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GOP leaders: Skirting abortion issue not an answer

There are 102 comments on the Star Tribune story from Mar 13, 2014, titled GOP leaders: Skirting abortion issue not an answer. In it, Star Tribune reports that:

Shying away from social issues is not a winning strategy for Republicans, whose rhetoric on those subjects has at times alienated voters and cost the GOP elections, party leaders are telling anti-abortion activists.

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“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#21 Mar 16, 2014
guest wrote:
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I'm opposed to murder. If disallowing murder is costing freedom in your eyes, so be it. That's the price of living in a civilized society.
You're doing nothing but trying to divert attention from the fact that abortion is the most barbaric manner of slaughtering the most helpless and innocent of all human beings. It's mental sickness at its highest form. What does that say about you who support it?
You are opposed to people having healthcare, somehow that just doesn't add up with your now pretend concern for the fetus. Admit it "guest" you are against women having freedom and bodily autonomy. You "expect" you don't "respect"

Abortion is a medical procedure for those carrying an unwanted medical condition.

Now....share with us how many pregnancies you have carried.

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#22 Mar 16, 2014
kaylayossi wrote:
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Really? Prove where I've run crying from any proabort on this forum. Go on, prove it, liar. You have no one, and hate men. I will always believe that, you're too nasty and vile for anyone to want to actually be near you, oh banned one lol! Even topix hates you!
That is all you do is cry and report, everyone knows that. It is consistent with your busybody crybaby life.

If you are comfortable believing I have no one, no family and hate men knock yourself out. I am content in my belief that you are one lonely self hating woman who would do anything to attract a man. I see you are wasting no time cozying up to "guest" like a prostitute sniffing out her next john. You are so predictable, and such a sad little proabort "under certain circumstances".

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#23 Mar 16, 2014
Morgana9Rules wrote:
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That is all you do is cry and report, everyone knows that. It is consistent with your busybody crybaby life.
If you are comfortable believing I have no one, no family and hate men knock yourself out. I am content in my belief that you are one lonely self hating woman who would do anything to attract a man. I see you are wasting no time cozying up to "guest" like a prostitute sniffing out her next john. You are so predictable, and such a sad little proabort "under certain circumstances".
You have such a short memory dear, you conveniently forget I'm a happily married woman, with wonderful children. I see you are UNABLE to prove that I run crying from any proabort. Just as I thought, you're lying as usual. You are lying again when you say I report...I only report those who clearly are soliciting abortion on here. What if some young girl gets in touch with those types, and dies due to some "pills" they are selling? I see you don't give two sh*ts about women endangering themselves! or you'd also report the solicitors. The rest of you proaborts aren't bothering me because nothing you say bothers me...carry on with your lying.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#24 Mar 16, 2014
guest wrote:
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Some people may ignorantly support abortion, not realizing what it really is..
Boy, I would guess that most prochoicers know more about a womans body and abortion than those repubes who talk about aspirins between the knees, legitimate rape and god/rape

The informed know and believe this difficult choice should be made by the woman, her family and her doctor.

We will leave the histrionics to folks like you and others will make their decisions -carefully.

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#25 Mar 16, 2014
kaylayossi wrote:
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You have such a short memory dear, you conveniently forget I'm a happily married woman, with wonderful children. I see you are UNABLE to prove that I run crying from any proabort. Just as I thought, you're lying as usual. You are lying again when you say I report...I only report those who clearly are soliciting abortion on here. What if some young girl gets in touch with those types, and dies due to some "pills" they are selling? I see you don't give two sh*ts about women endangering themselves! or you'd also report the solicitors. The rest of you proaborts aren't bothering me because nothing you say bothers me...carry on with your lying.
You have such a short memory busybody dearie, I never believe your lies. In your imagination you are happily married with wonderful make believe children. You are a sad lonely cast a side annoyance to all who have encountered you....that is the truth!

You disappear and run when real debate starts, you answer nothing and have nothing to offer as you are as dumb as a doorknob. You are also a proabort under the circumstances in which you approve which you also run crying from when confronted.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#26 Mar 16, 2014
Morgana9Rules wrote:
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You have such a short memory busybody dearie, I never believe your lies. In your imagination you are happily married with wonderful make believe children. You are a sad lonely cast a side annoyance to all who have encountered you....that is the truth!
You disappear and run when real debate starts, you answer nothing and have nothing to offer as you are as dumb as a doorknob. You are also a proabort under the circumstances in which you approve which you also run crying from when confronted.
Lol! You have a rich fantasy world! Do you know how many people here think you're a raving loon? What you cal disappearing, is called having a LIFE. You wouldn't know anything about that hon, you spend your days and nights here while I work so you can milk the welfare system...end of story. Next!
guest

Ridgedale, MO

#27 Mar 16, 2014
Morgana9Rules wrote:
You are opposed to people having healthcare
You started this thread about abortion. I responded by slapping you in the face with cold, hard facts that you don't want to deal with. You're running away from the issue, tossing out more diversions.
Admit it "guest" you are against women having freedom and bodily autonomy.
Not at all. YOU are the one who supports violating the freedom and bodily autonomy of the helpless little female babies whose limbs are ripped from their torsos and their skulls crushed. What about their freedom and bodily autonomy Morgana?

The more you spew, the more evidence you give to prove that you are a psychopath.
Abortion is a medical procedure for those carrying an unwanted medical condition.
That's like saying dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima was a simple message sent to an annoying neighbor.

Face the facts Morgana. Abortion is the intentional taking of innocent human life. The very definition of murder.

What's worse is abortion is the most dastardly type of barbaric torture inflicted upon the most helpless, innocent members of the human race.

And you support it. Pathetic.
guest

Ridgedale, MO

#28 Mar 16, 2014
Responsibility wrote:
Boy, I would guess that most prochoicers know more about a womans body and abortion than those repubes
You "guess", which is actually quite typical of you pro abortion people. You rely on unfounded speculation because you don't want to deal with the hard facts relating to the holocaust of abortion.
The informed know and believe this difficult choice should be made by the woman, her family and her doctor.
The informed know that abortion is radical barbarism, and that such extreme violent murder should not be condoned in a civilized society.
We will leave the histrionics to folks like you
Nice try, but you fail. No histrionics here, just cold hard facts. What you mean is that you tuck tail and run from those facts because they obliterate your weak position. Again, so typical of pro abortion people. Run from the facts.

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#29 Mar 17, 2014
guest wrote:
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You started this thread about abortion. I responded by slapping you in the face with cold, hard facts that you don't want to deal with. You're running away from the issue, tossing out more diversions.
Thats right I started this thread, how observant of you.

You entered the thread "GOP pushes social issues at conservative showcase" and proceeded to rant about Marxism and healthcare where you showed your true colors and I pointed them out. Here you would have us believe that you are so concerned about the fetus while disapproving of healthcare a basic human need to promote life, and yet NOW you are "prolife" when the heavy lifting is ENTIRELY up to the female. How do you feel about healthcare for pregnant women/girls big boy?

I am not running away from anything, and you have not slapped me with anything except the right wing koolaid which is full of contradictions and blustery BS.
guest wrote:
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Not at all. YOU are the one who supports violating the freedom and bodily autonomy of the helpless little female babies whose limbs are ripped from their torsos and their skulls crushed. What about their freedom and bodily autonomy Morgana?
A fetus has no bodily autonomy as a fetus is entirely reliant on the body of the mother. In this country we do not force one to be a life support system for another against their will unless of course you can provide an example and correct me?

You right wing men are such a hoot. You are concerned for the "female" fetus but not the female herself. If you were at all concerned about females you would ask yourself why you would force by law a woman/girl to carry an unwanted pregnancy/medical condition with no benefit to herself. What you right wing men are entirely concerned about is abortion of male fetuses. That gets your gonads in a tight bunch as you believe woman/girls OWE YOU.
guest wrote:
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What you mean is that you tuck tail and run from those facts because they obliterate your weak position. Again, so typical of pro abortion people. Run from the facts.
Here is a cold hard fact. EVERY argument I have witnessed YOU make is based entirely on YOU, your welfare, your well being, your agenda. Just as this argument. YOU feel women/girls should produce against their best interests....but you would never feel the same way about yourself. You simply wish to control women/girls.

Now, tell us about your religion. I will wait.
guest

Ridgedale, MO

#30 Mar 17, 2014
Morgana9Rules wrote:
Thats right I started this thread, how observant of you.
You started this thread ABOUT ABORTION, then diverted to other issues in response to the facts I posted that obliterated your untenable position. That was the point in my earlier post. Apparently you arenít very observant.
You entered the thread "GOP pushes social issues at conservative showcase"Ö
Talking about other threads on other topics is just more diversion Morgana. Thatís so typical of you pro abortion people. Anything to avoid the facts.

I am not running away from anything
Yes you are Morgana. You are running away from what abortion truly is. You are running away from the human rights the unborn child has. You are running away from these pictures that cut through all of your b.s. and straight to what abortion actually is:
http://www.100abortionphotos.com/Aborted_Baby...

You are running from yourself Morgana because deep down you know that a mother murdering her own baby is the most tragic thing imaginable.

You are running from the fact that countless women suffer untold guilt for the rest of their lives when they realize they have murdered their own little babies.
A fetus has no bodily autonomy
You must tell yourself that Morgana, even though it isnít true, because the alternative is to admit the truth. If I whack a pregnant woman in the abdomen with a baseball bat and cause the death of her unborn child, no court in the land would claim that baby didnít have bodily autonomy. Iíd be charged with murder.

Your claim of a womanís ďbodily autonomyĒ is errant anyway. Itís not the womanís body that is being ripped limb from limb. Itís not the womanís body whose head is crushed. Itís not the womanís body that is being put to death. More facts that youíll run away from. You pro abortion people always do.
You right wing men are such a hoot. You are concerned for the "female" fetus but not the female herself.
Itís not just right wing folks who stand against slaughtering unborn babies Morgana, itís people from all across the political spectrum, social class, and religious views. There are only two groups who support abortion: those who are ignorant of the fact that it is murder, and psychopaths like you who have no feelings of guilt or compassion.
If you were at all concerned about females you would ask yourself why you would force by law a woman/girl to carry an unwanted pregnancy/medical condition with no benefit to herself.
ďUnwanted medical conditionĒ. Thatís just another pro abortion lie Morgana. Letís call it what it truly is. An unborn human being. A member of the human race. Sure, some mothers may not want that human being, but that gives no license to commit murder.

Your focus is only on the mother. You care nothing of the unborn child even though if aborted it will suffer the most barbaric torture imaginable.

Let me ask you this Morgana, would you support a mother, who sees no benefit for herself from keeping her 3 month old baby, ripping its tiny arms and legs off and crushing its tiny skull? To be logically consistent, you must also support infanticide. But then, pro abortion people suffer the most from cognitive dissonance.
Here is a cold hard fact. EVERY argument I have witnessed YOU make is based entirely on YOU, your welfare, your well being, your agenda.
Epic fail. No argument Iíve made has anything to do with me Morgana. Itís all about opposing the slaughter of innocent human beings. Itís all in THEIR interests.

Your statement is yet another example of you running away from the facts. You canít bring forth an intelligent response to my position because there is none. Either you oppose the unmitigated, barbaric slaughter of innocent little babies, or youíre a psychopath. We know which camp youíre in

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#31 Apr 6, 2014
guest wrote:
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You started this thread ABOUT ABORTION, then diverted to other issues in response to the facts I posted that obliterated your untenable position. That was the point in my earlier post. Apparently you arenít very observant.
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Talking about other threads on other topics is just more diversion Morgana. Thatís so typical of you pro abortion people. Anything to avoid the facts.
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Yes you are Morgana. You are running away from what abortion truly is. You are running away from the human rights the unborn child has. You are running away from these pictures that cut through all of your b.s. and straight to what abortion actually is:
http://www.100abortionphotos.com/Aborted_Baby...
You are running from yourself Morgana because deep down you know that a mother murdering her own baby is the most tragic thing imaginable.
You are running from the fact that countless women suffer untold guilt for the rest of their lives when they realize they have murdered their own little babies.
<quoted text>
You must tell yourself that Morgana, even though it isnít true, because the alternative is to admit the truth. If I whack a pregnant woman in the abdomen with a baseball bat and cause the death of her unborn child, no court in the land would claim that baby didnít have bodily autonomy. Iíd be charged with murder.
Your claim of a womanís ďbodily autonomyĒ is errant anyway. Itís not the womanís body that is being ripped limb from limb. Itís not the womanís body whose head is crushed. Itís not the womanís body that is being put to death. More facts that youíll run away from. You pro abortion people always do.
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Itís not just right wing folks who stand against slaughtering unborn babies Morgana, itís people from all across the political spectrum, social class, and religious views. There are only two groups who support abortion: those who are ignorant of the fact that it is murder, and psychopaths like you who have no feelings of guilt or compassion.
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ďUnwanted medical conditionĒ. Thatís just another pro abortion lie Morgana. Letís call it what it truly is. An unborn human being. A member of the human race. Sure, some mothers may not want that human being, but that gives no license to commit murder.
Your focus is only on the mother. You care nothing of the unborn child even though if aborted it will suffer the most barbaric torture imaginable.
Let me ask you this Morgana, would you support a mother, who sees no benefit for herself from keeping her 3 month old baby, ripping its tiny arms and legs off and crushing its tiny skull? To be logically consistent, you must also support infanticide. But then, pro abortion people suffer the most from cognitive dissonance.
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Epic fail. No argument Iíve made has anything to do with me Morgana. Itís all about opposing the slaughter of innocent human beings. Itís all in THEIR interests.
Your statement is yet another example of you running away from the facts. You canít bring forth an intelligent response to my position because there is none. Either you oppose the unmitigated, barbaric slaughter of innocent little babies, or youíre a psychopath. We know which camp youíre in
Thanks for the heartfelt and truthful post. As you see, she ran away from this thread...she's wrong and she knows it!

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#32 Apr 6, 2014
kaylayossi wrote:
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Thanks for the heartfelt and truthful post. As you see, she ran away from this thread...she's wrong and she knows it!
Oh KayLayLousy...I ran from nothing I already defeated the jackass. When you resort to substituting born babies who have rights zygotes.embryos in the first trimester you have lost the argument. Further he cares nothing about the mother while HE contends pregnancy is NOT a medical condition which it IS.

Now he will more than likely disagree with your proabortion leanings under the circumstances in which YOU approve. You are such a proabort hypocrite KayLaysLousy!!

Since: Mar 14

Ridgedale, MO

#33 Apr 7, 2014
Morgana, you had your ass handed to you as usual. You are the one who must deny facts and reality to defend your position. You refuse to accept the biological scientific fact that an unborn baby at any stage is a living human being.

You also deny the fact that the intentional taking of innocent human life is the very definition of murder.

But if you have to tell yourself that you've defeated someone in an abortion debate in order to assuage your own guilt. so be it. But that doesn't make it fact.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#34 Apr 7, 2014
BaracklypseNow wrote:
Morgana, you had your ass handed to you as usual. You are the one who must deny facts and reality to defend your position. You refuse to accept the biological scientific fact that an unborn baby at any stage is a living human being.
You also deny the fact that the intentional taking of innocent human life is the very definition of murder.
But if you have to tell yourself that you've defeated someone in an abortion debate in order to assuage your own guilt. so be it. But that doesn't make it fact.
Yes she did get her big fat arse handed to her, but she will fight on, changing the subject, and attacking others. It's laughable. You're exactly right, she has a very guilty conscience. Good post!
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#35 Apr 7, 2014
State Rep. Doug Cox was the only Republican to speak out against a sweeping "personhood" bill currently in the Oklahoma legislature. "We keep passing stuff like this, they'll be done in back alleys with coat hangers, people," said Cox, an emergency room physician, at the Oklahoma House of Representative's Public Health Committee hearing on the bill in February.

The first time a repube has made any sense on this issue.

Well done Mr. Cox.
Responsibility

Petaluma, CA

#36 Apr 7, 2014
guest wrote:
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Yes, boy, abortions will continue despite repubes war on women and going against women making difficult choice she may need to make. A repube who did not talk about aspirins between the knees but this repube named cox called it right -

"We keep passing stuff like this, they'll be done in back alleys with coat hangers, people," said Cox, an emergency room physician, at the Oklahoma House of Representative's Public Health Committee hearing on the bill in February.
Dickweed

Ames, IA

#37 Apr 7, 2014
Judging by the non-sense posted here, it appears abortion is an under used process.
Only a person can be murdered. There are no people living inside the womb of a woman. Only potential people. So murder it is not.
And our ever expanding government was instituted to govern "people born"
If you ain't been born, you ain't the government's problem.
But whatever.

Since: Mar 14

Ridgedale, MO

#38 Apr 7, 2014
Dickweed wrote:
There are no people living inside the womb of a woman.
Are you claiming that an unborn baby is not a human being? If so, your mentality certainly matches your user name.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#39 Apr 7, 2014
Dickweed wrote:
Judging by the non-sense posted here, it appears abortion is an under used process.
Only a person can be murdered. There are no people living inside the womb of a woman. Only potential people. So murder it is not.
And our ever expanding government was instituted to govern "people born"
If you ain't been born, you ain't the government's problem.
But whatever.
Please explain what a "potential person" is. Thanks.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#40 Apr 7, 2014
BaracklypseNow wrote:
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Are you claiming that an unborn baby is not a human being? If so, your mentality certainly matches your user name.
Yes, I believe that's what Mr. weed is asserting. I can't wait for his answer to my question...

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