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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28964 Nov 8, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT B/V WON?
I believe the actions taken by electing in MSA in a LANDSLIDE speaks volumes toward what direction the voters want to take.
Taxaying Citizen wrote:
<quoted text>

WE BELIEVE over taxation of the taxpayers is wrong!

WE BELIEVE in supporting the amount of necessary taxation required to do the job correctly.

WE BELIEVE that excess tax money in any government body tends to inspire creative ways to spend that money.

WE BELIEVE transparency, from budgeting to policy formulation to meetings, leads to good governance in all levels of government.

Which one of these beliefs do you think the majority of Springboro citizens do not agree?
Lerxst

Springfield, OH

#28965 Nov 8, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
You always assume it was a popularity contest. I strongly disagree. It was a vote against what is currently going on.
<quoted text>
So, this was a vote against?:

-$5M+ surplus
- new textbooks
- reduced pay to play
- reduced levy
- school maintenance
- return of busing
- higher educational standards
- PSEO
- accountability

I can keep going, but I think you get the picture. So yeah, this was classic case of a election based on popularity. Of course the current board's trial balloon stunts regarding religion certainly didn't help. But, as I previously said that was never going to happen. Ever. The SCOTUS has already seen to it. So, that was not enough for me to discount all the improvements we have seen.

If you think that reversing course is the answer that's fine. Obviously, a large voter base agrees with you. As for me I'm at a loss how anyone can look at the track record of the last few years and not want to continue on with it. Voting has consequences.
Performance Review

Springfield, OH

#28966 Nov 8, 2013
Newly-elected board representative, Ron Malone, continued his "vote for revenge" against Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners at the Springboro School Board business meeting last night; bringing in the TV news crew and his "gotcha" supporters to, once again, demonize
Kelly Kohls' and her judgement on the MLA contract proposal.
What is it about these Springboro men, including
Ron Malone and Doug Weideman, whose self-importance leadership can only be upgraded by bloviatig in public meetings and on this Topix blog, by "degrading" this Springboro parent, Kelly Kohls?
Performance Review

Springfield, OH

#28967 Nov 8, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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I believe that the voters motivated to vote in this election were the pro levy crowd and that carried the day for MSA.
The other side of the fence did not vote, why should they? The levy was going to pass, it was going to save homeowners money whether it passed or not, what was to get out of bed for that day?
Taxpayers won by virtue of the circumstances, however the election went, their taxes were going down.
MSA did a good job getting the levy supporters out, BV did not.
Paid for by private citizen, Doug Weideman, carried the day for the MSA team, by continuing to bully the insanely popular Ron Malone who has been a high school princiPAL for 13 years.

Mr. Weideman's expensive campaign ads kept the spotlight on
himwelf and the WEAKNESSES of Mr. Malone, which were already well known by Mr.Malones fans AND thoroughly embraced community-wide.

David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn had no campaign, no campaing manager, and no money to plan a Strategy to get themselves known to voters, between the September "coming out" as parents representing parents and the November 5th election.

The David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn campaign, THE PEOPLE'S CAMPAIGN,
was botched from the beginning by Doug Weideman's false accusations against Kelly Kohls, and Doug Weideman's personal campaign to DUMBDOWN the Bitner/Vaughn campaign for school board election.

Doug Weideman only wanted ONE elected, Charles Anderson, and that is what the Bitner/Vaughn campaign was fought for and the campaign for Charles Anderson was WON. Now, Mr.Weideman's task is to get in that board room and pressure Charles Anderson to distance himself from the Educators Representing Educators BOE members, Mr.Malone and Mr.Stuckey, and PUSH him closer to the Children's First reform minded agenda of our current board.

Bring on the Controversary... it's going to be a very big show
and all us taxpayers have already pre-paid our taxes and have
"season tickets" to come to our "pre-arranged" board meetings and review the upcoming performances.

Isn't it fun being the wealthiest, most educated, "laughing stock" school district of them all?
ugly out there

Springfield, OH

#28969 Nov 8, 2013
As The Springboro housewives returns.

Lisa Jo Brovont Babb I've already done my research on this group and I have definite concerns as to why we'd spend this kind of money rather than hiring a new treasurer to work full time and having them assess the situation. It just doesn't make sense. Tonight will be interesting.
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Heather Klasing Crabtree presented in work session on this. The video is up on the school site.
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Debbie Leach Christian Thank you Lisa Jo Brovont Babb. So many of us will miss most of this meeting due to Sports Awards. Timing is everything
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Laura Niehaus Windholtz Americans for Prosperity is linked to privitizing public schools, vouchers (they are now calling opportunity scholarships) and tea party! Huge red flag!!
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Jonna Chrisman Great!
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Leslie Grady Dennis has conferences tonight. I wondered how much havoc they would try to cause before January
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Debbie Leach Christian You can bet that they planned this for this night when so many of us cannot attend. I'm not at all surprised.
about an hour ago Like 2..
Kathy Kofron Five points has conferences also. These guys are unbelievable.
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Mary Landers Johnson Wonder where they plan on meeting? Every big room at the HS will be taken with teams. Dorks!
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Debbie Leach Christian J
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Stephanie Young Bindemann
Springboro moves past school election www.mydaytondailynews.com The Springboro school board meets tonight, secure about having enough money to run the district for the next five years, but faced with the possibility of division on the board in January..
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Lisa Babb "I have definite concerns about this group". She is referring to Americans for Prosperity- look them up.
I thought Lisa Babb was a Christian- why does she oppose Americans for Prosperity, a Christian pro American, pro liberty and freedom group?? She does not like Americans to have Prosperity? I see a wolf in sheep's clothing. The Bible talks about this type. I don't see our friend Tiffy here but the regular cast of characters are here.
pound something

Springfield, OH

#28970 Nov 8, 2013
poundsand wrote:
First God created idiots," wrote Mark Twain. "That was for practice. Then he created school boards."
Funny especially this new one. In January we see the idiots work over the citizens of Springboro, give to the rich (district employees) and take from the poor and the children like they did in the past. We have proof that this is fact- look at the High School TAV report and the ESC audit of our high school. Screw the kids my peeps need a new car.
pound something

Springfield, OH

#28971 Nov 8, 2013
Get over yourselves wrote:
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No extremism here and certainly no deceit. I gladly admit to disrespect because that's exactly what those who support Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano have earned.
Yes, a laughing stock. Did you not see any of the very negative national coverage? Wow, pay attention.
My rudeness is not intended to be laughable; it's simply deserved.
No, I'm not done. Eventually, those who are bullied bully right back. Yes, I guess you've made me stoop to your level.
Boy, you blowhards (yes, I said it again and I still mean it) can dish it out, but you sure can't take it!
Hello are you one of those soap opera stars Housewives of Springboro? Can I get your autograph for my bird cage?
R U Sure

Springfield, OH

#28972 Nov 8, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
You always assume it was a popularity contest. I strongly disagree. It was a vote against what is currently going on.
<quoted text>
...aw, come on now! Between napping and keeping Mr. Maney and his staff happy, do you really expect that the tunnel vision of the
MSA team really care about "what is currently going on" in
our children's classrooms?

Are you now telling us it was Principal Ron's Kids who were the ones which were lying in the March 2012 "re-instate Ron Malone"
protest?

MSA all the Way...? It's for keeping our union president and his staff HAPPY the old outdated Ron Malone status quo way!
Boro Future Bright

Springfield, OH

#28973 Nov 8, 2013
pound something wrote:
<quoted text>
Funny especially this new one. In January we see the idiots work over the citizens of Springboro, give to the rich (district employees) and take from the poor and the children like they did in the past. We have proof that this is fact- look at the High School TAV report and the ESC audit of our high school. Screw the kids my peeps need a new car.
Are you talking about January 2014, when the TWO retired
status quo "educators representing educators" Ron Malone and David Stuckey, come on board with the newly elected community business man, Charles Anderson?
It's true that Charles Anderson was elected at the Top of the leader board; but word about town is buzzing that our new BOE
member, Charles Anderson, is more of a middle of the road leader;
you know the type, just checking things out about the goings on in the board room, and then just going along to get along, just so that he can escape the wrath of Scary Sarah and her evil ones, who ALL share the TOP of the leader board in the cult-like unionism flock of followers.

Parents in this school district should be reminded that ONLY our involvement in our children's classroom education can save our children from the mean-spirited, self-serving indoctrination of unionism PUSHED down the throats of OUR children by a union teacher in every classroom.

Parents in this school district should be reminded that January 2014 is the TIME to get to our BOE meetings and take back OUR Children's First reform minded school district agenda!
Children First Budgeting Works!

And we only need ONE board member to gain a Children's First majority... and we have already WON the ONE in the middle...
It's for our children, our schools, and our community!

BORO FUTURE BRIGHT LOOKS PRETTY OPTIMISTIC....sunny side up.
Hammer Out Justice

Springfield, OH

#28974 Nov 8, 2013
Remember the MSA campaign flyer received in the mail telling us "It's simple. The Way Forward is Clear."

Well now that Anderson, Malone, and Stuckey are
elected, their campaign flyer pledges to:

Promote solidarity....

Redefine the role of a school board member...

People in this community should WAKE UP and read between the lines, and beware this message that is neither simple, nor clear, just scary...

"Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them."
-Frederick Douglass
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28975 Nov 8, 2013
Hmm, pay attention Weaselman. I said we were a laughing stock, not that the nation was "awaiting with rapt attention the latest results of the school board meeting..." But I DID hear from friends in Texas and Virginia when we were making national headlines, so it was definitely out there. We were laughed at - but it was that awkward thank-god-it's-not-us kind of laughter. We were undeniably a REGIONAL laughing stock, so much so that communities used us in their campaigns: "Don't let us become a Springboro." Now THAT'S embarrassing.

Bully is the most fitting term. You and your crazies try to push people around. No more. I do not have a problem in the least with people with differing opinions than me, but YOU seem to. You can't even get it through your oh-so-thick skull that the community of Springboro wants nothing to do with you or your agenda anymore. You come up with fabricated reasons and faulty logic to explain why you got your butts handed to you. Bottom line: people no longer agree with you and think you're basically insane.
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
You do know that people in Phoenix,AZ are NOT awaiting with rapt attention the results of the latest Springboro board meeting, nor are those in Columbus, Ga or Duluth, MN, nor Tacoma, WA., etc, etc, etc,
Bullies, is that the new hate word du jour? It seems to be all the rage with people who are not used to dealing with reality in this area. If someone expresses an opinion or facts not to your liking, is that person a bully?
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28976 Nov 8, 2013
By the way, Petroni and Rigano will be sent packing soon!
write this down

Springfield, OH

#28977 Nov 8, 2013
Hammer Out Justice wrote:
Remember the MSA campaign flyer received in the mail telling us "It's simple. The Way Forward is Clear."
Well now that Anderson, Malone, and Stuckey are
elected, their campaign flyer pledges to:
Promote solidarity....
Redefine the role of a school board member...
Beginning Jan 2014, MSA as board majority are going to "redefine the role of school board member" to fall in line with Ohio School Board Association. OSBA believes school board members, once elected, should immediately heed to the agenda of the local teachers union.

One of the first things MSA will do in 2014 is figure out how to get Todd Petrey out of his contract. Then they'll go hire a superintendent just like Dr. Baker so they can repeat the tax and spend dog and pony shows of the past. Don't be suprised if about a year from now we see Baker back as superintendent.
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28978 Nov 8, 2013
Good to know that people on your "side of the fence" are so apathetic. Didn't even bother to vote, huh? What, they didn't care about this pivotal school board election? Well, that's a damn shame. Is it possible - just possible - that people have realized that your "side of the fence" is full of dog crap? Is it possible that your support is dwindling and dwindling significantly? Is it possible that many of your "supporters" no longer buy in to what you stand for? If people believed in the Kohls, Petroni, Rigano direction they would have shown up to make sure it was maintained through Bitner and Vaughn. Keep making up reasons why you lost and lost HUGE.
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe that the voters motivated to vote in this election were the pro levy crowd and that carried the day for MSA.
The other side of the fence did not vote, why should they? The levy was going to pass, it was going to save homeowners money whether it passed or not, what was to get out of bed for that day?
Taxpayers won by virtue of the circumstances, however the election went, their taxes were going down.
MSA did a good job getting the levy supporters out, BV did not.
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28979 Nov 8, 2013
pound something wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello are you one of those soap opera stars Housewives of Springboro? Can I get your autograph for my bird cage?
Wow, um, good one?
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28980 Nov 8, 2013
ugly out there wrote:
As The Springboro housewives returns.
Lisa Jo Brovont Babb I've already done my research on this group and I have definite concerns as to why we'd spend this kind of money rather than hiring a new treasurer to work full time and having them assess the situation. It just doesn't make sense. Tonight will be interesting.
about an hour ago via mobile Like 3..
Heather Klasing Crabtree presented in work session on this. The video is up on the school site.
about an hour ago via mobile Like..
Debbie Leach Christian Thank you Lisa Jo Brovont Babb. So many of us will miss most of this meeting due to Sports Awards. Timing is everything
about an hour ago Like 1..
Laura Niehaus Windholtz Americans for Prosperity is linked to privitizing public schools, vouchers (they are now calling opportunity scholarships) and tea party! Huge red flag!!
about an hour ago Like 4..
Jonna Chrisman Great!
about an hour ago Like..
Leslie Grady Dennis has conferences tonight. I wondered how much havoc they would try to cause before January
about an hour ago via mobile Like 1..
Debbie Leach Christian You can bet that they planned this for this night when so many of us cannot attend. I'm not at all surprised.
about an hour ago Like 2..
Kathy Kofron Five points has conferences also. These guys are unbelievable.
about an hour ago Like 1..
Mary Landers Johnson Wonder where they plan on meeting? Every big room at the HS will be taken with teams. Dorks!
35 minutes ago Like..
Debbie Leach Christian J
35 minutes ago Like..
Write a comment... Options.
Stephanie Young Bindemann
Springboro moves past school election www.mydaytondailynews.com The Springboro school board meets tonight, secure about having enough money to run the district for the next five years, but faced with the possibility of division on the board in January..
Like Follow Post Share about an hour ago.
Melanie Plant Lowe likes this..
Lisa Babb "I have definite concerns about this group". She is referring to Americans for Prosperity- look them up.
I thought Lisa Babb was a Christian- why does she oppose Americans for Prosperity, a Christian pro American, pro liberty and freedom group?? She does not like Americans to have Prosperity? I see a wolf in sheep's clothing. The Bible talks about this type. I don't see our friend Tiffy here but the regular cast of characters are here.
Why was this worth posting? Nothing major here. Oh, and I would suspect that Ms. Babb simply does not support crazy people, whether they're Christian or not.
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28981 Nov 8, 2013
write this down wrote:
<quoted text>
Beginning Jan 2014, MSA as board majority are going to "redefine the role of school board member" to fall in line with Ohio School Board Association. OSBA believes school board members, once elected, should immediately heed to the agenda of the local teachers union.
One of the first things MSA will do in 2014 is figure out how to get Todd Petrey out of his contract. Then they'll go hire a superintendent just like Dr. Baker so they can repeat the tax and spend dog and pony shows of the past. Don't be suprised if about a year from now we see Baker back as superintendent.
Why do you keep bringing up Baker? Weird. And I agree, they will try to get rid of Petrey (as they should since he was a puppet of KPR.)
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28982 Nov 8, 2013
Get over yourselves wrote:
Hmm, pay attention Weaselman. I said we were a laughing stock, not that the nation was "awaiting with rapt attention the latest results of the school board meeting..." But I DID hear from friends in Texas and Virginia when we were making national headlines, so it was definitely out there. We were laughed at - but it was that awkward thank-god-it's-not-us kind of laughter. We were undeniably a REGIONAL laughing stock, so much so that communities used us in their campaigns: "Don't let us become a Springboro." Now THAT'S embarrassing.
Bully is the most fitting term. You and your crazies try to push people around. No more. I do not have a problem in the least with people with differing opinions than me, but YOU seem to. You can't even get it through your oh-so-thick skull that the community of Springboro wants nothing to do with you or your agenda anymore. You come up with fabricated reasons and faulty logic to explain why you got your butts handed to you. Bottom line: people no longer agree with you and think you're basically insane.
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Regionally I am sure they were laughing at us for having a balanced budget, needs met, infrastructure under repair, an expansive technology plan that is scalable into the future, a surplus of funds, a renewal levy that asked for less money because we had enough in the system already, and $2.5 million earmarked for textbooks that is still available to meet its goal.

Yes, that must be worth quite a chuckle to those struggling to meet even a fraction of those goals.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28983 Nov 8, 2013
Performance Review wrote:
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was botched from the beginning by Doug Weideman's false accusations against Kelly Kohls,
Which of your accusations do you consider false Ms. Kohls?
Get over yourselves

Springboro, OH

#28984 Nov 8, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Regionally I am sure they were laughing at us for having a balanced budget, needs met, infrastructure under repair, an expansive technology plan that is scalable into the future, a surplus of funds, a renewal levy that asked for less money because we had enough in the system already, and $2.5 million earmarked for textbooks that is still available to meet its goal.
Yes, that must be worth quite a chuckle to those struggling to meet even a fraction of those goals.
They were laughing at the creationism nonsense, the charter school discussion, glaring conflicts of interest, etc. It's all good, though. With the majority now being more moderate, we will no longer be a topic of conversation. It will be nice to have a board that TRULY puts the kids first!

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