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Boro Alumni

Tipp City, OH

#29449 Nov 24, 2013
SOS to ProLevy Lovers wrote:
<quoted text>
For the good of our schools Athletic program, would you consider
happily contributing to the 300 Athletic Fund to help bail out their bankruptcy? Our athletic director has been "shaming and blaming" the rich people in Springboro who won't pass a levy to fund his elite "million dollar" sport program, and now the school treasurer is asking Taxpayers for a "cash advance" from general fund of about a quarter million dollars. Seems like somebody in the Athletic Boosters board has a practice of living "above their financial means" and now expects that pay to play should be increased on ALL parents, so that the Boosters don't have to trouble themselves with that nasty old "fund raising" business
which should be a priority of raising the funds, BEFORE, they
spend the money. Where's the accountability here for fiscal
integrity?
All Community Taxpayers are already generously contributing our hard earned money to ensure that the children of the Springboro Community receive an excellent education while keeping the costs of that education affordable, by carefully adhering to responsible spending. Now, Wouldn't it be great, if all of our pro-levy lovers, who are in remorse over losing their opportunity to PAY more school taxes than were needed for our quality education business, could just "COME TOGETHER" and pool their resources
that they can afford to pay in additional taxes, and work up some kind of Boro Pride Committee Sports Fund; and just take care of that nasty old quarter of million dollars needed to fix this
athletic fund bankruptcy?
Wouldn't that be great to Stand and Aplaud and Aplaud in front of the TV news cameras in the board room, when this big donation was announced and a big bail-out check was handed to our school treasurer?... now that would be news worth reporting!
I thought we had a great Children's First Budgeting Plan for the last 4 years? Why hasn't the BOE majority kept an eye on this? Didn't they have a clue over the last 4 years that the athletic budget was not on track to be proactive instead of now in a pinch? Several hundreds of thousands off? Oh, that's right. Their attentions have been elsewhere...creationism, far right revisionist history, contracts with people that have NO experience to throw their crony socialism to their buddies, trying to confuse the voters with misinformation on their signs, breaking the by-laws of Robert's Rule of Order during BOE meetings, wanting to "shut down the lunch program" or raise lunch prices by $1.50 (Even though the food service program is $500,000 to the good, because it doesn't fit with the Tea Party agenda? What PhD in Nutrition would want to feed the kids unhealthy meals? Absurd!!)...the list goes on and on. They should have doing their job that they ran on of fiscal responsibility and omitted the political agenda...then they might have been aware of the budget.
Reality Bytes

Springfield, OH

#29450 Nov 24, 2013
Boro Alumni wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought we had a great Children's First Budgeting Plan for the last 4 years? Why hasn't the BOE majority kept an eye on this? Didn't they have a clue over the last 4 years that the athletic budget was not on track to be proactive instead of now in a pinch? Several hundreds of thousands off? Oh, that's right. Their attentions have been elsewhere...creationism, far right revisionist history, contracts with people that have NO experience to throw their crony socialism to their buddies, trying to confuse the voters with misinformation on their signs, breaking the by-laws of Robert's Rule of Order during BOE meetings, wanting to "shut down the lunch program" or raise lunch prices by $1.50 (Even though the food service program is $500,000 to the good, because it doesn't fit with the Tea Party agenda? What PhD in Nutrition would want to feed the kids unhealthy meals? Absurd!!)...the list goes on and on. They should have doing their job that they ran on of fiscal responsibility and omitted the political agenda...then they might have been aware of the budget.
Not A Chance that the Children's First Budgeting's successful
winning agenda is any way responsible for the financial mess that our Athletic Director/Sports Programs are currently facing.

Not A Chance that any of Boro Alumni's SOS (same old stuff) is worth taking time to go over again. This bullying mantra of
spreading FEAR (false evidence appearing real) demonizing
our reform minded board members by those in favor of status quo forever is so old and tiring, most people have just tuned them out so that they can rave and rant and preach FEAR of change to their own choir). Possibly one thing worth mentioning is that
our Children's First Budgeting board members, Jim Rigano
and David Rigano, only came on board in January 2012; And
in less than just TWO years, they have made absolutely, amazingly
awesome achievements in putting Students first while maintaining fiscal integrity, and have accomplished more for our schools classroom education and community sports than ever before done in previous years. Special Thanks are due to Mr. Rigano and Mr. Petroni, for their tireless work and long hours spent reviewing
our pay to play fees, trying to get a fair and balanced "good deal" for All students, parents, school employees, and community taxpayers... and that's no easy task; AND certainly there is no
excuse for the Boro Alumni criticism posted on this blog, from those who obviously are more interested in politics of personal destruction, than they are interested in learning the truth about the athletic funding gap, and why the athletic director is
asking Taxpayers to pay up more of our hard-earned dollars for
kids that want to play sports, because the Athletic Boosters
fundraising that was supposed to pay their bills, just didn't happen, BUT, the Boosters kept spending money they didn't have and just expecting the Taxpaers General Fund to bail out their
Bankruptcy, because they lived beyond their means.
CELEBRATE OUR SUCCESS

Springfield, OH

#29451 Nov 24, 2013
.... in the direction of sustainability!

We Are meeting and exceeding state mandates as well as local expectations. We are building a technology backbone, investing in computers,
curriculum, buses and buildings -- we are putting children first. Most important, we are being honest abut what is needed through 2017!

This is reform at the local level, and this is working together toward sustainability....

...in the direction of LEADERSHIP!

If there is a sense of turbulence in our community, it has been manufactured by those who oppose change, wish to suffocate debates they would lose, and return to the days of endless levies, punitive actions against our citizens, and never ending financial emergencies within the district.

We've built a financial foundation on the principle of fiscal responsibility. We'll contrinue to make changes that make sense; for example, eliminating underutilized courses to fill needs in other areas. We won't continue relationships with service providers that don't provide the best value just because working with them has been past practice.

We'll demand integrity from everyone we work with from boosters to vendors, from students to administrators.

Common sense, ethics and sound financial decisions guide Educate Springboro. The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.

Let's stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our childlren, schools, and community.

Thank You to our current board members Kelly Kohls, Jim Rigano, David Petroni, Don Miller, and Wendy Kull... Special Thanks to Mr. Petry and our school district leaders. Your service to our schools and community is Appreciated!
oh the irony

Springfield, OH

#29452 Nov 25, 2013
Boro Alumni wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought we had a great Children's First Budgeting Plan for the last 4 years? Why hasn't the BOE majority kept an eye on this? Didn't they have a clue over the last 4 years that the athletic budget was not on track to be proactive instead of now in a pinch? Several hundreds of thousands off? Oh, that's right. Their attentions have been elsewhere...creationism, far right revisionist history, contracts with people that have NO experience to throw their crony socialism to their buddies, trying to confuse the voters with misinformation on their signs, breaking the by-laws of Robert's Rule of Order during BOE meetings, wanting to "shut down the lunch program" or raise lunch prices by $1.50 (Even though the food service program is $500,000 to the good, because it doesn't fit with the Tea Party agenda? What PhD in Nutrition would want to feed the kids unhealthy meals? Absurd!!)...the list goes on and on. They should have doing their job that they ran on of fiscal responsibility and omitted the political agenda...then they might have been aware of the budget.
The athletic budget is "several hundreds of thousands off" at this point in time, you say? Does anyone know if Harves is still in lockup? Because "several hundreds of thousands" would be the approximate difference between court-ordered restitution, and the amount of money still owed to the students of this community.
The Record Speaks

Springfield, OH

#29453 Nov 25, 2013
oh the irony wrote:
<quoted text>
The athletic budget is "several hundreds of thousands off" at this point in time, you say? Does anyone know if Harves is still in lockup? Because "several hundreds of thousands" would be the approximate difference between court-ordered restitution, and the amount of money still owed to the students of this community.
In case you did not attend the last board meeting, you can check the school website for the Board of Education meetings agenda
and the recommendation of the Interim Treasurer's Report:

Subject Item 3.2 - Approval to Transfer Subsidy Payment from General Fund to Athletic Fund
Recommended Action: Approval to Transfer Subsidy Payment of $105,000 from General Fund 001 to Athletic Fund 300-901B
(action taken by the board was vote of approval)

Subject Item 3.4 Approval to advance cash to Athletic fund
Recommended Request: Advance $250,000 cash from General Fund
001 to Athletic Fund 300-903B

Special Thanks to our Board Members for asking the tough questions and for their comments and discussions, regarding whether or not to "advance" from taxpayers General Fund, the amount of $250,000 to the bankrupt Athletic Fund;

THANKS TO OUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE LAST MEETING
AND FOR YOUR VOTE TO AMEND THE REQUEST OF $250,000 OF TAXPAYERS MONEY TO YOUR APPROVAL OF $150,000.

Although Taxpayers appreciate the board's action of lowering the advance to the Athletic, most agree that the School Administrators and Board of Education members need to thoroughly review the school districts $1.2 million Athletic Program, and make a fair and balanced decision on extactly How much should ALL Taxpayers have to pay for our Athletic Program, and just how much each individual Sport costs the student to participate so that the parent is then charged the right amount of pay to play fees for their own students, during which time their own students benefit
from engaging in sports activities.

Most community taxpayers BELIEVE our Reform-Minded Children's first budgeting school board members, David Petroni and Jim Rigano, are leading in the direction of FAIRNESS for both our
school community AND our community of taxpayers.

We ALL want the same outcome... a great Athletic Program that is
AFFORDABLE for ALL Students and Their Parents, while maintaining fiscal integrity within the Children's First Budgeting Framework.

Again, Special Thanks are Due to our interim treasurer, Al Porter,
who is doing a S-U-P-E-R job, working as a professional TEAM Member with our Superintendent, Mr. Petrey and his staff, and
our current board members, Kelly Kohls, Jim Rigano, David Petroni, Don Miller, and Wendy Kull.
just wondering

Springfield, OH

#29454 Nov 25, 2013
NABF wrote:
<quoted text>
Jobe and her thugs hang out there frequently.
i feel sorry for Campionis.

Name the nasty thugs that are all union supporters.
I want names.

I know Ed Wade, Gabbard
Malone, Jobe, Stucky, Anderson
I want to know who to ask why they forsake the kids for thir own selfish needs.
A Khatibloo-McClel lan

Miamisburg, OH

#29455 Nov 25, 2013
NABF wrote:
what kind of place is Campioni's ? Heard that the waitresses are instructed to let the pro levy people know when a Kelly Kohls supporter shows up in the place. Well, apparently that place must be a rats nest for Jobe & co. Will now take my business elsewhere.
No idea what you're talking about, but I am curious...do Kelly Kohl's 'supporters' wear banners or otherwise identify themselves as such? If not, how the hell would a handful of high school students know who does/does not support her? Do you think they have a wall of mug shots back in the kitchen they reference - like at the post office? Would that be the "MOST UNWANTED" list?(couldn't resist...sorry)
just wondering

Springfield, OH

#29456 Nov 25, 2013
Oh, I forgot David Bowman, Jason Lewis of Plunderbound,
Stephanie Bindeman, Afsoon McClellen, Mary Johnson, Robinson, Lisa Babb, Tiffany Carlisle, Troy Holtry, Debbie Christian,
These are despicable people that call themselves Community advocates, and Christians, when what they are is the "Peoples" reps. Ya know of the Peoples republic of China, communists acting like the chosen ones to lead the cause of righteousness. Run, run away from these evil people the spew venom. Sticky yellow goo that you can't wash off and it is foul.
A Khatibloo-McClel lan

Miamisburg, OH

#29457 Nov 25, 2013
SOS to ProLevy Lovers wrote:
<quoted text>
For the good of our schools Athletic program, would you consider
happily contributing to the 300 Athletic Fund to help bail out their bankruptcy? Our athletic director has been "shaming and blaming" the rich people in Springboro who won't pass a levy to fund his elite "million dollar" sport program, and now the school treasurer is asking Taxpayers for a "cash advance" from general fund of about a quarter million dollars. Seems like somebody in the Athletic Boosters board has a practice of living "above their financial means" and now expects that pay to play should be increased on ALL parents, so that the Boosters don't have to trouble themselves with that nasty old "fund raising" business
which should be a priority of raising the funds, BEFORE, they
spend the money. Where's the accountability here for fiscal
integrity?


All Community Taxpayers are already generously contributing our hard earned money to ensure that the children of the Springboro Community receive an excellent education while keeping the costs of that education affordable, by carefully adhering to responsible spending. Now, Wouldn't it be great, if all of our pro-levy lovers, who are in remorse over losing their opportunity to PAY more school taxes than were needed for our quality education business, could just "COME TOGETHER" and pool their resources
that they can afford to pay in additional taxes, and work up some kind of Boro Pride Committee Sports Fund; and just take care of that nasty old quarter of million dollars needed to fix this
athletic fund bankruptcy?
Wouldn't that be great to Stand and Aplaud and Aplaud in front of the TV news cameras in the board room, when this big donation was announced and a big bail-out check was handed to our school treasurer?... now that would be news worth reporting!
To the individual who posted the above: Speak not for you know not of which you speak.
Ooops - I'll keep it simple. You have so many mixed up pieces of information in your post, I don't even know where to start correcting you. And sadly, I fear, even with correction you will still fail to understand.
respect

Springfield, OH

#29458 Nov 25, 2013
Glass Houses wrote:
<quoted text>
But wait, you all wanted his expertise at Central Office, remember? Oh, that's write, KPR was LYING to the community when they said that.
So which is it, was Ron Malone a poor employee or are Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano liars?
I watched the whole charade and I witnessed people trying to save his reputation. A man who sleeps the day away in his office, does nothing for years to help students achieve, ran an out of control building, and the board was trying to get kids an education while not destroying the Malone legacy of smiles and cheer. It appears to me they were being very very generous. My confidence is with them now not the Malone kool-aid drinking supporters. Now they have to be feeling dooped.
A Khatibloo-McClel lan

Miamisburg, OH

#29459 Nov 25, 2013
just wondering wrote:
Oh, I forgot David Bowman, Jason Lewis of Plunderbound,
Stephanie Bindeman, Afsoon McClellen, Mary Johnson, Robinson, Lisa Babb, Tiffany Carlisle, Troy Holtry, Debbie Christian,
These are despicable people that call themselves Community advocates, and Christians, when what they are is the "Peoples" reps. Ya know of the Peoples republic of China, communists acting like the chosen ones to lead the cause of righteousness. Run, run away from these evil people the spew venom. Sticky yellow goo that you can't wash off and it is foul.
Hey dumbass, I thought we'd already established, I'm not Christian. And if you're going to put my name in your post, at least spell it correctly. Jeesh. If you want to give me your name, I'll make sure to spell it correctly in my next post.
hell no I wont pay PtP

Springfield, OH

#29461 Nov 25, 2013
The Record Speaks wrote:
<quoted text>
Although Taxpayers appreciate the board's action of lowering the advance to the Athletic, most agree that the School Administrators and Board of Education members need to thoroughly review the school districts $1.2 million Athletic Program, and make a fair and balanced decision on extactly How much should ALL Taxpayers have to pay for our Athletic Program, and just how much each individual Sport costs the student to participate so that the parent is then charged the right amount of pay to play fees for their own students, during which time their own students benefit
from engaging in sports activities.
When it comes to sports in public schools, public tax dollars should be used for infrastructure, instructors and miscellaneous supplies needed to support physical education classes, which ALL students are required to take at different points during K-12.

Students are not required to join football, basketball, golf, soccer, softball or lacrosse teams. Students are not required to participate in band. Because such team sports, band (etc) are voluntary, public tax dollars SHOULD NEVER BE used in order to subsidize them. This is not the responsibility of Mr. & Mrs. Joe Springboro. Rather than taking aim at each and every taxpayer, perhaps it is time to re-examine pay-to-participate fee levels charged to PARENTS of students who are directly involved in these activities.
A Khatibloo-McClel lan

Miamisburg, OH

#29462 Nov 25, 2013
Come Grow With Us wrote:
<quoted text>
Kudos to you! A thankful heart is a happy heart...
See, you are already growing in OUR BELIEFS in supporting the amount of necessary taxation required to do the job of K-12
quality education correctly!
Thanks to Educate Springboro, providing accurate information
putting our Students First while maintaining fiscal integrity,
FRESH ideas have allowed our district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO new money required! Hooray for Us!
We Are Our Way...
Come grow with us... in the direction of Excellence!
As the status quo placed awards on the school walls, many assumed that all was well INSIDE those walls. BUT the awards only measure the PAST, and the standards are CHANGING!
OUR SCHOOLS perform well by the MINIMUM STATE STANDARDS, but
no matter how you slice it, "PROFICIENT" is Failing.
For example, the PROFICIENT standard for the 8th grade math Ohio Achievement Assessment (OAA) ranges from 35%- 59%. PROFICIENT
is not enough. The status quo has not been enough. The time is now to bring forward new ways of evaluating our children that no longer rely upon grading on a curve to obtain the desired results. Tougher, realistic standards UPSET the status quo,
but inflated standards rob our children of true achievement and potential.
WE BELIEVE in order to deliver the highest level of education for ALL our students, we MUST raise the bar well past the state minimums and strive to challenge our children, parents, and staff to reach higher. We can and must do better, Our children's future depends on our actions today... in the direction of LEADERSHIP!
Common sense, ethics and sound financial decisions guide
Educate Springboro. The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Welcome Aboard to our board members-elect Mr. Anderson, Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey...Please join us in support of the progress made by our current board in the last two years, and let's stay on this new course and move together in the directions of professional
TEAM leadership for our children, our schools and our community!
Hey Genius - "...directions of professional TEAM leadership...." Leadership is not a TEAM sport. And if it's "directions" (plural) how is that possible? Shouldn't it just be a single direction - that of putting our children first? I'm pretty sure that's all I've heard on this forum and by various & sundry BOE members in the past couple years - ad nauseam. As if saying it at every opportunity makes it so. Puh...lease.
And the People Say AMEN

Springfield, OH

#29463 Nov 25, 2013
hell no I wont pay PtP wrote:
<quoted text>
When it comes to sports in public schools, public tax dollars should be used for infrastructure, instructors and miscellaneous supplies needed to support physical education classes, which ALL students are required to take at different points during K-12.
Students are not required to join football, basketball, golf, soccer, softball or lacrosse teams. Students are not required to participate in band. Because such team sports, band (etc) are voluntary, public tax dollars SHOULD NEVER BE used in order to subsidize them. This is not the responsibility of Mr. & Mrs. Joe Springboro. Rather than taking aim at each and every taxpayer, perhaps it is time to re-examine pay-to-participate fee levels charged to PARENTS of students who are directly involved in these activities.
Totally Agree! Nothing is Free in America, including Springboro!
What's up with all these greedy hostile blah, blah, blah bully-parents for sure landing like angry vultures in zip code 45066.
coming to Springboro for the "free schools" then strutting around town demanding that all of the rich people that don't want to support their children's education (to the level that the school yard bullies want to become accustomed) should "get out of town?"
Did You Not Know

Springfield, OH

#29464 Nov 25, 2013
A Khatibloo-McClellan wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Genius - "...directions of professional TEAM leadership...." Leadership is not a TEAM sport. And if it's "directions" (plural) how is that possible? Shouldn't it just be a single direction - that of putting our children first? I'm pretty sure that's all I've heard on this forum and by various & sundry BOE members in the past couple years - ad nauseam. As if saying it at every opportunity makes it so. Puh...lease.
All things ARE possible with God!
May God Bless You and Your Family!
Happy Thanksgiving!
Just Because

Springfield, OH

#29465 Nov 25, 2013
just wondering wrote:
<quoted text>
i feel sorry for Campionis.
Name the nasty thugs that are all union supporters.
I want names.
I know Ed Wade, Gabbard
Malone, Jobe, Stucky, Anderson
I want to know who to ask why they forsake the kids for thir own selfish needs.
"They" forsake the kids for their own selfish needs, just because
that's the way it's always been done... until 2010 when just one Springboro parent/BOE member, with a broader reform-minded VISION came on board; shining the light into the dark tunnel vision of the SHS union shop run by princiPAL Ron, and the Sports Theft ring run by the Boosters board officers! Those dirty rats can scamper all over town squelling like stuck pigs demonizing our good Springboro citizens who have now exposed their "low status quo business as usual" failed practices of the past, but neither Ron Malone nor the Athletic Boosters Board can HIDE from the TRUTH, no matter how much the truth hurts their boro pride, no matter how many pity parties they throw in protests to "overthrow" common sense leadership practices and "re-instate" Ron Malone status quo.
WOW

Springfield, OH

#29466 Nov 25, 2013
A Khatibloo-McClellan wrote:
<quoted text>
To the individual who posted the above: Speak not for you know not of which you speak.
Ooops - I'll keep it simple. You have so many mixed up pieces of information in your post, I don't even know where to start correcting you. And sadly, I fear, even with correction you will still fail to understand.
Wow! Why Oh Why can't we all keep it simple...It's so easy
to understand.......those Three Little Words that says it
all.... NO NEW TAXES!
Come Grow With Us

Springfield, OH

#29467 Nov 25, 2013
A Khatibloo-McClellan wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey Genius - "...directions of professional TEAM leadership...." Leadership is not a TEAM sport. And if it's "directions" (plural) how is that possible? Shouldn't it just be a single direction - that of putting our children first? I'm pretty sure that's all I've heard on this forum and by various & sundry BOE members in the past couple years - ad nauseam. As if saying it at every opportunity makes it so. Puh...lease.
...in the direction of OPPORTUNITY

When we combine common sense spending with the strong performances of our schools, we provide OPPIRTUNITIES for everyone -- OUR students, OUR teachers, OUR families, and OUR community.

From the district's aging computers, buses, and buildings to new Common Core curriculum and rising expectations with NEW standards
testing, evaluation systems, the status quo is not equipped to meet the challenges that our school district faces. Educate Springboro reaches past the status quo. As we examine district operations and use achievement data, we are creating opportunity, directing more resources to students, and more tools to teachers.

Fresh ideas have allowed our school district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO NEW MONEY required! We will continue to challenge the status quo where need be... and that's a good thing!
Dooies

Mansfield, OH

#29468 Nov 25, 2013
Anyone else hear that ABC WDTN channel 22 is doing some investigative reporting tonight on a growing problem in our communities. I'm wondering if Debbie Christman will be part of the feature. She sure has their number. Curious now if they finally have hers. Lol

Tonight at 11 after Castle. Channel 22.
A Khatibloo-McClel lan

Miamisburg, OH

#29469 Nov 25, 2013
Did You Not Know wrote:
<quoted text>
All things ARE possible with God!
May God Bless You and Your Family!
Happy Thanksgiving!
OK - I'm actually being serious...what's with the random capitalization of words in these posts? I'm befuddled. And so we're clear, I do believe all things are possible with God, who is, I think we would agree, the ultimate leader. I'm pretty sure neither God, nor Allah, nor Jesus, nor Buddah, nor any other true leader was considered a leader because they were part of a "TEAM". Leadership is NOT a team effort. Leadership is individually earned & exercised. If you'd like to demonstrate through one fact driven scenario a situation in which leadership was a "team" event, then I will recant.

And with that - Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

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