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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Taxpaying Citizen

Springfield, OH

#30106 Jan 23, 2014
According to the new 2013 ODE High School Report Card, 22% of our high school students scored 65% or below on the OGT (Ohio Graduation

According to the new 2013 ODE High School Report Card, 22% of our high school students scored 65% or below on the OGT (Ohio Graduation Test) last year. One in Four of our students fail the State standardized test. How could that be when we Taxpayers have been told that 40% of our students are gifted? Someone is dropping the ball big time. Who is accountable for this poor performance?

The Truth is found in the History of a man who led our school district as high school principal for 13 years, Ron Malone, who held a special place of trust, authority, and influence in our community. How he chose to WASTE those gifts is revealed by his own PUBLIC PROUNCEMENT of spreading lies throughout our community in his March 2012 community wide Protest Against the Board of Education's authority to transfer a Principal that is under-performing.

As a taxpaying citizen in this school district, I believe IF there were "mis-steps made by our March 2012 board members (Scott Anderson, Don Miller,Kelly Kohls, Jim Rigano and David Petroni)
then it would have to be their Failure to Fire Dr. Ron Malone and tell Springboro Taxpayers the true history of his misallocation of district and taxpayer resource, running our high school like a union shop, making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those whose skills were not in demand. This tactic robbed resources from areas of greater need in the district. Those who suffered the most were the gifted and those in need of early intervention.

Isn't it ironic that Mr. Malone, who (in my own opinion) led a Vote for Revenge "witch hunt" (politics of personal destruction) throughout this school district for Two years against Kelly Kohls, Jim Rigano, and David Petroni, has now been rewarded by election to school board?

Stay Alert Voters! This group won't allow their Shallow Victory at the 2013 polls to stop their "witch hunt" AGAINST Springboro Taxpayers and our Children First! They are hurting Our Kids in the Classroom and Our Springboro citizens by their hatred of our school district's Vision of Reform; and will stop at nothing to discredit the progress made in the past two years, by board members Jim Rigano and David Petroni, who have successfully interrupted their political agenda with the implementation of Children First Budget.

Last board meeting we witnessed the rude arrogance of Ron Malone, as he mis-used, again, the TRUST of BOE elected office and his influence in this community, proving to Springboro Taxpayers that he cares only about pushing our Children First OUT of the boardroom; defining his role of school board member as "running our school district like a union shop," just like he ran our high school; to the detriment of our school children and our community.
Into Our Own Hands

Springfield, OH

#30107 Jan 23, 2014
The Gannon FIle wrote:
Hey, vote down levies, so the kids become Purdue Shooters!
Either now, or 6-8 years ago, when the Purdue shooter was a Springboro high school student, do you believe voters in this district would collectively support a levy that would raise the capital necessary to put resourse officers all six Springboro instructional facilities?
Guns are not the problem in our schools. The problem lies in the overall mental health of our society.

In the future, school shootings may begin to be stemmed if mental health problems are better detected from early childhood into adolesence. In almost all of America's school shootings, school resource officers, police and SWAT show up in just enough time to watch the suicide, wipe up blood, take names, and wait for the coroner. Sure, more money and resourses may be applied to updating building perimeter security measues, improving camera angles, etc. There is certainly nothing wrong with a wise strategy of immediately reporting any unusual out-of-the-norm activity going on around any specific school facility. However, make no mistake about it. The first line of defense against school gun attack are properly trained, undisclosed, ARMED individuals who are already in the principal offices, already in the school's halls, already in the school's gym, already in the school's classrooms. In each building, we need volunteer staff with trained conceal and carry to be there in those precious seconds after 911 has been called, and bullets have already begun to fly.

Most importantly, undisclosed conceal carry serves as a better deterrant to a school attack because in "planned" school attack scenario, an attacker would not know the identities of conceal carry, and thus, would be more likely to bail out of their plan. In the event of an unplanned attack, neither the presence of either conceal carry or uniformed resource officers makes much of a difference in terms of being a deterrent.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30108 Jan 23, 2014
Into Our Own Hands wrote:
<quoted text>

In the event of an unplanned attack, neither the presence of either conceal carry or uniformed resource officers makes much of a difference in terms of being a deterrent.
On the contrary, in shootings where someone was armed and fought back, the attacks quickly flagged with the realization that these were not the sheep the shooter sought.

The ability to return fire is huge in such a situation, as anywhere armed opposition occurred we find casualties are fewer and the rampage shorter.

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/20...

Show me an alternate example of a mass murderer being negotiated into a cease fire or being deterred by your sign with a diagonal line through a gun marking this place as a gun free zone.

Time for the good guys to take back our communities.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30109 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Same Bravo Sierra, Different day.
The floor is cleared for you to provide an alternate reading of our state test results.

Please.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30110 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not ask a question that can be answered! If I had the ability to read the "minds" or "will" of the current board I may be able to answer your question. Considering that isn't possible the question you pose is absolutely absurd.
I guess we should expect that from an "inquiring" mind as opposed to one that already has their mind made up and can think for itself.
Then perhaps we should ask the current members of the board and seek the answer from the horse's mouth.
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30111 Jan 23, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The floor is cleared for you to provide an alternate reading of our state test results.
Please.
The alternate reading means putting them into context of other schools around us, but you don't like to do that. You want to measure everything by 100% perfect standards.

A standard I'm sure YOU live up to.(unless you count backing candidates).

The questions you pose have NO bearing on the community WHATSOEVER. The oratory is repetitive and seems to be falling on deaf ears for over a year now.

No one is buying your Bravo Sierra.
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30113 Jan 23, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The floor is cleared for you to provide an alternate reading of our state test results.
Please.
Performance Index 2012-2013
The Performance Index measures the test results of every student, not just those who score proficient or higher. There are six levels on the index and districts receive points for every student in each of these levels. The higher the achievement level, the more the points awarded in the district's index. This rewards schools and districts for improving performance.

Achievement Level % of Students Points for Level Points Received
Advanced Plus 0.5 1.3 0.6
Advanced 36.0 1.2 43.2
Accelerated 30.8 1.1 33.9
Proficient 25.5 1.0 25.5
Basic 5.3 0.6 3.2
Limited 1.8 0.3 0.5
Untested 0.1 0.0 0.0
106.9

89.1%(106.9 out of 120.0)

A =90.0 - 100.0%
B =80.0 - 89.9%
C =70.0 - 79.9%
D =50.0 - 69.9%
F =0.0 - 49.9%

School Year Performance Index
2010 - 2011 111.1
2011 - 2012 110.2
2012 - 2013 106.9

Notice a trend? How's that CHILDREN'S FIRST budgeting working out for ya?
Did You Know

Springfield, OH

#30114 Jan 23, 2014
Did You Know ..... According to the Boro E News for January 23, 2014, more than $250,000 of school fees are still unpaid AND this directly IMPACTS school operations?

Check out the facts and consequences for students if parents do not pay this fee for their own students by the deadline date of January 31, 2014, on the Springboro Schools website.

Did You Know that last year (2013) when Unpaid fees by Parents of school children were being discussed in the public board meetings that Ron Malone (who was employed as insanely popular SHS principal with the union activists/pro levy lovers) endorsed an UnNecessary May 2013 proposed CCFD fire levy 93% tax increase on every Springboro Family in the Clearcreek/Springboro voting district?

Did You Know that Ron Malone, Charles Anderson, and David Stuckey all three were FOR over-taxing Springboro families the FULL $9.2 million Renewal Levy BEFORE they supported the honest amount needed in Reduced Renewal Levy saving Springboro Families $6.5 million, putting Our Students First while maintaining fiscal integrity within the framework of our Children First Budget?

Did You Know that board appointments will be made at the January 23 public BOE meeting to influential committees; and that most likely the arrogant votes of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey will throw Our Children First and Budget Transparency out of the board room; shutting out the Voice of the Community, just as previous board members practiced in the bad old days of the good of Baker boys days?
Did You Know

Springfield, OH

#30115 Jan 23, 2014
Did You Know ..... According to the Boro E News for January 23, 2014, more than $250,000 of school fees are still unpaid AND this directly IMPACTS school operations?

Check out the facts and consequences for students if parents do not pay this fee for their own students by the deadline date of January 31, 2014, on the Springboro Schools website.

Did You Know that last year (2013) when Unpaid fees by Parents of school children were being discussed in the public board meetings that Ron Malone (who was employed as insanely popular SHS principal with the union activists/pro levy lovers) endorsed an UnNecessary May 2013 proposed CCFD fire levy 93% tax increase on every Springboro Family in the Clearcreek/Springboro voting district?

Did You Know that Ron Malone, Charles Anderson, and David Stuckey all three were FOR over-taxing Springboro families the FULL $9.2 million Renewal Levy BEFORE they supported the honest amount needed in Reduced Renewal Levy saving Springboro Families $6.5 million, putting Our Students First while maintaining fiscal integrity within the framework of our Children First Budget?

Did You Know that board appointments will be made at the January 23 public BOE meeting to influential committees; and that most likely the arrogant votes of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey will throw Our Children First and Budget Transparency out of the board room; shutting out the Voice of the Community, just as previous board members practiced in the bad old days of the good old Baker boys days?
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30116 Jan 23, 2014
Performance Index 2012-2013
The Performance Index measures the test results of every student, not just those who score proficient or higher. There are six levels on the index and districts receive points for every student in each of these levels. The higher the achievement level, the more the points awarded in the district's index. This rewards schools and districts for improving performance.

Ach. Level____% of Students_Points for Level_Points Received
Adv. Plus________0.5__________1.3__ ________0.6
Advanced_______36.0__________1 .2__________43.2
Accelerated_____30.8__________ 1.1__________33.9
Proficient_______25.5_________ _1.0__________25.5
Basic__________5.3__________0. 6__________3.2
Limited__________1.8__________ 0.3__________0.5
Untested_________0.1__________ 0.0__________0.0
__________TOTAL:_106.9

89.1%(106.9 out of 120.0)

A =90.0 - 100.0%
B =80.0 - 89.9%
C =70.0 - 79.9%
D =50.0 - 69.9%
F =0.0 - 49.9%

School Year Performance Index
2010 - 2011_______111.1
2011 - 2012_______110.2
2012 - 2013_______106.9

Notice a trend? How's that CHILDREN'S FIRST budgeting working out for ya!
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30117 Jan 23, 2014
Did You Know wrote:
shutting out the Voice of the Community, just as previous board members practiced in the bad old days of the good old Baker boys days?
Did you know...The Voice of the Community had the chance to speak AND DID at the last election?

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid...
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30118 Jan 23, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Then perhaps we should ask the current members of the board and seek the answer from the horse's mouth.
Waitin' on you for that one. I think there's a BOE meeting coming up...
perspective

Springfield, OH

#30119 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
The alternate reading means putting them into context of other schools around us, but you don't like to do that.
Here's a clue for you. Stop worrying about placing Boro's students in context with neighboring school districts, or for that matter, with peers around the rest of America. If you step back and examine the bigger picture, the lion's share of America's kids are pretty much floating in the same boat with each other. Collectively, this nations kids are lagging behind almost all of the rest of the industrialized world. If we're sincere about our childrens' futures, we've got to be placing their education standards in context with that of their global competition.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/03/21...
perspective

Springfield, OH

#30120 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Performance Index 2012-2013
The Performance Index measures the test results of every student, not just those who score proficient or higher. There are six levels on the index and districts receive points for every student in each of these levels. The higher the achievement level, the more the points awarded in the district's index. This rewards schools and districts for improving performance.
Ach. Level____% of Students_Points for Level_Points Received
Adv. Plus________0.5__________1.3__ ________0.6
Advanced_______36.0__________1 .2__________43.2
Accelerated_____30.8__________ 1.1__________33.9
Proficient_______25.5_________ _1.0__________25.5
Basic__________5.3__________0. 6__________3.2
Limited__________1.8__________ 0.3__________0.5
Untested_________0.1__________ 0.0__________0.0
__________TOTAL:_106.9
89.1%(106.9 out of 120.0)
A =90.0 - 100.0%
B =80.0 - 89.9%
C =70.0 - 79.9%
D =50.0 - 69.9%
F =0.0 - 49.9%
School Year Performance Index
2010 - 2011_______111.1
2011 - 2012_______110.2
2012 - 2013_______106.9
Notice a trend? How's that CHILDREN'S FIRST budgeting working out for ya!
Please explain your point. In what way has the former board's marked improvement in the overall business efficiency been detrimental to student performance in Springboro Community City Schools?

Wait! Wait! Don't tell me!. I know!

You're going to post that teachers and admins who aren't getting everything handed to them on a sparkling platter are going to be miserable, unhappy teachers and admins. And because a certain number of the staff is pissed off, a lot of them will openly pass their frustrations onto Boro's students in the form of increasingly less-than-par instruction methods. Yup! Got 'cha nailed!
Oh Fiddle Dee Dee

Springfield, OH

#30121 Jan 23, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you know...The Voice of the Community had the chance to speak AND DID at the last election?
Keep drinking the Kool-Aid...
The time has come to brew yourself up a STRONG cup of hot tea; toughen yourself up for the tough times ahead! Kool-Aid is for Kids!(Does Ron know he's not in high school any more?)
Did You Know

Springfield, OH

#30122 Jan 23, 2014
Did You Know ..... According to the Boro E News for January 23, 2014, more than $250,000 of school fees are still unpaid AND this directly IMPACTS school operations?

Check out the facts and consequences for students if parents do not pay this fee for their own students by the deadline date of January 31, 2014, on the Springboro Schools website.

Did You Know that last year (2013) when Unpaid fees by Parents of school children were being discussed in the public board meetings that Ron Malone (who was employed as insanely popular SHS principal with the union activists/pro levy lovers) endorsed an UnNecessary May 2013 proposed CCFD fire levy 93% tax increase on every Springboro Family in the Clearcreek/Springboro voting district?

Did You Know that Ron Malone, Charles Anderson, and David Stuckey all three were FOR over-taxing Springboro families the FULL $9.2 million Renewal Levy BEFORE they supported the honest amount needed in Reduced Renewal Levy saving Springboro Families $6.5 million, putting Our Students First while maintaining fiscal integrity within the framework of our Children First Budget?

Did You Know that board appointments will be made at the January 23 public BOE meeting to influential committees; and that most likely the arrogant votes of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey will throw Our Children First and Budget Transparency out of the board room; shutting out the Voice of the Community, just as previous board members
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30123 Jan 23, 2014
perspective wrote:
<quoted text>
Please explain your point. In what way has the former board's marked improvement in the overall business efficiency been detrimental to student performance in Springboro Community City Schools?
Wait! Wait! Don't tell me!. I know!
You're going to post that teachers and admins who aren't getting everything handed to them on a sparkling platter are going to be miserable, unhappy teachers and admins. And because a certain number of the staff is pissed off, a lot of them will openly pass their frustrations onto Boro's students in the form of increasingly less-than-par instruction methods. Yup! Got 'cha nailed!
Actually, I thought the performance index going down year after year shold have been your first clue. You must have graduated from a school system that used Children's First Budgeting....
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30124 Jan 23, 2014
perspective wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's a clue for you. Stop worrying about placing Boro's students in context with neighboring school districts, or for that matter, with peers around the rest of America. If you step back and examine the bigger picture, the lion's share of America's kids are pretty much floating in the same boat with each other. Collectively, this nations kids are lagging behind almost all of the rest of the industrialized world. If we're sincere about our childrens' futures, we've got to be placing their education standards in context with that of their global competition.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/03/21...
How many of those asian countries use charter schools or children's first budgeting? Pretty sure they all have universal health care and teach evolution in the science class.

Oh, and they probably don't go over the "founding fathers intention" too much either.

The US in 2010 spend 21.7% of GDP per capita in 2010 50 countries spend more (asian countries included).

Yet people here still say you can spend less and get a better education. What denial....
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30125 Jan 23, 2014
Oh Fiddle Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
The time has come to brew yourself up a STRONG cup of hot tea; toughen yourself up for the tough times ahead! Kool-Aid is for Kids!(Does Ron know he's not in high school any more?)
Tea party...yea. Great way for Republicans to split the vote amoungst themselves giving the Democrats and easy way to most every seat up for grabs.

How well did the tea party do last election cycle???
The More You Know

Franksville, WI

#30126 Jan 23, 2014
Oh Fiddle Dee Dee wrote:
<quoted text>
The time has come to brew yourself up a STRONG cup of hot tea; toughen yourself up for the tough times ahead! Kool-Aid is for Kids!(Does Ron know he's not in high school any more?)
BOE meetings take place in the H.S.

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