East or West? Ukraine now has to choose its path

Nov 18, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Lincoln Daily News

According to an old folk tradition, if a man knocks on the door of a Ukrainian beauty with a marriage proposal but does not win her heart, she will reject her suitor by presenting him with a pumpkin.

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“Dimitri at the races in Russia”

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A pumpkin lol ?
How about a brew-up of kholkhoznik´s borscht ?

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-22805...

Recently, I was offered to buy a truck load of Polak kielbasas. Contacted, a Ukra market to offer it.
Then I had a look at Ukra roads, there is no chance to deliver them Polak kielbasas. Plenty of pot holes awaits you there. Some say, Ukra thieves are waiting, hidden behind the trees too.
Should we allow Ukras to EU, then ?
Lukashenko is Dr Phil

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Ukrainka milk maids will choose the highest bidder. Some say though the fresh meat merchandise is a bit saggy. Ukrainkas born in 1994 and 1995 tend to be short ugly hairy beach whale sows with bad teeth and stinky armpits. According to some sources even turkeys have stopped traveling to Odessa.
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Finland shoud be Nuked.

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Are you telling us even turkeys stopped flying over for b-jibes ?
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Apparently Erdogan managed to supply them with polaks and kholkhozniks. Turkey is doing nice these days while Balkan, Polakia and Ukrainka are starving. According to some Erdogan will deport illiterate kurds and romas to Ukrainka and Polakia.
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Ukraine need to look at EAST.

Down with America and Europe!

Glory to Russia and China!
Abe

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ZydChimp wrote:
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Poland is richer than Turkey you dumb Zyd animal!
You worthless toilet cleaners have recieved billion form EU, IMF, World Bank and countless other organization. Turkey hasn't recievied a dime and that is why it is more respectable country.
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Nov 22, 2013
 
Ukraine needs to be like Viet Nam, have friends north, south, east, west!!!
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The Iron Dicky wrote:
Ukraine is East like Japan.
Ukraine is not East, it's central, it's biggest enemy is North and East, Putinland.
Abe

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Nov 22, 2013
 
You are peasants. Always have been and always will be. Nothing more.
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The Iron Dicky wrote:
<quoted text>West is Enemy of Ukraine.
But Ukraine just rejected West and now Ukraine will NEVER be part of that evil EU.
Good news.
Ukraine didn't reject the EU, Putin's puppet Yanukovich did, when he's thrown from power the EU talks will begin again.

In what way is the West the enemy of Ukraine, you dumbo?
JBH

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Nov 22, 2013
 
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Former President George W. Bush says he's "not too worried" about how history will judge his presidency.

"I did the best I could do," Bush told Tonight Show host Jay Leno "I'm also very comfortable with the fact that it's going take a while for history to judge whether the decisions I made are consequential or not. And therefore, I'm not too worried about it."

He said history is still fully assessing the legacies of previous presidents.

"I've read some biographies of Washington," Bush said. "My attitude is if they're still writing biographies of the first guy, the 43rd guy doesn't need to worry about it."

Via Talking Points Memo

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Regarding the above, it shows there is a president called Bush who lied about war in Iraq and still never gets conscious to the fact it was--he lied.

That shows the defeat of Usa as a liars' nation to its people and the world.
Because there was Bush, then there came Obama to be president from opposing the war of Iraq. Yet, he is another liar, by declaring "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq--which is equal to mission accomplished by killing 5000 US soldiers and trillions of US dollars disposed at Iraq.
There you came with Obama by doing more on Patriot Act started by Bush, snooping and spying on more civilians, and using more drones to kill more innocent people.

The subject of the focal point is who would continue and promote Bush programs. Obviously, it would be Obama because he is doing the same Bush programs on nailing down on North Korea and Iran on nuclear weapons issue as well.

But then, why would Ukraine join UN, to be manipulated by US while Putin is doing Bush cloned programs on North Korea and Iran, and talks about WMD in Syria everywhere all the time to remove world defense weapons from US aggression, by following Bush's sayings and doing for US?

However, even Russia's Putin falls into doing as the same Bush clown by telling North Korea to ban nuclear and WMD and on Iran too of the same thing. While Usa stations anti-missile system in Romania and Russia gets angry on that, how would Russia talk something about North Korea and Iran for US, as al-qaeda bombed Iran embassy too, besides bombing US embassy in Libya? There shows Russia would not go far as well since it just tries to balance its Asia policy by making gesture to South Korea for linkage to Europe in retrospect to North Korea lately.

Today, people are concerned that it seems US is a more dangerous and evil nation than other ones by lying from doing Bush programs continuously even he is gone. North Korea and Iran have been more peaceful all along for many years while US is not. It was US which first used atomic bombs to Japan and used military to lie to make war in Iraq and do lots of drones inside and around the world. But US lost about 48,000 soldiers fighting North Korea in the Korea War. As US could not win wars with its modern technological weapons, watch out China that its military is gaining forces and uprising. It is thus ridiculous for such lacking real sense way to talk about others like North Korea and Iran which have not done those of any making wars AND aggression BEFORE, but just want to have nuclear weapons for their defense, while US was not.
The final story is that Usa has been uncovered as a liars' nation with liar presidents time after time, from Bush to Obama with no change--perhaps that was why John F. Kennedy was assassinated.

There you go again--just who would follow what US says, from North Korea to Iran and now about Phillipine's big typhoon disaster? Because US could not even take care of its people in its Katrina Hurricane syndrome and in other things, and it wants to show caring of others, that is simply appalling.

AIN'T THAT SO--to put it in proper wording, isn't that really so as that is all such means to you?
JBH

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Nov 22, 2013
 
Is Putin addicted to Bush lies about War in Iraq and WMD issue, by showing interests to rid of world weapons, by telling North Korea to dump WMD too from Bush saying, but not US aggression weapons?

Is Putin another Bush to do Bush's saying of Iran and North Korea on WMD, besides Obama?

How come US i snot rid of its nuclear weapons by being not peaceful to Iraq and said it wanted to strike Syria?

EU is really the thing, not UN--But then, why would Ukraine join EU, to be manipulated by US while Putin is doing Bush cloned programs on North Korea and Iran, and talks about WMD in Syria everywhere all the time to remove world defense weapons from US aggression, by following Bush's sayings and doing for US?

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Nov 22, 2013
 
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>Ukraine didn't reject the EU, Putin's puppet Yanukovich did, when he's thrown from power the EU talks will begin again.
In what way is the West the enemy of Ukraine, you dumbo?
It wants Ukranian population to pay European prices for gas and eletricity.

It wants to shut down nearly all Euronean industrial business, just because it fails to comply with idiotic European standards or to spend a great deal of money to comply with them. The sum is estimated 160 bln.$ for all Ukranian industry.
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Russian power over Poland wrote:
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It wants Ukranian population to pay European prices for gas and eletricity.
It wants to shut down nearly all Euronean industrial business, just because it fails to comply with idiotic European standards or to spend a great deal of money to comply with them. The sum is estimated 160 bln.$ for all Ukranian industry.
While Putin offers Ukraine really cheap gas, LOL!
The rest of your post is also nonsense.
JBH

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Nov 23, 2013
 
If Hitler said of Axis-of-evil, nuclear weapons issue and WMD of others, these would be Hitler programs.
Imagine Bush as a neo-Hitler hypocrite by lying about WMD (for aggression like Hitler) by war to Iraq, there are still neo-radicals like Obama and Putin to continuously carry the war criminal Bush programs about nuclear weapons and WMD issues.

Still, history never wakes up to the awareness of continuous neo-Hitler alike programs, being alike as Bush calling on North Korea and Iran. In other words, they are still doing the following and enforcement of Bush's call on nuclear weapons issue on North Korea and Iran--just like neo-Nazis are still doing the following of Hitler doctrine and programs after WWII.

But, they never wake up to stop and cease Bush programs and calls after he is gone. If Bush is gone, why would they still do what he said before, on North Korea and Iran--just as if Hitler was gone, why would they continue with Hitler doctrine any more?

Yeah, to give you one more time, what makes one think that North Korea and Iran would use nukes if they have them, other than Usa--since it used atomic bombs to Japan once it had them for just less than 6 months? That is not the justification to say to save lives to use them, because if that is the case, every war is a nuke war then, including Korean, Vietnam and Iraq wars, by calling to say to save lives.

Yet, they still do not understand the magnitude and difference between nuke weapons and other WMD, such as chemical and biological weapons.

To certain extent, sarin gas is not that dynamically dangerous in measurement of the destruction effects, but it is not to say sarin gas is not poisonous either. But nuclear weapons today are at least one billion times heavier in destruction ratio than chemical weapons from nuclear radiation and environmental demolishing globally.

Obama was a total crazy radical by calling redline on Syria in the first place. Whether what he said of the August 21 case of Syria using sarin gas might be another serious lie, this would register in history as another serious case of lying to strike Syria, just like Iraq by Bush, despite it did not materialize. Regardless whether it actualized or not, the lying by Obama to Syria to make war is the point of the subject.

There you have not--Putin is another neo-Bush (as a follower of Bush at the current time by calling and doing the same Bush things on North Korea and Iran), just like Obama.
Putin has no principle and value either and is more interested in the relationship with US by saying that Snowden was no good and stood in the way, since US wanted to snatch and stop Snowden by creating International chaos and disorder.

Here you go again, won't you believe it and ain't they true--to put it in perspective wording, are these such things true to you or not in your beliefs?
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Nov 23, 2013
 
Pro Ukraine wrote:
<quoted text>Ukraine is not East, it's central, it's biggest enemy is North and East, Putinland.
Can you explain what makes Putin Ukrains enemy?
JBH

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The Iron Dicky wrote:
<quoted text>Obama is more like Bush.
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Nobody likes Obama at all time.

Even in USA, those who elected him do not like him now.

It is questionable about Russia's conventional weaponry and military these days as it is shy of demonstrating them, despite it is improving its submarine technology.
However, Russia does have a strong and viable edge in strategic weapons to Usa, since it has dug deep tunnels and upgraded strategic weapons extensively after US pulled away from the ABM treaty by Bush.
The contention of conventional military is now aggregated in Asia Pacific. China has produced much military equipment from the hardware it bought from Russia and its military is getting very large. Even US military admits that CHINA'S SUBMARINES CAN BE BETTER THAN THOSE OF US. Because other countries are facing China, India is buying a lots from Russia,including aircraft-carriers, while Japan is producing more equipment on its own from its high technology.
North Korea has been training its military all along for many years while Vietnam is also active after Vietnam War.

Russia plays the Asia card in a mixture of sides between India, Japan, two Koreas and China very well as it is like on all of these sides. So, as they build up the military there, the Russian position in Asia Pacific makes unlikely for heavy military riff but their military building of countries at these times. Russia is also concerned about Europe and EU, that it is trying to gain back support from Europe, including from Ukraine. As US deals with China only on economic concern to China's thinking, so US is still the adversary to the Chinese in these military ASPECTS.

US has been too much emphasizing in dealing with China in economics only. It is uncertain whether countries would stick and count on uSa in the long range aspects if China and Russia increasingly show strength in military enhancement. It is also not sure how long China's economic dream can last.

The focus is who would become more vital to these countries's choices in the long run, including those in Europe, Usa or Russia or China?

THE FACT IS THAT RUSSIA HAS AN ADVANTAGE IN STRATEGIC WEAPONS TO US, as this is the basis for the appraising of modern conventional weaponry and military.

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