How a wedding cake became a cause

How a wedding cake became a cause

There are 26 comments on the Sunherald.com story from Apr 5, 2014, titled How a wedding cake became a cause. In it, Sunherald.com reports that:

Phillips stepped out from behind the counter in his small, pastry-crammed shop to meet customers Charlie Craig and Dave Mullins.

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#1 Apr 5, 2014
""Phillips said he once employed a gay man in his bakery and makes regular birthday cakes for a lesbian couple. His youngest daughter, Lisa Eldfrick, 34, said Phillips never had problems with her and her siblings' various gay friends.

The gay couple told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage.

Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.""

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#2 Apr 5, 2014
If this were really about violating his "Christian faith" he wouldn't have trimmed his hair and beard in violation of Leviticus 19:27 and wouldn't be wearing two different types of fiber in violation of Leviticus 19:19. And unless his cakes are all fat-free, he's in violation of Leviticus 3:17. No, it's just plain old bigotry.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Apr 5, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
""Phillips said he once employed a gay man in his bakery and makes regular birthday cakes for a lesbian couple. His youngest daughter, Lisa Eldfrick, 34, said Phillips never had problems with her and her siblings' various gay friends.
The gay couple told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage.
Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.""
As long as he doesn't make cakes for ANY wedding reception or ANY Halloween party or ANY bachelor party, he'd be in full compliance of the law.

But when he refuses to make a "gay wedding" cake or a "black Halloween" cake or an "Jew bachelor" party, then he's violating the law, regardless of his personal beliefs- religious or otherwise.

Selling some items to gays or blacks or Jews but not other items which are available to everyone else doesn't let you off the hook.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#10 Apr 6, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
""Phillips said he once employed a gay man in his bakery and makes regular birthday cakes for a lesbian couple. His youngest daughter, Lisa Eldfrick, 34, said Phillips never had problems with her and her siblings' various gay friends.
The gay couple told him they wanted a cake to celebrate their own marriage.
Phillips replied he couldn't, but that he'd be glad to make one for other occasions, such as birthdays. Left unsaid was how making a gay wedding cake would violate his Christian faith, how he does not make ones for Halloween or bachelor parties, either.""
Left unsaid?

Why would you tell an obvious lie like that, Rev Anal? It's right in the judge's decision. https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/asse...

11. Phillips has been a Christian for approximately 35 years, and believes in Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior. As a Christian, Phillips’ main goal in life is to be obedient to Jesus and His teachings in all aspects of his life.
12. Phillips believes that the Bible is the inspired word of God, that its accounts are literally true, and that its commands are binding on him.
13. Phillips believes that God created Adam and Eve, and that God’s intention for marriage is the union of one man and one woman. Phillips relies upon Bible passages such as Mark 10:6-9 (NIV)(“[F]rom the beginning of creation, God made them male and female, for this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united with his wife and the two will become one flesh. So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore, what God has joined together, let not man separate.”)
14. Phillips also believes that the Bible commands him to avoid doing anything that would displease God, and not to encourage sin in any way.
15. Phillips believes that decorating cakes is a form of art and creative expression, and that he can honor God through his artistic talents.
16. Phillips believes that if he uses his artistic talents to participate in same-sex weddings by creating a wedding cake, he will be displeasing God and acting contrary to the teachings of the Bible.

I think that spells out how he believes it would violate his Christian faith.

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#11 Apr 6, 2014
GoldenGator wrote:
If this were really about violating his "Christian faith" he wouldn't have trimmed his hair and beard in violation of Leviticus 19:27 and wouldn't be wearing two different types of fiber in violation of Leviticus 19:19. And unless his cakes are all fat-free, he's in violation of Leviticus 3:17. No, it's just plain old bigotry.
In a free country one has the right to be a bigot. In America those bigots who worship Government are the biggest and worse bigots.

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#12 Apr 6, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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As long as he doesn't make cakes for ANY wedding reception or ANY Halloween party or ANY bachelor party, he'd be in full compliance of the law.
But when he refuses to make a "gay wedding" cake or a "black Halloween" cake or an "Jew bachelor" party, then he's violating the law, regardless of his personal beliefs- religious or otherwise.
Selling some items to gays or blacks or Jews but not other items which are available to everyone else doesn't let you off the hook.
The laws invented by the sociopathic scumbags in Washington are irrelevant to a free people. But you do not want to live in a free country, you want to live in a terrorist state where you worship the terrorists. Screw the law. I am under no obligation to obey an unjust, unfair and unconstitutional law and you can't say anything to change that. If you want to worship government then do so. I want no part of the scumbags you worship telling me how to live my life. Anarchy is the only sane form of government. You deserve all the bad things that happen to you. Mississippi is just the beginning.
david traversa

Argentina

#15 Apr 6, 2014
Wedding or birthday .. no matter ; cake is junk food and bad for your health .
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#16 Apr 6, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
The laws invented by the sociopathic scumbags in Washington are irrelevant to a free people. But you do not want to live in a free country, you want to live in a terrorist state where you worship the terrorists. Screw the law. I am under no obligation to obey an unjust, unfair and unconstitutional law and you can't say anything to change that. If you want to worship government then do so. I want no part of the scumbags you worship telling me how to live my life. Anarchy is the only sane form of government. You deserve all the bad things that happen to you. Mississippi is just the beginning.
You go right ahead and believe that our laws are irrelevant. Don't be surprised when you end up in jail, you un-American p.o.s.

You say: Anarchy is the only sane form of government? Yep, you are retarded.

1. general lawlessness and disorder, esp when thought to result from an absence or failure of government:
2. the absence or lack of government
3. Absence of any form of political authority.
4. Political disorder and confusion.
5. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#17 Apr 6, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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In a free country one has the right to be a bigot. In America those bigots who worship Government are the biggest and worse bigots.
So you are going to ignore being called out for your big, fat lie, eh?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#18 Apr 6, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
The laws invented by the sociopathic scumbags in Washington are irrelevant to a free people. But you do not want to live in a free country, you want to live in a terrorist state where you worship the terrorists. Screw the law. I am under no obligation to obey an unjust, unfair and unconstitutional law and you can't say anything to change that. If you want to worship government then do so. I want no part of the scumbags you worship telling me how to live my life. Anarchy is the only sane form of government. You deserve all the bad things that happen to you. Mississippi is just the beginning.
You are free to live an anarchist lifestyle in America, but if you break the law in the process, your fellow citizens have every right to ensure the laws which we as a society agreed to are enforced.

If you don't like how America works, then either work within the system to change it, learn to live with it, or leave.
Xavier Breath

Brooklyn, NY

#19 Apr 6, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
You are free to live an anarchist lifestyle in America, but if you break the law in the process, your fellow citizens have every right to ensure the laws which we as a society agreed to are enforced.
If you don't like how America works, then either work within the system to change it, learn to live with it, or leave.
Sing Hallelujah!

“Equality First”

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#22 Apr 7, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
The laws invented by the sociopathic scumbags in Washington are irrelevant to a free people. But you do not want to live in a free country, you want to live in a terrorist state where you worship the terrorists. Screw the law. I am under no obligation to obey an unjust, unfair and unconstitutional law and you can't say anything to change that. If you want to worship government then do so. I want no part of the scumbags you worship telling me how to live my life. Anarchy is the only sane form of government. You deserve all the bad things that happen to you. Mississippi is just the beginning.
Please, in all your wisdom, show us a positive example of any country living in Anarchy that has survived and prospered. I simply can't wait for the answer.

“Equality First”

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#23 Apr 7, 2014
By the way, Rev., that simple statement about "Anarchy is the only sane form of government" has nailed the coffin shut on whatever credibility you may have had, if any.

Since: Oct 10

San Francisco

#24 Apr 7, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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In a free country one has the right to be a bigot. In America those bigots who worship Government are the biggest and worse bigots.
Did you intentionally miss the point? He's a liar and a hypocrite by invoking his christian faith as an excuse for his bigotry. This has nothing to do with bigots who worship government or similar nonsense.

Ask your doctor is Clozaril® is right for you.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#25 Apr 7, 2014
SCOTUS denied the appeal of a similar case from New Mexico, thereby upholding state anti-discrimination laws protecting gays & lesbians.

And the bigots lose AGAIN!!!

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#27 Apr 8, 2014
GoldenGator wrote:
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Did you intentionally miss the point? He's a liar and a hypocrite by invoking his christian faith as an excuse for his bigotry. This has nothing to do with bigots who worship government or similar nonsense.
Ask your doctor is Clozaril® is right for you.
You are the one who has missed the point. One does not need a reason to refuse to associate with someone. His Christian nonsense is irrelevant.

here is an explanation for you about those bigots who worship government.

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#28 Apr 8, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
And the bigots lose AGAIN!!!
What did you lose?

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#29 Apr 8, 2014
RalphB wrote:
By the way, Rev., that simple statement about "Anarchy is the only sane form of government" has nailed the coffin shut on whatever credibility you may have had, if any.
You and your fellow liberals who LOVE and WORSHIP Government never had any credibility in the first place.

Anarchy is the only sane way to live. Government micromanagement is insanity.



Please do not ask me to explain Anarchy to you. This video can explain it all. I am sure you will find all kinds of things to disagree with. Let me know.

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#30 Apr 8, 2014
RalphB wrote:
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Please, in all your wisdom, show us a positive example of any country living in Anarchy that has survived and prospered. I simply can't wait for the answer.
Anarchy explained

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#31 Apr 8, 2014
WeTheSheeple wrote:
<quoted text>
You are free to live an anarchist lifestyle in America, but if you break the law in the process, your fellow citizens have every right to ensure the laws which we as a society agreed to are enforced.
If you don't like how America works, then either work within the system to change it, learn to live with it, or leave.
Your assumptions PROVE BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF A DOUBT that you do not know what Anarchy is. I know you are a Gay Nazi and Anarchy is the complete opposite of what you believe in. You believe in complete and total control of the government over every aspect of our lives and I believe in as little government as possible. You think our "leaders" are wonderful genius's and I think they are all parasitic criminal con-artist scumbags.

We will never agree. You believe in micromanagement of our lives and I believe in freedom and liberty. I believe in the Constitution and you believe in the laws passed that violate its limitations.

I think you are insane but you may just be uneducated. I haven't given up on you yet.

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