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Gregory twirls and spins

Burlington, WI

#37714 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Coward.
Troll.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#37715 Feb 17, 2013
Gregory twirls and spins wrote:
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Troll.
Just the facts honey.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
And like numerous other relationships, gay couples not only fail in that basic essence of marriage, they are a defective, desolate contradiction. Literally 'unmarriage'.
The term 'gay marriage' is an oxymoron....
Smile.

“Free your mind”

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#37716 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Just the facts honey.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
And like numerous other relationships, gay couples not only fail in that basic essence of marriage, they are a defective, desolate contradiction. Literally 'unmarriage'.
The term 'gay marriage' is an oxymoron....
Smile.
Keep on little parrot... just repeating the same stuff. You are just showing us how small your brain is and how hard it is for you to logically think about anything. Polly want a cracker?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37717 Feb 17, 2013
TXgurl wrote:
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Keep on little parrot... just repeating the same stuff. You are just showing us how small your brain is and how hard it is for you to logically think about anything. Polly want a cracker?
The truth never changes honey.

The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
A apple tree bearing fruit.
A apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.

The claim that if the government doesn't 'require' apple trees to bear fruit, then it is discrimination not to call walnut trees apple trees too is simply silly.

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.

Moreover, if you remove the element of procreation, you dumb down marriage to just a friendship. Hardly a cause for government interest, let alone selective discrimination.

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#37718 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Just the facts honey.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
......
We know that you think yourself clever for having thought up this thing, but, so far, you have been unable to point out its basis in any marriage law.

You have been unable to show there sex is prohibited outside of your "constraint" of mating behavior in maqrriage, and you can't prove that any such constraints within marriage are not the sole discretion of any married couple.

And, since not all sexual behavior (or even most) is doing to do a darn thing to support the survival of the species, I think your reliance on evolutionary mating behaviors as a point of law is rather silly.

Care to try again? Using logic, please.

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#37719 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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.......
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
A apple tree bearing fruit.
A apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.
......
People are not trees of any variety.

Children are not fruit and nuts.

Do you understand, now? It's really not so hard.

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#37720 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Do you have a logical reasoned answer to this;
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
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Yes, I do.

It's illogical and has no place in basis marriage law.

That's really all that can be said for it.

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#37721 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.
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Hardly.

Gay people have ALL of the same reasons to marry that everyone else has, and their families and children benefit in all of the same ways.

If you believe otherwise, PROVE it.

Inventing silly catch-phrases is not the same thing as proof.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37722 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just the facts honey.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Quest wrote:
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We know that you think yourself clever for having thought up this thing, but, so far, you have been unable to point out its basis in any marriage law.
You have been unable to show there sex is prohibited outside of your "constraint" of mating behavior in maqrriage, and you can't prove that any such constraints within marriage are not the sole discretion of any married couple.
And, since not all sexual behavior (or even most) is doing to do a darn thing to support the survival of the species, I think your reliance on evolutionary mating behaviors as a point of law is rather silly.
Care to try again? Using logic, please.
I have no need to show anything you claim. I simply described the bare essence of marriage. It stands on it's own merits.

You only confirm the statement with your 'argument'.

Social scientists assert that marriage would not exist were it not for children. The motivation of mating behavior is simply but powerfully to spread DNA as far and wide as possible. It is why sexual activity often occurs outside marriage with only an unintended consequence of children.

The constraint of marriage is simply to restrain couples to care for their offspring.

I made no attempt to make mating behavior a point of law. That is silly. It is a simple fact that law ignores at it's own peril.

I do commend you for being one of the first on these threads to even attempt a response.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37723 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
.......
The differences between marriage with/without kids and gay couples;
A apple tree bearing fruit.
A apple tree not bearing fruit for some reason.
A walnut tree who never bears any fruit wanting to be a apple tree.
A walnut tree hanging apples on it's branches pretending to be a apple tree.
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
People are not trees of any variety.
Children are not fruit and nuts.
Do you understand, now? It's really not so hard.
You disappoint me.

Are you really saying you didn't understand that as an analogy?

Do I need to explain to you how this analogy works?

Your silly response only exposes how empty handed your position is against simple reality.

Please, if you have an reasoned logical response, I will be delighted to consider it. But games like these are beneath the dignity of adults.

Smile.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37724 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just the facts honey.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
<quoted text>
I have no need to show anything you claim. I simply described the bare essence of marriage. It stands on it's own merits.
You only confirm the statement with your 'argument'.
Social scientists assert that marriage would not exist were it not for children. The motivation of mating behavior is simply but powerfully to spread DNA as far and wide as possible. It is why sexual activity often occurs outside marriage with only an unintended consequence of children.
The constraint of marriage is simply to restrain couples to care for their offspring.
I made no attempt to make mating behavior a point of law. That is silly. It is a simple fact that law ignores at it's own peril.
I do commend you for being one of the first on these threads to even attempt a response.
Smile.
fact...

Your opinions/beliefs have no bearing on the thousands of SSM's that already exist.

In spite of your verbal ejaculations, you're still powerless to do anything other than spout opinions. In other words, they're no less legally married.

All this wasted effort. What does a girl have to do to get a tube of Vagisil?????

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37725 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a logical reasoned answer to this;
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I do.
It's illogical and has no place in basis marriage law.
That's really all that can be said for it.
Apparently you recognized the silliness of your first response and now are trying the denial track.

To try to legally equate two different relationships, you must show that they are essentially the same.

At it's most basic essence, marriage is distinguished from friendships because it is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. In other words, it unites a couple and provides the best setting for their children.

The importance of this identity has already been recognized by SCOTUS numerous times as an essential relationship for the survival of society.

Out of all types of friendships, gay couples are the least qualified for the relationship of marriage. They are a direct contradiction to the fundamental goal of mating behavior. Literally 'unmarriage'.

You were saying...

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37726 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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Do I need to explain to you how this analogy works?
When you need to explain the analogy, it isn't working.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37727 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Gay couples do not just fail in the primary essence of marriage, out of all relationships, they are the oxymoron of marriage.
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Hardly.
Gay people have ALL of the same reasons to marry that everyone else has, and their families and children benefit in all of the same ways.
If you believe otherwise, PROVE it.
Inventing silly catch-phrases is not the same thing as proof.
I invented nothing.

I simply stated the bare essence of marriage in clear and established scientific facts.

That includes the scientific absolute that gay couples cannot procreate. A clear distinction from the core essence of marriage.

The proof is already stated, and you have no argument against it.

Smile.

Since: Mar 07

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#37728 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Just the facts honey.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
<quoted text>
I have no need to show anything you claim......
Smile.
Actually, you do.

You created a phrase, and seem to think that repeating it is enough.

It's not.

If you want to argue that same sex marriages should not be legal, then you really do need prove why.

And you can't.

All the smirking and inappropriate smiling in the world won't make you appear sane, unless you CAN prove that there is some rational reason behind your opinions.

You make them. Now, back them up.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#37729 Feb 17, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you do.
You created a phrase, and seem to think that repeating it is enough.
It's not.
If you want to argue that same sex marriages should not be legal, then you really do need prove why.
And you can't.
All the smirking and inappropriate smiling in the world won't make you appear sane, unless you CAN prove that there is some rational reason behind your opinions.
You make them. Now, back them up.
He's never been able to state a case against SSM, or even how/why SSM would affect him at all.

Which is why, when I look up from between his legs, I just see a troll.

Since: Mar 07

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#37730 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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.....
...
I simply stated the bare essence of marriage in clear and established scientific facts.
.........
You haven't mentioned a single fact, and you know it. That's why your sanity is in question.

You repeat a meaningless phrase, but no substance. That's not rational.

Neither is the silly "smile" stuff.

It's what you do when you know you don't have anything better, but it doesn't prove you wise, just arrogant and out of touch with what;s going on around you.

I do feel sorry for you. Most of us do. It must be hard to live in a sad little world of your own creation, reaching out for help and attention, but not knowing how to receive it.

Someday, perhaps you will learn to function more successfully in life, and with other people. I hope so.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37731 Feb 17, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, you do.
You created a phrase, and seem to think that repeating it is enough.
It's not.
If you want to argue that same sex marriages should not be legal, then you really do need prove why.
And you can't.
All the smirking and inappropriate smiling in the world won't make you appear sane, unless you CAN prove that there is some rational reason behind your opinions.
You make them. Now, back them up.
Actually, I went ahead and did explain why. Just for you.

But for some reason you deleted the rest of the post...

Here it is;

Just the facts honey.
Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
We know that you think yourself clever for having thought up this thing, but, so far, you have been unable to point out its basis in any marriage law.
You have been unable to show there sex is prohibited outside of your "constraint" of mating behavior in maqrriage, and you can't prove that any such constraints within marriage are not the sole discretion of any married couple.
And, since not all sexual behavior (or even most) is doing to do a darn thing to support the survival of the species, I think your reliance on evolutionary mating behaviors as a point of law is rather silly.
Care to try again? Using logic, please.

I have no need to show anything you claim. I simply described the bare essence of marriage. It stands on it's own merits.

You only confirm the statement with your 'argument'.

Social scientists assert that marriage would not exist were it not for children. The motivation of mating behavior is simply but powerfully to spread DNA as far and wide as possible. It is why sexual activity often occurs outside marriage with only an unintended consequence of children.

The constraint of marriage is simply to restrain couples to care for their offspring.

I made no attempt to make mating behavior a point of law. That is silly. It is a simple fact that law ignores at it's own peril.

I do commend you for being one of the first on these threads to even attempt a response.

Smile.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#37732 Feb 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
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At it's most basic essence, marriage is distinguished from friendships because it is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior. In other words, it unites a couple and provides the best setting for their children.
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OMG, you are like a parrot. In so many ways.

Yes, gay folks understand the difference between friendships and marriages, though one is best based on the other.

And yes, it unites gay couples in the same way, and provides the best setting for THEIR children.

Thanks for noticing.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#37733 Feb 17, 2013
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
You haven't mentioned a single fact, and you know it. That's why your sanity is in question.
You repeat a meaningless phrase, but no substance. That's not rational.
Neither is the silly "smile" stuff.
It's what you do when you know you don't have anything better, but it doesn't prove you wise, just arrogant and out of touch with what;s going on around you.
I do feel sorry for you. Most of us do. It must be hard to live in a sad little world of your own creation, reaching out for help and attention, but not knowing how to receive it.
Someday, perhaps you will learn to function more successfully in life, and with other people. I hope so.
Saying something is meaningless without detailing why is an opinion.

The truth is, you have no logical response to the simple unadulterated truth. That is why it bothers you so much...

Be specific, what don't you understand (smile);

Marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

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