Federal judge's ruling guts Proposition 8, the voter-approved ban o...

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Wednesday's ruling shooting down a ban on same-sex marriages in California was welcomed, and somewhat expected, by many who were watching from the sidelines in Santa Cruz.
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It's exciting to have a federal judge basically declare that our relationships are due the same legal respect," Brown said.

Actually, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker declared that is does not matter what the voters vote for.

It is disturbing that the trial court, in order to strike down Prop 8, has literally accused the majority of California voters of having ill and discriminatory intent when casting their votes for Prop 8.

Way to go Judge, show our youth how important it is to get out there and vote!!!!!!!!!!
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a judges job is to see if legislation -- which voter approved propositions are -- pass constitutional muster, or are otherwise illegal according to the prevailing laws of the land.

Prop. 8 is discriminatory in both its impact and intent. he is not accusing. he is merely stating the obvious.
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yep wrote:
It is disturbing that the trial court, in order to strike down Prop 8, has literally accused the majority of California voters of having ill and discriminatory intent when casting their votes for Prop 8.
We don't get to vote for ignorance. Many people in the south voted to keep segregation legal.
That did not make it right.
The people who voted for Prop 8 literally did vote for something that was was discriminatory.
Please explain to me how they didn't.
If the constitution guarantees everyone life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, how is this wrong?
Oh. And remember.
There's also the bit about separation of church and state.
Go.
Dan Welch

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With out hate, homosexuality is wrong, it has always been wrong and it will always be wrong. Laws do not change right and wrong.
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Of course, we know the Mormon church provided massive funding and mendacious advertising to push through Prop 8 originally. The general public was fooled into passing what was a basic violation of civil rights.
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Why can't I have two wives? I need this in order to pursue happiness and feel free. Who would be the victim of my crime?
Viva la moralidad du jour!
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So much for the 7 MILLION people who voted for the ban. The losers didn't like the legal outcome, so they sued.

What's the point of voting anymore?
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No wonder Al Qaeda hates us..look at what we've become. Just give em the nukes and get it over with, we deserve it.
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Dan Welch wrote:
With out hate, homosexuality is wrong, it has always been wrong and it will always be wrong. Laws do not change right and wrong.
Please explain. Using logic.
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The "majority" you people keep referring to was a slim 4.7 percent margin. Hardly a landslide.

But on the spirit of your post, what if a "majority" of people voted that black people could no longer vote, or that women can't own property? Would that "majority" vote make those things right? Of course not.
yep wrote:
It's exciting to have a federal judge basically declare that our relationships are due the same legal respect," Brown said.
Actually, Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker declared that is does not matter what the voters vote for.
It is disturbing that the trial court, in order to strike down Prop 8, has literally accused the majority of California voters of having ill and discriminatory intent when casting their votes for Prop 8.
Way to go Judge, show our youth how important it is to get out there and vote!!!!!!!!!!
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Seriously. It doesn't matter if voters approved it, if it is unconstitutional.

And again, the proposition only narrowly passed.
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aptos wrote:
So much for the 7 MILLION people who voted for the ban. The losers didn't like the legal outcome, so they sued.
What's the point of voting anymore?
Next time you vote, try keeping the constitution in mind.
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anything that pisses off al qaeda i am all for it.
i know i have a conservative rep on this board so it will come as a surprise that i did not support prop 8. who cares who is lovin who.
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nutjob christians , nutjob treehuggers , nutjob muslims aint no difference just a bunch a nutjobs
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anneshirley wrote:
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We don't get to vote for ignorance. Many people in the south voted to keep segregation legal.
That did not make it right.
The people who voted for Prop 8 literally did vote for something that was was discriminatory.
Please explain to me how they didn't.
If the constitution guarantees everyone life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, how is this wrong?
Oh. And remember.
There's also the bit about separation of church and state.
Go.
Then why bother allowing the people to vote, when the majority of the people vote for something that YOU call discriminatory?? Who are you to say the majority voted for ignorance. Why don't the people just give it to a judge to decide. Oh wait....wouldn't that be unconstitutional??I am not anti gay or lesbian. People should be able to make that choice 100%. I just believe that if the majority of people vote for or against something it should stand for something. Otherwise, why bother. your turn
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The next step is to outlaw the state's recognition and licensing of marriage altogether.

What's the point of it anyway?

If the liberal degenerates will destroy every wholesome institution in America, we might as well keep its sanctity exclusively in the private sphere, where it belongs.
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The new administration of the federal government seems to want to take all of the states rights away.
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i'm neutral on this & regardless of what's right or wrong .... but how can a single judge over rule a voter approved initiative ?

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Liberty and justice for ALL! Should be practiced by our laws regardless of what bigoted church goers or even a transient majority in any given state thinks.
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That comparison is ridiculous. I'm just saying that this is sending a message to the USA that Ca. does not believe in the power of the vote. That Ca will decide if the voters voted correctly or not.
Give me a break wrote:
The "majority" you people keep referring to was a slim 4.7 percent margin. Hardly a landslide.
But on the spirit of your post, what if a "majority" of people voted that black people could no longer vote, or that women can't own property? Would that "majority" vote make those things right? Of course not.

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