228 Feb 23, 2013
TJohn wrote:
Funny how the crazy athiest come unto a thread talking about religion. Many threads talking about topics I could give a flying rats ass about but you certainly wouldn`t find me wasting my time on those threads.
Reminds me of the line " thou doest protest to much "
My guess is these jackholes like Bob and the others got mad in church because somebody didn`t shake their hand one day or they didn`t like the color of the new carpet that was just installed.
More display of bigotry, hate and violence from the Genuine Christian™.

Classic.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#229 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>funny my "busted link didn't show any anti virus problems on my computer and i then copied to you the pertinent info which happens to come from a legal document filed and accepted by the irs. you then just brushed it off.
btw where are your links? the one you posted didn't agree with you on when the nt was written and it didn't appear to agree with you as to your claim that the Bible didn't even come into existence until the fourth century.
Sorry, but I don't believe you for a second-- you are a self-admitted liar after all.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#230 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so we just have your interpretation of what i said as being a code or something that i admitted to lying?
let me ask you do you have a soul? or do you have a spirit?
All religious faith is a lie, silly boyo.

And no, there is no such thing as "soul" or "spirit".

That is just more lying on your part.

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Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#231 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
His "source" is obviously a Liar For Jewsus site--
Notice he carefully omitted where he plagiarized his shyt. Likely some Creotardism site that claims the earth is 6000 years old.
... meh.
think again, really? these people believe that the earth is millions of years old. they believe that God did not create the world in six days.
and it is not plagiarism when it is acknowledged that it is copied.
so once again ole bob missed it. the nail he hit was his thumb.
I only skimmed it, to try to determine if it was associated with an accredited university-- it wasn't.

Thus, it's garbage.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#232 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>really it could be that their parents were very hypocritical in their "Christianity" or perhaps their parents got caught up in some genuine charlatan radio or tv preacher or faith healer that bled them dry in soliciting donations/offerings.
if they were picking a fight over say joyce meyers i would just sit back and observe. bg has done Christianity a disservice in his ecumenical practices but he is an honest man who has openly managed the finances of his organization above board for all to see. it's those who don't want to honestly look at them that just lump him in with all the rest.
so yes, you could be right maybe some "Christian" snubbed them in church.
we actually did have a guy get mad and leave the church over the color of the new carpet. sad.
You are indeed a sad case.

You have to invent all sorts of nefarious "reasons" why a sane individual left your ugly and hateful religion.

You just cannot understand that, in the modern world, people have access to proof that your cult is just a tissue of lies.

And that right there? Is more than sufficient reason to leave Genuine Christianity™

Because of all the lies.

There doesn't need to be anything else-- the lies are ugly enough.

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Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#233 Feb 23, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>that could be a valid opinion from your perspective. however people shouldn't try to parlay that into "he must be lying about his finances and taking advantage of tax dollars to get rich".
Why not? He lives like a very, very wealthy man.

Exactly the opposite your Jesus commanded of his followers.

Or don't you actually >>read<< your own bible?

Remember where Jesus commanded people to sell >>everything<<?

LOL!

Graham is just another hypocrite-- along with all the rest.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#235 Feb 24, 2013
Well on it's opening page it says before studying it or reading further I always start with prayer to open your heart to the information. Sounds legit eh? Lmfao!

You'd think even a christhole would be ashamed to use such a website! Start with prayer? Oy vey!
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
I only skimmed it, to try to determine if it was associated with an accredited university-- it wasn't.
Thus, it's garbage.

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#236 Feb 24, 2013
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Like it or not, when Jesus called us His sheep, He was saying that without a shepherd, we are helpless.

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#238 Feb 24, 2013
Heather from LI wrote:
<quoted text>Love your name!
Me too! That's the reason why I chose it.
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#240 Feb 24, 2013
His legacy is toast. Once his son and him aligned themselves with the apostate faith, knowing full well it went against the Christian tenets of faith, his legacy was done. God does not change nor his words. They are the same yesterday, today and forever, period! It just goes to show you how mankind can manipulate religion to their own evil ends.

Also, it reminds me of the minister that prayed with President Bush before he made the decision to invade Afganistan. He was real lucky that the minister who was into rough, homsexual sex, didn't attack him when his back was turned, lol.

Such hypocrites!
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#241 Feb 24, 2013
bappie wrote:
His legacy is toast. Once his son and him aligned themselves with the apostate faith, knowing full well it went against the Christian tenets of faith, his legacy was done. God does not change nor his words. They are the same yesterday, today and forever, period! It just goes to show you how mankind can manipulate religion to their own evil ends.
Also, it reminds me of the minister that prayed with President Bush before he made the decision to invade Afganistan. He was real lucky that the minister who was into rough, homsexual sex, didn't attack him when his back was turned, lol.
Such hypocrites!
God made the rules. We mess it up. Then we make excuses. Then we change what we don't like. Whether rich or poor there is discipline involved. It sucks. But it is there and gives you a better life even if you are not happy. Government then gets involved. And government has social programs. And then politicians to stay in power know that the social programs they have enacted seem to not be enough. So they add more...and more... and more... eventually changing the nature of people, driving men crazy.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#242 Feb 24, 2013
Well God is just a work of fiction so he does and thinks whatever the writer wants him to. This would explain why there are thousands of Christian denominations all with their own spin.
bappie wrote:
His legacy is toast. Once his son and him aligned themselves with the apostate faith, knowing full well it went against the Christian tenets of faith, his legacy was done. God does not change nor his words. They are the same yesterday, today and forever, period! It just goes to show you how mankind can manipulate religion to their own evil ends.
Also, it reminds me of the minister that prayed with President Bush before he made the decision to invade Afganistan. He was real lucky that the minister who was into rough, homsexual sex, didn't attack him when his back was turned, lol.
Such hypocrites!
serfs up

Kissimmee, FL

#243 Feb 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well God is just a work of fiction so he does and thinks whatever the writer wants him to. This would explain why there are thousands of Christian denominations all with their own spin.
<quoted text>
Be honest or shill!

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#244 Feb 24, 2013
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> God made the rules. We mess it up. Then we make excuses. Then we change what we don't like. Whether rich or poor there is discipline involved. It sucks. But it is there and gives you a better life even if you are not happy. Government then gets involved. And government has social programs. And then politicians to stay in power know that the social programs they have enacted seem to not be enough. So they add more...and more... and more... eventually changing the nature of people, driving men crazy.
If churches or religions are going to try and infulence political elections, they should lose their tax exempt status. You and I both know that's exacty what the grahams tried to do. Yes, we mess up but this was an intentional and deliberate act on the part of their ministry to make it spiritually acceptable for their parishoners to vote for a man of a religion that up until this year, on their very own web site was considered an apostate faith and there's no way of getting around this crucial fact. Firstly, although they do it all the time, God's word is very clear about churches and christians involving themselves in worldly or political matters and there's no getting around that either. However to interject their approval of a religion they previously called apostate in order to lend support to a politcal candidate was a sin and yes, to those who are sincere Christians and know what the bible clearly states, this ruins Billy's Graham's legacy. He's no better than Judas who sold out Jesus for the 30 pieces of silver.

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#245 Feb 24, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well God is just a work of fiction so he does and thinks whatever the writer wants him to. This would explain why there are thousands of Christian denominations all with their own spin.
<quoted text>
For those who don't believe it's a work of fiction and obviously Billy Graham and his followers believe it's the literal word of God, he and his son sinned and sinned greatly. I am not on this thread to argue with you about whether the bible is a work of fiction or the words of God. The fact is that Grahams organization believes it is and they went against not only what the bible states but their very own dogma. Mind telling me how you're going to make this right??? Whether it's fiction or not, they certainly believe it is or pretend too. I am inclined to believe in their case, since they obviously have no fear of playing around with God's word or the bible, that they don't honestly believe and it's a scam and manipulation tool. However, that's just me.

:)

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Lexington, KY

#246 Feb 24, 2013
Anyway you could say that again in English?

Thanks
serfs up wrote:
<quoted text> Be honest or shill!

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