Jacksonville gay rights ordinance would discriminate against residents, Brunson tells City Council

May 29, 2012 Full story: Florida Baptist Witness 6

JACKSONVILLE -A hearing for an ordinance banning discrimination against individuals based on sexual orientation - and "gender identity or expression" -- drew over 350 to a Jacksonville City Council meeting May 22 and extended past midnight to hear nearly 100 of the bill's supporters and opponents.

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#1 May 29, 2012
The rights (not gay rights) ordinance covers sexual orientation which would also cover straight and bisexual people. Everyone has a gender identity and sexual orientation. A business owner, motel owner, or landlord when it comes to business practices cannot currently discriminate against someone because of their gender, religion, and race, etc. and cannot use their personal religious beliefs as a justification to discriminate against those categories so why should it be okay to discriminate based on sexual orientation and gender identity? People can do what they want on their property and on church grounds and discriminate however they see fit but when it comes to public places, places of business or employment no one should be able to legally discriminate against any group of people. Religious people want their choice of religion protected but feel they should be protected and others shouldn't. That is not right at all.

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It's like religion feels if they don't have a right to force their will and views on the people then they are being discriminated against. No one is telling them they cannot believe a certain way the ordinance would just say it's not okay to fire someone, deny them housing/rent, or service in a store or restaurant simply because of their sexual orientation (heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual) and gender identity. This is about fairness and equal rights, not same-sex marriage or anything else. The ordinance doesn't require one to like, agree, or be friends with someone. Of course there will be those that don't care what I've just said because they want the right to discriminate against gays and trans because they disagree with them.

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You cannot deny service, rent, a room, job, or fire to someone because they are Republican, Democrat, Independent, military, straight, white, black, Native American, Hispanic/Latino, mideastern, Indian, Jewish, Mormon, Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Jehovah Witness, Baptist, Catholic, Pentecostal, Pagan, Agnostic, Satanist, Buddhist, disabled, old, young, male, female, married, or single, so why should it be legal to discriminate against someone because they are gay, lesbian, bisexual, and/or transgender? I think intersex would already be covered under gender and gender should also extend to include LGBT as well.

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#5 May 29, 2012
I would recommend this thread as well:

Mayor Alvin Brown's position on human rights ordinance could be tricky

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/jacksonville-...
equalityboy81

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#7 May 29, 2012
StraightAsARainbow wrote:
I almost agree with what you post, but when it comes to employment, I can't agree. If the job is being offered by a non-profit religious organization (a church, a religious school, hospital, etc) whose core values are incompatible with homosexuality, they should not be forced to hire an openly gay applicant, as doing so would undercut their own values.
When it comes to PUBLIC employment, that's a whole 'nother thing.
I think that religious non-profit organizations are already protected in that aspect in state, local, and federal laws and the U.S. Constitution.

If someone works for somewhere like Winn-Dixie they shouldn't be able to be legally terminated, not hired, denied a promotion, or raise, or discriminated against in the workplace simply because they are LGBT.

What would you think if a religious non-profit organization was against hiring someone of another race or religion, disability, or treated genders differently or gave promotions and raises to men and not women? Do you think they should be able to legally do so? I'm not necessarily saying they shouldn't be able to. I'm more asking if they should be held to current anti-discrimination laws or just be able to discriminate based on sexual orientation and gender identity?

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