Should Billy Graham's legacy be rescued?

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President Barack Obama with Rev. Billy Graham at his house in Montreat, N.C., April 25, 2010.

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“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#1 Feb 15, 2013
Billy is an awhole like most pastors.

“you must not give faith”

Since: Jul 12

Nottingham, UK

#2 Feb 16, 2013
No you shouldn't try to save someones legacy, you should look at it in detail and let it shink sink or swim accordingly.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#3 Feb 16, 2013
I would like to see it shink
:-)
Luther

Nicholson, GA

#4 Feb 16, 2013
How thankful we should be for Billy Graham. The world would be a darker place if God had not raised him up. As Billy said in 1962, at a crusade: It's either back to the Bible or back to the jungle.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#5 Feb 16, 2013
Awwwwww so give the bigot a pass because he has let with presidents? Here's a better idea! How about stop being a bigot and people won't treat you as such? Nifty idea Billy!
Luther

Nicholson, GA

#6 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Awwwwww so give the bigot a pass because he has let with presidents? Here's a better idea! How about stop being a bigot and people won't treat you as such? Nifty idea Billy!
I suspect your problem is not so much with Billy but with His Lord -- the Lord Jesus -- and perhaps with any and all authority. You want to be captain of your own ship, the master of your own fate. The only problem is that one day you will have to stand before a holy and righteous God ... unto whom all hearts are open all desires known, to quote the Book of Common Prayer.

Why not start reading the Bible and praying that God will open your eyes to the truth.
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Nha Trang, Vietnam

#7 Feb 16, 2013
Luther wrote:
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I suspect your problem is not so much with Billy but with His Lord -- the Lord Jesus -- and perhaps with any and all authority. You want to be captain of your own ship, the master of your own fate. The only problem is that one day you will have to stand before a holy and righteous God ... unto whom all hearts are open all desires known, to quote the Book of Common Prayer.
Why not start reading the Bible and praying that God will open your eyes to the truth.
does the Pope or Billy need more anti-aging cream?!!;-000

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#8 Feb 16, 2013
Not so much.
Luther wrote:
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I suspect your problem is not so much with Billy but with His Lord -- the Lord Jesus -- and perhaps with any and all authority. You want to be captain of your own ship, the master of your own fate. The only problem is that one day you will have to stand before a holy and righteous God ... unto whom all hearts are open all desires known, to quote the Book of Common Prayer.
Why not start reading the Bible and praying that God will open your eyes to the truth.

“Reason's Greetings!”

Since: Feb 11

Pale Blue Dot

#9 Feb 16, 2013
Luther wrote:
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Why not start reading the Bible and praying that God will open your eyes to the truth.
"The Devil tricked me into reading the Bible. If I didn't know what was in the good book, then I wouldn't have spent so much of my time when I was a Christian reconciling a supposedly all benevolent deity with genocide, infanticide, and all the other relevant -ides (goaticide, cowicide, witchicide, etc). All that cognitive dissonance either gives you a faith-based lobotomy or makes you an atheist."

From:

Five Ways The Devil Is Tricking Atheists!

http://www.laughinginpurgatory.com/2012/01/fi...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#10 Feb 16, 2013
Luther wrote:
How thankful we should be for Billy Graham. The world would be a darker place if God had not raised him up. As Billy said in 1962, at a crusade: It's either back to the Bible or back to the jungle.
He was a horrid person, and about as selfish as it is possible to be, and still breathe.

Example after example where he was uncaring about the fate of people who came to worship him at his public viewings, while he drove in stretch limos and lived in mansions like the god he pretended to be.

THAT is his legacy: one of selfish power and greed.

As are most of the leaders of all True Believers™
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Nha Trang, Vietnam

#11 Feb 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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He was a horrid person, and about as selfish as it is possible to be, and still breathe.
Example after example where he was uncaring about the fate of people who came to worship him at his public viewings, while he drove in stretch limos and lived in mansions like the god he pretended to be.
THAT is his legacy: one of selfish power and greed.
As are most of the leaders of all True Believers™
U in Scienteeth! now on the Faith tooo!!!;-000

Since: Mar 11

Chicago, IL

#12 Feb 16, 2013
It would take effort to be more morally bankrupt as televangelists like Billy Graham. Honestly how believers can condemn a soft spoken person like Hitchens but turn a blind eye to idiots like Graham screaming and shrieking about people going to hell is beyond me.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
He was a horrid person, and about as selfish as it is possible to be, and still breathe.
Example after example where he was uncaring about the fate of people who came to worship him at his public viewings, while he drove in stretch limos and lived in mansions like the god he pretended to be.
THAT is his legacy: one of selfish power and greed.
As are most of the leaders of all True Believers™

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#13 Feb 16, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
He was a horrid person, and about as selfish as it is possible to be, and still breathe.
Example after example where he was uncaring about the fate of people who came to worship him at his public viewings, while he drove in stretch limos and lived in mansions like the god he pretended to be.
THAT is his legacy: one of selfish power and greed.
As are most of the leaders of all True Believers™
All the money used for mansions and limos could have been used for charity

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#14 Feb 16, 2013
Can't wait till that homophobic antisemitic Billy Graham and rotting in the ground as worm food. Not to long now Graham. You are 93.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#15 Feb 16, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
It would take effort to be more morally bankrupt as televangelists like Billy Graham. Honestly how believers can condemn a soft spoken person like Hitchens but turn a blind eye to idiots like Graham screaming and shrieking about people going to hell is beyond me.
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Agreed. He was as uncaring as he was greedy.

I remember reading about a rally of his, back in the 70's or so, where kids from all over the US came to see him in Texas.

It was winter-- and most of these kids were camping outside in the cold.

Did Graham offer to open his nice, warm auditorium to let them warm up?

Nope. His remarks indicated he didn't care one bit about their fate.

I presume many got sick from exposure, as the nights were unseasonably cold, even for Texas.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#16 Feb 16, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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All the money used for mansions and limos could have been used for charity
Could have-- but wasn't.

A classic example of how Genuine Christians™ behave the world over.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#17 Feb 16, 2013
Luther wrote:
How thankful we should be for Billy Graham. The world would be a darker place if God had not raised him up. As Billy said in 1962, at a crusade: It's either back to the Bible or back to the jungle.
Hmm, odd had any of you lot actually been to any jungle?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#18 Feb 17, 2013
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Can't wait till that homophobic antisemitic Billy Graham and rotting in the ground as worm food. Not to long now Graham. You are 93.
As obnoxious and misguided a person as he might be, it surely doesn't do an atheist any credit to be eager to see him 'rot in the ground'?

It's surely important to attack the view or position and not the person - if one wants to make a serious point? Still, perhaps Topix is used more useful for venting and personal gratification.

Since: Mar 11

Lexington, KY

#19 Feb 17, 2013
Well that would have meant a higher electric bill and he couldn't have that! Disgusting animal that is his legacy.
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Agreed. He was as uncaring as he was greedy.
I remember reading about a rally of his, back in the 70's or so, where kids from all over the US came to see him in Texas.
It was winter-- and most of these kids were camping outside in the cold.
Did Graham offer to open his nice, warm auditorium to let them warm up?
Nope. His remarks indicated he didn't care one bit about their fate.
I presume many got sick from exposure, as the nights were unseasonably cold, even for Texas.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#20 Feb 17, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
Well that would have meant a higher electric bill and he couldn't have that! Disgusting animal that is his legacy.
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More likely, he had not yet rented the place out-- and was unwilling to pay additional rent for the comfort of the sheep he was planning on stealing from, later.

He was as heartless as they come.

A real credit to Genuine Christiains™... for is not their hallmark one of selfishness?

Indeed it is: the Republican party, the party of all Genuine Christians™ everywhere, is hell-bent on stopping welfare, eliminating social security, stopping Obamacare, cutting all funding to education (public schools, etc), and so on.

Oh, and the ReThugs want to pass laws limiting women's rights, and passing hate-laws oppressing or limiting the rights of gays, too.

But they also wish to eliminate all regulations regarding guns.

In fact?

The ReThugs want >>more<< regulations and laws governing women's v--- than there are regulations governing guns. Or most prescription drugs for that matter...

Selfish? You betcha: the hallmark of all Republicans and Genuine Christians™ everywhere.

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