Against the a Coercive Elimination of...

Against the a Coercive Elimination of Dissent'

There are 375 comments on the National Review Online story from Friday Nov 16, titled Against the a Coercive Elimination of Dissent'. In it, National Review Online reports that:

Another wedding-cake case, this time in Oregon, where the state has punished two bakers for their refusal to lend their services to a same-sex wedding. mericans are grappling with how to integrate the political popularity of same-sex marriage with increasingly unpopular religious expression.

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Since: Jul 10

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#1 Friday Nov 16
if your not going to do the job that you get paid for . then find another job. That goes for any job.We are to show love for our neighbor even if you consider him a enemy, not being a part of this world ,is not doing the things that God abhors. baking a cake, is not one of them . Not baking a cake is no different then those that were washing their hands up to their elbows. BUT I expect that judging others which is something that is his job alone. is also something he abhors. Wake up people Fanatics have no part in the great scheme of things.

Since: May 12

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#2 Friday Nov 16
Maravilla wrote:
if your not going to do the job that you get paid for . then find another job. That goes for any job.We are to show love for our neighbor even if you consider him a enemy, not being a part of this world ,is not doing the things that God abhors. baking a cake, is not one of them . Not baking a cake is no different then those that were washing their hands up to their elbows. BUT I expect that judging others which is something that is his job alone. is also something he abhors. Wake up people Fanatics have no part in the great scheme of things.
If you own your own bakery,you own your own job.
You'd force someone to abandon their religious beliefs,instead of asking someone to just go to another bakery.
Are you a fanatic? 99.9% of all bakeries will bake a cake for a gay wedding.
So you go after that .1% that won't?

Since: Apr 08

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#3 Friday Nov 16
Maravilla wrote:
if your not going to do the job that you get paid for . then find another job. That goes for any job.We are to show love for our neighbor even if you consider him a enemy, not being a part of this world ,is not doing the things that God abhors. baking a cake, is not one of them . Not baking a cake is no different then those that were washing their hands up to their elbows. BUT I expect that judging others which is something that is his job alone. is also something he abhors. Wake up people Fanatics have no part in the great scheme of things.
If you don't take the job, you aren't getting paid for it.

Since: Feb 07

RI

#4 Friday Nov 16
Maravilla wrote:
if your not going to do the job that you get paid for . then find another job. That goes for any job.We are to show love for our neighbor even if you consider him a enemy, not being a part of this world ,is not doing the things that God abhors. baking a cake, is not one of them . Not baking a cake is no different then those that were washing their hands up to their elbows. BUT I expect that judging others which is something that is his job alone. is also something he abhors. Wake up people Fanatics have no part in the great scheme of things.
You're absolutely correct, Mara.
Burris

United States

#5 Friday Nov 16
Maravilla wrote:
if your not going to do the job that you get paid for . then find another job. That goes for any job.We are to show love for our neighbor even if you consider him a enemy, not being a part of this world ,is not doing the things that God abhors. baking a cake, is not one of them . Not baking a cake is no different then those that were washing their hands up to their elbows. BUT I expect that judging others which is something that is his job alone. is also something he abhors. Wake up people Fanatics have no part in the great scheme of things.
You're absolutely incorrect,Marva.
knowsnothing

United States

#6 Saturday Nov 17
What if you're an artist and you are commissioned to draw something vulgar or sexual? Same principle.
Cordwainer Trout

Richmond, KY

#7 Saturday Nov 17
Homosexual grandstanding and exhibitionism is the sole reason for their existence. Dragging others into their mental problems is not a right. They want to destroy belief systems rejecting their perversions for thousands of years. That's all this is about... dominion. Just as they are forcing teaching their depravities and acting out to young children now, they will end up demanding unlimited access to them eventually. It's time people of faith stand up to these bullies and get rid of the destructive judicial elements supporting them.
wow

Kennett, MO

#8 Saturday Nov 17
The Homosexuals wanted to make a SCENE.....A 'Discrimination Scene.

If they hadn't wanted to make a Scene....they would have ASKED one of their STRAIGHT friends to get their CAKE baked at that Bakery , and put their OWN Topper of 'bride and groom' ON the Cake THEMSELVES!.........Simple...a nd be a "Peace Maker.

The Baker Owner would have NEVER Known they Baked a Homosexual Cake! lol.

( would a Homosexual BAKER, be Punished for refusing to Bake a Cake for a STRAIGHT person?}
Coming to a Theater near you soon!!}
knowsnothing

United States

#9 Saturday Nov 17
client: "Draw a penis on my cake."

baker: "I'm sorry, but I can't draw that. You should hire someone willing to do that."

client: "You're just a bigot! Either you draw this or I'm suing you!"

Impeach the Creep

Madison, WI

#10 Saturday Nov 17
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
Homosexual grandstanding and exhibitionism is the sole reason for their existence. Dragging others into their mental problems is not a right. They want to destroy belief systems rejecting their perversions for thousands of years. That's all this is about... dominion. Just as they are forcing teaching their depravities and acting out to young children now, they will end up demanding unlimited access to them eventually. It's time people of faith stand up to these bullies and get rid of the destructive judicial elements supporting them.
Your near encyclopedic (yet myopic) knowledge of both homosexuality and pedophilia are very telling of who you are as a sub-human.

I pity your neighbors and fear greatly for their children.
wow

Kennett, MO

#11 Saturday Nov 17
knowsnothing wrote:
client: "Draw a penis on my cake."

baker: "I'm sorry, but I can't draw that. You should hire someone willing to do that."

client: "You're just a bigot! Either you draw this or I'm suing you!"

He/she BAKER, didn't REFUSE to Bake the Cake....Just Refused to Draw the penis on the Cake.....

just like the BAKER Could have REFUSED to put the "Homosexual Bride and Groom' Topper on the Cake , and this would have most likely been ACCEPTED.....but they HAD to make the discrimination SCENE.
Tax and spend

New York, NY

#12 Saturday Nov 17
Impeach the Creep wrote:
<quoted text>

Your near encyclopedic (yet myopic) knowledge of both homosexuality and pedophilia are very telling of who you are as a sub-human.

I pity your neighbors and fear greatly for their children.
I fear you are projecting.
NICK

Atlanta, GA

#13 Saturday Nov 17
Impeach the Creep wrote:
<quoted text>

Your near encyclopedic (yet myopic) knowledge of both homosexuality and pedophilia are very telling of who you are as a sub-human.

I pity your neighbors and fear greatly for their children.
Do you have a lot of pent up pity and fear madison?
Jehovah is GOD

Rochester, NY

#14 Saturday Nov 17
Ordinary people who live by their conscience, who know right from wrong, cannot bend their rules to satisfy other ordinary people, homosexuals are not ordinary people. Homosexuals have made themselves perverts and their ungodly life style only acceptable to people who do not care what or how you live, and condone such ungodly conduct, even accepting it as part of nature.
Romans 9: 17, 18

Other people who live by the Bible, and try hard to please Almighty God Jehovah, our Heavenly Father, must live by their Bible trained conscience, as the only begotten Son of God Jesus taught his disciples. Knowing the blessings from Jehovah for being obedient are wonderful.
Philippians 4: 8, 9
reality

Dallas, TX

#15 Saturday Nov 17
wow wrote:
The Homosexuals wanted to make a SCENE.....A 'Discrimination Scene.

If they hadn't wanted to make a Scene....they would have ASKED one of their STRAIGHT friends to get their CAKE baked at that Bakery , and put their OWN Topper of 'bride and groom' ON the Cake THEMSELVES!.........Simple...a nd be a "Peace Maker.

The Baker Owner would have NEVER Known they Baked a Homosexual Cake! lol.

( would a Homosexual BAKER, be Punished for refusing to Bake a Cake for a STRAIGHT person?}
Coming to a Theater near you soon!!}
Great example! None the wiser and a peaceful way to deal with it. Otherwise it looks like they are deliberately trying to cause an issue. Why would someone want to go where there not welcome? Not me, i would rather go somewhere that accepts their choice with no issues but that is jmo.
reality

Dallas, TX

#16 Saturday Nov 17
I also believe in the right to refuse service to anyone as a preference of the business owner for religious reasons. It's their business, they pay for it to stay running through their business and customers. It's their loss if they choose not to do the cake. Makes no sense to cause an issue just take your money where you are wanted

Since: May 12

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#17 Saturday Nov 17
reality wrote:
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Great example! None the wiser and a peaceful way to deal with it. Otherwise it looks like they are deliberately trying to cause an issue. Why would someone want to go where there not welcome? Not me, i would rather go somewhere that accepts their choice with no issues but that is jmo.
They could have gone to virtually any other bakery. They specifically chose one owned by religious fundamentalists. To force home a point.
As Bill Maher said, "is there only one bakery in Colorado"?
NICK

Kimball, MN

#18 Saturday Nov 17
reality wrote:
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Great example! None the wiser and a peaceful way to deal with it. Otherwise it looks like they are deliberately trying to cause an issue. Why would someone want to go where there not welcome? Not me, i would rather go somewhere that accepts their choice with no issues but that is jmo.
They do it to make a statement...keep telltale the lie and eventually they'll believe it..

Schools, television and movies are prime examples...
whiney beech

Bloomingdale, IN

#19 Saturday Nov 17
I would have to consider the chocolate pie from the movie The Help, but perhaps it would not even be noticed.

Since: Mar 17

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#20 Saturday Nov 17
Maravilla wrote:
if your not going to do the job that you get paid for . then find another job. That goes for any job.We are to show love for our neighbor even if you consider him a enemy, not being a part of this world ,is not doing the things that God abhors. baking a cake, is not one of them . Not baking a cake is no different then those that were washing their hands up to their elbows. BUT I expect that judging others which is something that is his job alone. is also something he abhors. Wake up people Fanatics have no part in the great scheme of things.
I sort of agree with a lot of what you say, though sometimes you can be too neutral. Is there any shred of judgment within your post?

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