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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Non Partisan Voter

Akron, OH

#27221 Sep 7, 2013
Preparing our students to be digital learners as we dedicate $1.1 million to bring our infrastructure up to date, go wireless in every classroom, and replace 1,100 of the district's aging computers. Our classrooms will be equipped for the new online state tests in 2014. Computers will not be a lonely station in the corner of the classroom. With this inverstment, technology will be integrated into instruction, problem-solving and learning.....

Springboro Schools Expect More, Achieve More....

There is no place in the busy schedule of our highly paid professional educators work duties for "problem-solving" for their students what to wear to school! How silly that the school puts so much emphasis on teaching "critical thinking skills" and then do not allow high school students to exercise their own creativity in thinking about what to wear!

lol........High School principal says.....
I have received several emails regarding dress code and yoga pants. There is a proper way to wear yoga pants and that is to have a pair of appropriate length shorts or an appropriate length skirt over top the pants. Long sweaters covering a girl’s posterior just as tightly as the yoga pants are still inappropriate. Girls wearing skirts and shorts are responsible for ensuring that the length of the skirt or shorts is three inches below the fingertips when the girl’s arms are at her sides.
Non Partisan Voter

Akron, OH

#27222 Sep 7, 2013
partisan wrote:
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you haven't answered my question...:(
And why should I? As an independent thinker, never collectively, I treasure the privilege of my RIGHT to vote, not my REQUIREMENT.
Non Partisan Voter

Akron, OH

#27223 Sep 7, 2013
lol........High School principal says.....
I have received several emails regarding dress code and yoga pants. There is a proper way to wear yoga pants and that is to have a pair of appropriate length shorts or an appropriate length skirt over top the pants. Long sweaters covering a girl’s posterior just as tightly as the yoga pants are still inappropriate. Girls wearing skirts and shorts are responsible for ensuring that the length of the skirt or shorts is three inches below the fingertips when the girl’s arms are at her sides.
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Here's the irony of professional educators in our government schools micro- managing every decision
for which parents and children should take responsibility (from what the student wears to school to what the student donates to charity)...

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Non Partisan Voter

Akron, OH

#27224 Sep 7, 2013
partisan wrote:
is there ANYONE worth voting for on the ballot for school board ???? I will not vote for Malone, Stuckey, Anderson...and Babb did me a favor by dropping out.
You and I disagree that Babb did you a favor ...
Babb did Ron Malone a favor by stepping down to allow him to have the votes that Babb would have pulled from Malone's threesome.
That's the thing about the bottom line of collective thinkers who never raise the bar -- they just hunker down and protect status quo -- and someone always has to sacrifice, individually, for the collective business as usual to survive.
Again, I will not vote for a collective threesome of SEA union
rubber stamps.
partisan

Xenia, OH

#27225 Sep 7, 2013
Non Partisan Voter wrote:
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And why should I? As an independent thinker, never collectively, I treasure the privilege of my RIGHT to vote, not my REQUIREMENT.
good grief...what a lame answer !
Tee Hee Hee

Akron, OH

#27226 Sep 7, 2013
partisan wrote:
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good grief...what a lame answer !
Typical "partisan" response!-- If an independent thinker does not "parrot" back what a partisan is thinking, then the partisan thinks the independent thinker response is "lame!" Where's the respect for "both sides?"
partisan

Xenia, OH

#27227 Sep 7, 2013
Tee Hee Hee wrote:
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Typical "partisan" response!-- If an independent thinker does not "parrot" back what a partisan is thinking, then the partisan thinks the independent thinker response is "lame!" Where's the respect for "both sides?"
the least you can do non-partisan is to use your first alias instead of switching id's...that is more than lame. wasn't asking for your maiden name...was asking a general question that you got your panties in a bind over.
Tee Hee Hee

Akron, OH

#27228 Sep 7, 2013
partisan wrote:
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the least you can do non-partisan is to use your first alias instead of switching id's...that is more than lame. wasn't asking for your maiden name...was asking a general question that you got your panties in a bind over.
Just jumped into that partisan/non-partisan "general" question there -- just gave me a chuckle -- and the least I could do was pass a long a chuckle or two to all you uptight partisan/non-partisan ones! Love Y'all!
Stay Focused

Akron, OH

#27229 Sep 7, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
Questions that beg answers after reading what professional educators who audited our program of studies at the high school reported.
What was Mr. Malone doing with his curriculum?
Just 13% of his students were in A/P classes? LESS than 2% were enrolled in PSEO?
That amounts to LESS than 1 child in 7 getting a rigorous course of study.
This was as good as Mr. Malone could produce, 1 out of 7 students getting a real education?
HIgh Schools That Work Ohio Regions
Technical Assistance Visit Report
Springboro High School, Springboro, Ohio
December 14-15, 2010
This report presents findings of a High Schools That Work (HSTW) Technical Assistance Visit (TAV) to Springboro High School (SHS), Springboro, Ohio, on December 14-15, 2010. It describes major goals facing administrators, faculty and students in achieving the HSTW Goals, Key Practices and Key Conditions to implement the HSTW school improvement design.
For each TAV goal, the report provides the school with recommended action steps and resources for HSTW Key Practices and/or state/federal accountability targets selected by the school or the TAV Team to close achievement gaps and increase student achievement.
The report reflects the limitations of a two-day visit to assess all efforts under way to improve the academic achievement of all students. HSTW Ohio Regions and the Ohio Department of Education, in collaboration with the Southern Regional Education Board (SREB), require a TAV as part of the overall HSTW school improvement process.
Overriding Goal: Close the achievement gaps and raise student achievement in meeting state, federal and HSTW targets by 2014. To achieve this goal, the school must continue to create a culture of high expectations and provide extra help.
Goal 1: Require all students to complete rigorous middle and high school courses that meet the Ohio Core/HSTW-upgraded academic core and concentrations (HSTW-recommended curriculum), align to Ohio/national standards, and focus on standards-based instruction at the proficient and advanced levels.
Goal 2: Engage students in their learning through relevant, student-centered instructional strategies resulting in a deeper understanding and higher demonstrated achievement of standards.
Goal 3: Establish a comprehensive guidance and advisement system that involves students and parents, including strong academic transitions for successful completion of middle school, high school, postsecondary education, and careers.
Goal 4: Strengthen a seamless, continuous improvement process through strong leadership, actively involved school improvement teams, effective use of data, and aligned professional development.
Springboro High School (SHS) is a suburban, comprehensive high school located in southwest Ohio. SHS joined the HSTW network in 2002. Since 2003, the school has received a HSTW state grant. The school received an initial TAV in March 2004 and a TRV in February 2007. SHS administered its first HSTW Assessment in 2004. They receive middle school students from Springboro Junior High, an MMGW site since 2003.
SHS operates on a seven-period day schedule of 50 minutes per class.
The school offers 12 Advanced Placement (AP) courses and five honors courses.(Thirteen percent are enrolled in AP courses.)
LESS than two percent (24 students) participate in Post Secondary Education Options (PSEO) at Miami University – Middletown, Sinclair Community College and Wright State University.
SHS does not offer other dual credit programs.(College and High School credits earned at the same time)
To graduate, a student must earn 21 credits and pass the Ohio Graduation Tests (OGT).
This year, six percent (91 students) of students enrolled in Warren County Career Center (WCCC). These students are not all enrolled in career-technical (C-T) concentrations. Some are in the Teacher Academy and/or the Senior Internship program.
.. 1 out of 7 students getting a real education?
reality

Cleveland, OH

#27230 Sep 8, 2013
Stay Focused wrote:
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.. 1 out of 7 students getting a real education?
That's right.
That leaves about 85% of the students wallowing somewhere along the "proficient" zone. After they graduate when rubber hits the road. this group of students especially ultimately look back to discover a lot of the core flaws in their public school education. Many say they spent not enough time learning skills that they would find useful later in life.
A common universal complaint I hear: jr high and high school was about taking repetitive tests over virtually useless and outdated curriculum that has almost nothing to do with real world blue collar, white collar, private sector, public sector applications.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27231 Sep 8, 2013
Lerxst wrote:
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Go read Bowman's latest blog post located here: http://www.davidebowman.com/how-our-founding-...
What's interesting to note about his posts is that all he does is tell us why we should NOT vvote for the current board and completely avoids telling us why we SHOULD vote for Malone, Stuckey and Anderson. Not even the web site for those three has any information on the issues and/or their stances. Are we to vote for them based on popularity? Seems that is what they are relying on. That and the usual scorched earth, sky is falling scare tactics that we have been witness to in the last few years.
Can someone articulate their stances? If they want my vote it would be nice to know exactly what they intend to do. Simply stating "we are for the children" is not sufficient.
If they don't stand for anything they cannot be criticized for anything other than being meretricious.

Not much of a platform, but for some that is all that is required.
Celebrate Our Success

Akron, OH

#27232 Sep 8, 2013
Our Winning Agenda - Children's First Budget Works!

These should be happy days for everyone involved with Springboro Community City Schools – but not everyone is celebrating.
Kohls tells EAGnews some members of the local teachers union and their community supporters aren’t happy with the board’s decision to ask for a reduced levy.
“They think it’s giving back money, and you never do that,” Kohls says, adding that she speaks only for herself, not the board.
She says labor leaders want the district to tax residents at the maximum amount so its bank account is flush with cash when the next teachers’ contract is being negotiated. That way, district leaders won’t have any reason for denying the union its financial requests.
“They always want more,” Kohls says.
A national trend?
Kohls believes school districts across the U.S. could enjoy a similar turnaround, if they’d practice similar financial and leadership principles.
At the core of the board’s “children first” philosophy is the belief that school employees’ compensation – from salaried administrators to hourly support staff – should reflect the community norms.
For example, if the average resident is paying 20 percent of his or her health insurance costs and receiving a 2-3 percent annual raise, that’s what school employees should be getting, too, according to Kohls.
“I won’t agree to a labor contract unless I can look my constituents in the eye and say ‘It’s fair,’” Kohls says.
That doesn’t jibe with school employee unions that are always demanding more, and willing to use pressure tactics to get it.
That leads to Kohls’ second recommendation for other school board members who want to replicate Springboro’s success in their community: Learn the power of ‘No.’
Since most school board members receive only a small salary for their long hours and hard and often contentious work, most are unwilling to stand up to bullying union members and endure their abuse.
They end up giving in to union demands, just to make the unpleasantness stop.
But if a community is serious about fixing its school budget, Kohls says residents and board members have to “stop automatically saying ‘Yes’ to funding a system that’s not working academically or financially.”
“It doesn’t take more money,” she adds.“It takes accountability.”
via Fiscally conservative Ohio school board turns a deficit into a surplus while cutting taxes and giving raises – EAGnews.org powered by Education Action Group Foundation, Inc.
Celebrate Our Success

Akron, OH

#27233 Sep 8, 2013
"The prolems of the world, cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."
(John F. Kennedy)
__________

Mr. Malone, Where do you see the district heading?

There are a large number of unknown factors right now. The pattern at Springboro has been one of success when you look at any measurement out there. Our district has imporved drastically and is among the elite districts in the state. I sense that we are going in a different direction, and the question is, "will that direction lead us to continued improvement, or will it result in a decline in performance?" Only time will tell. amont

No Turning Back

Akron, OH

#27234 Sep 8, 2013
Celebrate Our Success wrote:
"The prolems of the world, cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."
(John F. Kennedy)
__________
Mr. Malone, Where do you see the district heading?
There are a large number of unknown factors right now. The pattern at Springboro has been one of success when you look at any measurement out there. Our district has improved drastically and is among the elite districts in the state. I sense that we are going in a different direction, and the question is, "will that direction lead us to continued improvement, or will it result in a decline in performance?" Only time will tell.
Some people get so entrenched in the old philosophy of status quo business as usual that it’s tough to get them to think whether or not something is going to help the kids.
No Turning Back

Akron, OH

#27235 Sep 8, 2013
The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let’s stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our children, schools and community. visit http://educatespringboro.org/
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27236 Sep 8, 2013
Celebrate Our Success wrote:
"The prolems of the world, cannot possibly be solved by skeptics or cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need men who can dream of things that never were."
(John F. Kennedy)
__________
Mr. Malone, Where do you see the district heading?
There are a large number of unknown factors right now. The pattern at Springboro has been one of success when you look at any measurement out there. Our district has imporved drastically and is among the elite districts in the state. I sense that we are going in a different direction, and the question is, "will that direction lead us to continued improvement, or will it result in a decline in performance?" Only time will tell. amont
I have looked at some of the other measures out there that measure things straight forwardly utilizing the metrics Mr. Malone himself did bring to bear while grading our PSEO students taking college courses.

What I found is in conflict with Mr. Malone's statement that the district has improved dramatically.
According to the math results on each Ohio Achievement Assessment for the past 4 years, we have seen a steady drumbeat of downward progression from Third Grade, where nearly 70% of the children are mastering at least 75% or better of the material, to the Eight Grade, where we find only 20% or so mastering the material.

This phenomenon recurs yearly and is clearly demonstrated year after year in the number of correct answers our children get right on the Ohio Achievement Assessment tests.

The Class of 2018 is quite representative of this trend, perhaps your child is one of the 500 plus children captured within these numbers.

Summary for the Class of 2018

Ohio Achievement Assessment Yearly Test Results

In 4th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 50%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 50%

In 5th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 35%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 65%

In 6th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 47%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 53%

In 7th grade we find
PASSING: 75% correct answers or better - 23%
FAILING: 74% correct answers or below - 77%

Looking at our test results on the Ohio Achievement Assessment (OAA) test it appears as though we are trending downward, not dramatically improving as Mr. Malone cares to claim.

If this is dramatic improvement to Mr. Malone, he must have been studying these numbers with his Everyday Math book.
Waste Watchers

Akron, OH

#27237 Sep 8, 2013
The HSTW reports and the WCESC reports prove to parents that Mr. Malone wasted school tax dollars by refusing to take advantage of opportunities for growth and change, once these were brought to his attention. Mr. Malone's mistakes were applauded by local, state, and national recognition, building up his reputation of being too insanely popular to be questioned of his failures in meeting the needs of his students best interest. Moving forward, parents are now asking: What good for our student's future education can come from what is learned about these past years of harmful illusions of excellent with distinction? What improvements do our current state standards offer and how can we hold local school leaders accountable? If kids aren't getting the quality education that taxpayers are so generously funding, why is the former high school principal campaigning for school board election to gain control of the children's first budget, so that the re-emphasis on the increased dollar value of the union teacher in every classroom, can be re-instated?
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#27238 Sep 8, 2013
Waste Watchers wrote:
The HSTW reports and the WCESC reports prove to parents that Mr. Malone wasted school tax dollars by refusing to take advantage of opportunities for growth and change, once these were brought to his attention. Mr. Malone's mistakes were applauded by local, state, and national recognition, building up his reputation of being too insanely popular to be questioned of his failures in meeting the needs of his students best interest. Moving forward, parents are now asking: What good for our student's future education can come from what is learned about these past years of harmful illusions of excellent with distinction? What improvements do our current state standards offer and how can we hold local school leaders accountable? If kids aren't getting the quality education that taxpayers are so generously funding, why is the former high school principal campaigning for school board election to gain control of the children's first budget, so that the re-emphasis on the increased dollar value of the union teacher in every classroom, can be re-instated?
Perhaps Springboro Families and Taxpaying homeowners should ask school board candidate, Ron Malone, to please explain why so many graduates of Springboro's Excellence with Distinction end up having to be forced to take college remedial classes, particularly in basic math functions?
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#27239 Sep 8, 2013
Could it be -

The type of education is the current problem. That must be solved before ways of funding it can be analyzed. In the most simplified form, teaching and the responsibility of education must shift back to the parents and away from government, particularly at the state and federal level. The collective summation of all a community’s children thrown into a big pot of stew while the parents run around doing whatever they feel like as community funded baby sitters take care of their offspring is not working. The parents get lazy because public teachers are raising their kids. Teachers get lazy at their jobs because there are no measurements of quality to keep their job. They get paid pretty much the same whether they are good or bad teachers because their collective bargaining agreement says so, an agreement that robs money from every home in a school district for a system that is a complete failure.
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#27240 Sep 9, 2013
Tell It Like It Is wrote:
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That certain slate of candidates representing union control of OUR schools that work for the best interest of the union MUST be targeted as the ENEMY of our children's first best interest.
This union army is well funded and deeply embedded in their diligent strategy of politics of personal destruction to take out their opposition, collect their spoils of war and retreat to the Ron Malone madness of status quo pro-union business as usual.
Now is not the time to return to the past failed leadership of former high school principal Ron Malone; former teacher/coach Dave Stuckey; former board member Charles Anderson; former failed school board candidate Lisa Babb; and Jamie Belanger who seeks to gain control of the board.
These vote for revenge union school board candidates will not lead our schools and community in the direction of opportunity for our children's future.
Inquiring minds must question the principles of the collective three school board candidates, Malone.Stuckey.Anderson, and get the message out that this threesome seek to reverse the successful direction in which our schools are headed, way beyond the November 2013 popularity contest at the polls. Inquiring minds must remember that Mr. Malone refused to "do it for the children" in March 2012 when he refused to accept a job promotion (with increased responsibilities) that would allow him to utilize his 40 years of educational expertise, to the benefit of all our students.
Mr. Malone chose the bottom line of gaining control of the Board of Education agenda by organizing Principal Ron's Kids community-wide March 2012 rally to "re-instate Ron Malone." Mr. Malone's self-interest priority, as high school principal, was to continue enjoying his popularity within the high school community. Isn't this November 2013 bid for school board election just a continuation of his good old "high school days?" And don't Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners demand much more in return for our investment in our students' quality classroom education for the 21st century?

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