There are 31918 comments on the Dayton Daily News story from Feb 5, 2008, titled Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies. In it, Dayton Daily News reports that:
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#25805 Jul 17, 2013
Nothing too dramatic, why don't we start by teaching the kids what are in those text books.
I bet just about all of the answers for those assessment tests are in those books.
#25806 Jul 17, 2013
Did You Know? They all believed "That pursuant to the provisions of Section 5705.194 of the Ohio Revised Code, it is necessary that a renewal tax be lievied i n excess of the ten-mill limitation for the benefit of this school district, for the purpose of avoiding an operating deficit in the amount of $7,916,500 per year for a five year (5) period, which is a reduction of $1,353,800 from the existing emergencvy tax levy." (Business Session Item 2.2 on July 15 special meeting agenda printed on BOE website).
Did You Know that the Babb/Bowman Sure opposition was unhappy because they wanted "all theirs" and all of the $9.2 million
in Additional levy approved!
The BOE voted unanimously for the affordable tax reduction for taxpayers! Picture Lisa Babb as elected board representative voting it ALL for the SEA; not because the SEA has earned
it; but because the SEA feels entitled to more than they need of the money that taxpayers have earned for themselves. Why is that?
#25807 Jul 17, 2013
Just Can't Picture Doug "biting that bullet."
#25808 Jul 17, 2013
Why no discussion today about the new contract that the union members approved in one vote and the BOE approved 5-0? Why no talk about the tax roll back.
While its not "perfect" for either side the agreement is good enough to satisfy both sides. Democracy at work. Something some community members tired so hard to destroy.
This is a very successfull BOE in my opinion! Amazing job.
#25809 Jul 17, 2013
The overwhelming majority of parents that are most vocal at board meetings seem to be in full support of the teachers. Yet all around town, up and down virtually every neighborhood the greed of the SEA and poor attitudes of certain Springboro teachers is openly criticized by parent after parent. Why this variance in opinion? Why aren't more of these parents coming to board meetings to constructively vent their frustrations? Could it be that the teachers through the leveraging of the SEA have in fact intimidated much of this district into remaining silent?
To put all of this in real-life terminology...If keeping their mouths shut by not attending board meetings meant their kids would get one higher letter grade per test, get onto the varsity squad, or land an important lead role in the school play, a very high percentage of Springboro parents would be more than happy to keep their mouths shut.
#25810 Jul 17, 2013
Bullet Point Number One
1) Actually teach the children the material that we find in the textbooks the taxpayers so generously fund.
If we are able to complete that task, the tests will take care of themselves.
#25811 Jul 17, 2013
I'm glad the teachers and the SEA stood strong in the face of our bully BOE and the majority of the narrow minded, anti-tax freaks on this forum. It's about time our teachers got the raises they've deserved for years. Now time to boot Kelly Kohls out this November!! Maybe drive her someplace where she and her friends can wave their confederate flags while we sit back and enjoy the show...
#25812 Jul 17, 2013
My kids carried home their math books, SS books, and science books all the time and had them open to do homework or studying. How are your kids learning?
#25813 Jul 17, 2013
Don't you know that no matter how much you rich people get, you will never enjoy your wealth; because you will always feel victimized that you don't have more of what belongs to your neighbors; but blessed are the poor, just filthy rich in gratitude and thanksgiving! But woe are the big loud and rich people; always demanding more, more, more! Shall we show our support and pity for you ....with a ribbon on our door?
#25814 Jul 17, 2013
Too bad for the Springboro Education Association that their negotiating tactics played out so negatively in front of the TV news cameras. Their bad behavior expressing such greed, with absolutely no thanks nor gratitude for the good wages and benefits that they already possess, certainly gives pause to one's response on whether or not to "pay up" at the polls with this renewal levy vote in November. Why in the world would Springboro citizens for responsible spending even consider rewarding the Springboro Education Association for such inappropriate behavior? Our school children deserve better role models. Our community has already paid enough and what have we received in return? Why should taxpayers reward such poor performance of educators with more money? They will only come back for more in two years, with the same old emotionally blackmail with the same old threats of striking against Springboro homeowners for more money. There is no end to the union bridge leading nowhere; just an endless waste of taxpayers dollars. No need to waste more in November on renewal levy. The more money we send to the union masters, the more fighting amongst themselves for more.
#25815 Jul 17, 2013
That is great, if they mastered all of the material in the books then they would have been in the 20% that was able to pass the math portion of the Ohio Achievement Assessment tests in the Junior High.
As for the other 80% who were unable to pass the test, maybe we could work Bullet Point #1 on them.
#25816 Jul 17, 2013
You betcha that ribbon is a just reward for the performances of our Springboro Education Association teachers! Let's Make That a Blue Ribbon for Excellence; but Not a Penny More in November Renewal Levy! Why Should Springboro Taxpayers Not Turn The Tables on SEA "YEA Teachers" ..... and do as we have been taught by the educators... and DEMAND that we get to keep it all in November!
Why not say NO to status quo?
#25817 Jul 17, 2013
No to (let me count the ways)...Babb, Jobe, Malone, Johantges and any other levy loving Nazi.
#25818 Jul 17, 2013
In the Star Press news article -Springboro Booster embezzler-sentenced- Warren County Prosecutor David Fornshell reminded non-profit organizations of the need to employ a system of checks and balances to make sure that no one person is in charge of cash receipts, bank accounts, and other financial responsibilities.
Fornshell, along with the Warren County Police Chiefs Association, recently sponsored a seminar to train volunteer leaders of youth, church, charitable, and other non-profit organizations as to how to avoid similar thefts from occurring in their organizations.
If the Athletic Boosters Board is operating as a non-profit organizaton, but declare that they are independent of the school board's authority, but they use school resources and students of the school to profit from, then where can accountability begin, and to whom? How can a system like the Boosters, with various branches of independent groups operating voluntarily, know how to keep their "checks and balances" from running into greedy disaster?
#25819 Jul 17, 2013
What's up with all the name calling? Are you really trying to compete with the nastiness of the Springboro Education Assoication teachers/union activists who lower themselves to the depts of their war of words indecency? Why not give it up? Do you really think it gets any lower than the SEA maney-acts?
#25820 Jul 17, 2013
From where I sit, I think the BOE majority (Kohls, Petroni, Rigano) agreed to accept the mediator's contract recommendation for two reasons:
1.) Give the raises in return for the Union dropping the negotiation violation charges, and
2.) Try and minimize the negative publicity around Kelly Kohl's and her reelection bid.
If this had gone on further, especially if it resulted in a strike, Petroni and Rigano would be almost assured of becoming a 2 person minority on the BOE. Now with the strike avoided, they hope to avoid that additional negative publicity. Trying to cut their losses. Still plenty of fodder for the other side with the circus they started around the Constitution and other subjects, the human resources court case facing them, etc.
In my opinion, the BOE majority's support of the new contract is all about trying to cut their losses and protect at least one BOE seat in the upcoming election.
Additionally, I think they should have kept the levy at the previous $9.2M level. This would allowed for the reinstatement of some services/classes previously cut, make some progress vs. growing class sizes and provide some risk management if the state funding and other anticipated new revenue sources don't pan out. Reducing the levy amount was another political move, not good fiscal management. Penny wise, pound foolish.
#25822 Jul 17, 2013
The 15% or so of reduced levy was because of the 12.5% tax increase to property owners included in the State Budget, on all new and renewal local levies that pass on the November ballot. So the taxpayer really got only about 2.5% reduction while the state got the rest. Taxpayers never get a break, only enslavement to the union mans rights of collective bargaining laws that are 100% wrong for our childrens future.
#25823 Jul 18, 2013
There is no doubt that there is some truth in this statement. The board had to realize that being in the evening news every single night is not good for the community or for the children.
The one thing that I do find amusing is the thought that all the parents, teachers, citizens, firemen, police officers, city workers, etc. will somehow forget what an idiot Kelly Kohls is. In Novemeber, we will remember, and no matter how Kelly tries to smooth things over she is done for. Her bags should be packed, her political career of extremism and attacking those who work for a living and actually pay their bills will be over in a few short months.
#25824 Jul 18, 2013
That is a bit harsh and a little overstated, wouldn't you say.
Manufactured crisis after manufactured crisis, along with some self induced pain on Ms. Kohls part produced your blog.
Too many good things have transpired during Ms. Kohls term of office to let them go unsung.
No New Money Levies were run.
Full bussing restored to all schools.
A technology plan that was conceived and instituted that actually works.
Reduction of the pay to play scam from $475 per child to $265 with the option to drop it further to $165 if they took advantage of Mr. Rigano's service program
Booster Scandal uncovered thanks in part to Ms. Kohls support on the board.
$2.5 million dollars allocated and earmarked for textbook updates at the discretion of Ms. Strittenberger
Bus replacement program put in place to address aging and increasingly unsafe and neglected bus fleet. With support from Ms. Kohls, Mr. Petroni put together a program that provides a financially sound method of acquiring the necessary transportation for our children, not just this year, but into the future as well.
Two new contracts with our support staff and our teachers, all received raises for this year and next.
All while maintaining fiscal spending which projects NO new money levies for the next 4 years and keeps us within our financial means.
No teachers lost their jobs through Reductions in Force, in fact the BOE increased the number of teachers working in our district.
To put this in perspective, our loyal opposition projected catastrophic consequences if we did not pass one of the five failed $35,000,000 -$45,000,000 levies from 2008-2010.
All of the above was accomplished by a BOE that stayed the course in the face of hardened opposition from the union and its supporters who managed to throw roadblock or obstruction at every turn.
This is not the end but merely the beginning of a system that works in a transparent fashion in a fiscally responsible way for the well being and edification of our children.
Not a bad record if you look at things objectively.
#25825 Jul 18, 2013
The only thing SEA supporters seem to want to "look at objectively" are ways to creatively waste ever increasing amounts of the taxpayer's hard-earned green salad of salvation.
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