What the heck are ya talking about laddie?<quoted text>
How ridiculous. That's like claiming that since black people were held as slaves during the first nearly 300 years of European occupation of North America, that clearly black people were not meant to be free. If they had simply NOT been held as slaves, it would have been proof positive that they weren't supposed to be held as slaves. You're using circular reasoning, which is illogical and WRONG.
Actually the word "gay" as a sexual reference used to refer to hedonistic heterosexual behavior. A 'gay man' was a womanizer, a 'gay woman' a prostitute. ya can't make this stuff up.Gay people and gay couples have been around since the dawn of time. The only reason we haven't been more visible is the result of the tyranny and fear of the majority forcing gay folks to remain hidden. For you to claim that the fact that they weren't more visible throughout history means anything other than that they were forced to remain hidden is foolish.
People with same sex attraction have always been around, not denying that. However the use of "gay" to denote a sexual politcal identity, is relatively new. Nor is same sex sexual behavior new. Its been tolerated, and/or allowed by various societies in various times and places. That doesn't mean it was equated with marriage, or viewed as marriage. We both know that. The idea of a same sex marraige, on par with opposite sex marriage, is a relatively recent idea. Really eJohnny, if SSM had deep sustained historical roots would this debate be necessary? No, because more than likely, it already be part of our culture.