Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Read the Contract wrote:
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You obviously don't know what is in the contract. The money and this Callender Group will not answer the questions parents have about the academic achievements of our students. The first phase of the contract doesn't even require them to look out Springboro schools at all!
And you obviously don't know that it makes no difference what is in the contract that was not voted on by the board; but instead the vote on the contract was tabled. There is NO contract at this point; there are many of those who attended the January 10 fiasco in the high school auditorium, who hope that the board will bring back a contract that all board members can fully suppport in the best interest of meeting the needs of all our children' s future education.
Till then (and who knows when) it is futile and boring to continue beating down this dead issus of the contract "that never was."
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So why is Mr. Petrey not communicating this information to district parents, using the new website resources and the boro e-newsletters? Why is this PEOS not promoted as a cost savings to taxpayers in this school district who are wondering: why are we being taxed for more course credits of extra-curriculars that are beyond graduation requirements?
First of all it is PSEOP which stands for Post Secondary Enrollment Options Program. All students should be aware of the program, it is explained in the High School Program of Studies booklet. I would hope that as a parent you have taken the time to look through the program of studies book with your student to figure out what classes they will be taking each year. We as parents should be able to figure out the benefits of the program by reading the book and if you want more information or have questions then attend the informational meeting - it's not hard. There are many complaints on this site about student achievement and test scores, but maybe the parents need to also increase their knowledge of the school system and the opportunities available.
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Interesting that the bullies in the crowd that were shouting out, booing and hissing are now the ones trying to make themselves look like victims. These people are spreading rumors now that the board was not paying attention, not crying as they thought they should be and those board members were not intimidated at all.
My guess is that board members are not intimidated by this same old disrespect, rumor mongers, and levy ladies. One thing for sure is that for the first time I have ever attended I saw Don Miller actually pay attention to speakers. Maybe the rumors work on someone.
Who knows if the board members are not intimidated by this same old disrespect, rumor mongers, and levy ladies? One thing for sure is that it is not enough that Don Miller actually pay attention to speakers; Don Miller should actually state to the participating bullies that he does NOT approve of type of public bullying; after all, Don Miller is the only board member still sitting as bully-in-chief on board now beginning the eighth. And the public knows that these community bullies are Don Miller's special peeps cheering and jeering for greater empowerment of the Springboro Education Association over our classroom teachers and school tax dollars.
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Springboro has the highest paid superintendent than all others before him; but he is new on the job; and quite vulnerable to falling for the political strategy of crafty community activist groups.
Where have you been hiding? He already has!
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Lurker wrote:
So you don't have a problem with 2 of our board members having a PAC?
You don't think they are using their PAC to influence public opinion?
David Bowman is writing factual articles about our schools and our school board.
Does that scare you?
David Bowman blogs and articles spreading lies and attacking the character of others on our school board do not scare me at all- just totally disgust me, thats's all.
I choose to avoid reading David Bowman's low opinions; and find it disgusting to be subjected to his personal opinions at public board meetings.
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Remember the hissy fit the PTO Moms and Levy Ladies and SEA activists threw last year over getting their program of studies that Malone brought in crammed down our throats, in a big hurry, so that Malone could hire more union teachers so that the kiddies could take guitar lessons?
It seems there is a long standing pattern in this school district of the same group of self-interest activists trying to claim the school tax dollars paid by all school district voters; for their own small closely-knit group's personal agenda.
Several times during the January 10 protest, there were diruptive yells of "It's OUR money."
Why do these rude and rowdy community members (who descend upon these board meetings like vultures) think they have special privileges to claim they speak for an entire community of taxpayers, as if they OWN ALL OUR money to spend as these few community activists see fit to their personal agendas?
its ALL OF OUR money

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Remember When wrote:
Remember the hissy fit the PTO Moms and Levy Ladies and SEA activists threw last year over getting their program of studies that Malone brought in crammed down our throats, in a big hurry, so that Malone could hire more union teachers so that the kiddies could take guitar lessons?
It seems there is a long standing pattern in this school district of the same group of self-interest activists trying to claim the school tax dollars paid by all school district voters; for their own small closely-knit group's personal agenda.
Several times during the January 10 protest, there were disuptive yells of "It's OUR money."
Why do these rude and rowdy community members (who descend upon these board meetings like vultures) think they have special privileges to claim they speak for an entire community of taxpayers, as if they OWN ALL OUR money to spend as these few community activists see fit to their personal agendas?
"It's OUR money!"..."It's OUR money!"..."It's OUR money!"...

..all the while board member Miller sat quietly in the auditorium's cat-bird seat, he did the best he could not to break a smile while he basked in an unmistakable aura of absolute greed being exuded from union-first thinkers.
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David Bowman blogs and articles spreading lies and attacking the character of others on our school board do not scare me at all- just totally disgust me, thats's all.
I choose to avoid reading David Bowman's low opinions; and find it disgusting to be subjected to his personal opinions at public board meetings.
You might learn something if you read his articles!!! Maybe some of us are tired of your personal opinion!
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Boys Basketball game tonight at the High School

Dine 'N Dunks Dinner before the game in the cafeteria

Tonight's menu: Spaghetti, breadsticks, salad, and a drink.

Bring a date before the game, grab dinner, and watch the game.
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I forgot to mention, ALL proceeds go to the Athletic Fund to offset the cost of all of our athletic programs.

So support a good cause, save yourself the rushing around, bring the family to dinner with your friends before the game.
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READ wrote:
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You might learn something if you read his articles!!! Maybe some of us are tired of your personal opinion!
Then Don't Read Personal Opinions that you are tired of.
Just as junk food adds unhealthy extra baggage to our physical bodies; unhealthy junk food for thought bogs down our minds and clear judgement.

"A man who is pleased when he receives good instruction will sleep peacefully, because his mind is thereby cleansed."
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READ wrote:
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You might learn something if you read his articles!!! Maybe some of us are tired of your personal opinion!
It is better to know nothing than to learn nothing.
-Hebrew Proverb
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"But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on yur most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." - Jude 20,21
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Have you read the latest Springboro schools newsletter, in which the kindgergarten teachers' anti-bullying lessons to kids are in the spotlight?

Isn't this a waste of taxpayers money in light of the bullying behavior of teachers and parents seen modeled at public school board meetings on January 10 and January 22?

"In teaching children we must seek insensibly to unite knowledge with the carrying out of that knowldge into practice." -Immanuel Kant
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I must admit to be slightly amused at all of the demands for transparency from the Board on anything they do.

I contrast that with demands for transparency from our Athletic Programs. Whether it be the Booster Club, The Fan Store, a public accounting of each sports teams finances, etc. All of these were supposed to be filing financial reports monthly with the Superintendent's Office. A repeated public records request turned up a few pieces of paper here and there, but nothing that resembled anything like a real financial statement, or even general accounting ledger.

I hear not a word of exhortation from the people who are howling about $15,000 being spent to investigate better ways of educating our children, but raise not a word over the unaccounted $1,000,000 athletic budget.

I watch as pork barrel employment practices for the junior high basketball games balloon out of control, while they neglect to raise one dime to help offset those same costs.

Since second grade every player in the select basketball program has been supported by their parents donating their time and effort. Running the clock, doing the books, collecting the money at the gate, and manning the concessions stands when call upon.

Suddenly, in the 7th grade, we find that the only people qualified to run a time clock are school employees being paid $25 per game to do so. The only people who can run a set of books are school employees who are paid $25 per game to write down who scored. The only people capable of collecting money at the door are school employees, once again on the payroll.

The athletic director claims she is not capable of running a concession stand, every other venue we visit is capable of doing so and does, with the exception of Xenia. Instead the athletic director at the junior high and the principal say it's best to use the vending machines where we get a cool $100 per week or so from 8 the games played in our gym each week. When we ran our own concessions we made $3500 over a two month period.

This same athletic director used to be the person at the gate collecting the admission fees and selling concessions, of course it did cut into the amount of time she had for reading.

Please don't cry those crocodile tears for me when you complain about fraud and waste, we see it every day.
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Just Watching wrote:
I must admit to be slightly amused at all of the demands for transparency from the Board on anything they do.
I contrast that with demands for transparency from our Athletic Programs. Whether it be the Booster Club, The Fan Store, a public accounting of each sports teams finances, etc. All of these were supposed to be filing financial reports monthly with the Superintendent's Office. A repeated public records request turned up a few pieces of paper here and there, but nothing that resembled anything like a real financial statement, or even general accounting ledger.
I hear not a word of exhortation from the people who are howling about $15,000 being spent to investigate better ways of educating our children, but raise not a word over the unaccounted $1,000,000 athletic budget.
I watch as pork barrel employment practices for the junior high basketball games balloon out of control, while they neglect to raise one dime to help offset those same costs.
Since second grade every player in the select basketball program has been supported by their parents donating their time and effort. Running the clock, doing the books, collecting the money at the gate, and manning the concessions stands when call upon.
Suddenly, in the 7th grade, we find that the only people qualified to run a time clock are school employees being paid $25 per game to do so. The only people who can run a set of books are school employees who are paid $25 per game to write down who scored. The only people capable of collecting money at the door are school employees, once again on the payroll.
The athletic director claims she is not capable of running a concession stand, every other venue we visit is capable of doing so and does, with the exception of Xenia. Instead the athletic director at the junior high and the principal say it's best to use the vending machines where we get a cool $100 per week or so from 8 the games played in our gym each week. When we ran our own concessions we made $3500 over a two month period.
This same athletic director used to be the person at the gate collecting the admission fees and selling concessions, of course it did cut into the amount of time she had for reading.
Please don't cry those crocodile tears for me when you complain about fraud and waste, we see it every day.
Ahh.... but maybe there is a reason why school employees work the games! Think about this....if parents worked the games at the JH level (clock, book, tickets), there might be an EXPECTATION for their son/daughter to get more playing time. By having school employees do these things there is no expectation.
Its sounds to me like you might have a "bee in your bonnet" over something at the JH level....what might that bee be?
You are a very grumpy and cynical man, Just Watching! Get a job, get a life, and get happy....
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Just Watching wrote:
I must admit to be slightly amused at all of the demands for transparency from the Board on anything they do.
I contrast that with demands for transparency from our Athletic Programs. Whether it be the Booster Club, The Fan Store, a public accounting of each sports teams finances, etc. All of these were supposed to be filing financial reports monthly with the Superintendent's Office. A repeated public records request turned up a few pieces of paper here and there, but nothing that resembled anything like a real financial statement, or even general accounting ledger.
I hear not a word of exhortation from the people who are howling about $15,000 being spent to investigate better ways of educating our children, but raise not a word over the unaccounted $1,000,000 athletic budget.
I watch as pork barrel employment practices for the junior high basketball games balloon out of control, while they neglect to raise one dime to help offset those same costs.
Since second grade every player in the select basketball program has been supported by their parents donating their time and effort. Running the clock, doing the books, collecting the money at the gate, and manning the concessions stands when call upon.
Suddenly, in the 7th grade, we find that the only people qualified to run a time clock are school employees being paid $25 per game to do so. The only people who can run a set of books are school employees who are paid $25 per game to write down who scored. The only people capable of collecting money at the door are school employees, once again on the payroll.
The athletic director claims she is not capable of running a concession stand, every other venue we visit is capable of doing so and does, with the exception of Xenia. Instead the athletic director at the junior high and the principal say it's best to use the vending machines where we get a cool $100 per week or so from 8 the games played in our gym each week. When we ran our own concessions we made $3500 over a two month period.
This same athletic director used to be the person at the gate collecting the admission fees and selling concessions, of course it did cut into the amount of time she had for reading.
Please don't cry those crocodile tears for me when you complain about fraud and waste, we see it every day.
Dear Doug,
I truly feel sorry for your two daughters and your young son. The way you act in public at board meetings, setting up appointments with your sons basketball coach and said AD, setting up appointments with a guidance counselor to complain about PSEO and how the school is not doing what they are supposed to be doing by law (which they do by the way, meeting was held in Feb) is more than like mortifying for your young children. The way your wife scolded a young man on your sons team for not paying for pregame meals yet (does she have any idea how embarrassing it is to be called out for not having money in front of your friends) Did you ever think that as 7th graders parents probably want to watch their kids play instead of running books and feeding people at a concession stand? When you were in your "select" days the people running the concession stands were probably parents of younger or older teams (you have 7 levels to choose from) at the junior high you don't have that option anymore, parents want to watch their kids not embarrass them like you do. I'm glad teachers are there to do this and yes they do deserve to be paid for their services. I want to watch my son play in the game, not worry about who has how many fouls or points nor do I want to be selling snickers and popcorn to people. I want to watch my son and his teammates on the court. You seriously need to either one, get a job, or two, start enjoying your kids youth. Don't make them go to school and have their friends ask why their dad is always posting on Topix and what not. How about putting YOUR kids first and you and your wife quit embarrassing them daily.
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Just Watching wrote:
I must admit to be slightly amused at all of the demands for transparency from the Board on anything they do.
I contrast that with demands for transparency from our Athletic Programs. Whether it be the Booster Club, The Fan Store, a public accounting of each sports teams finances, etc. All of these were supposed to be filing financial reports monthly with the Superintendent's Office. A repeated public records request turned up a few pieces of paper here and there, but nothing that resembled anything like a real financial statement, or even general accounting ledger.
I hear not a word of exhortation from the people who are howling about $15,000 being spent to investigate better ways of educating our children, but raise not a word over the unaccounted $1,000,000 athletic budget.
I watch as pork barrel employment practices for the junior high basketball games balloon out of control, while they neglect to raise one dime to help offset those same costs.
Since second grade every player in the select basketball program has been supported by their parents donating their time and effort. Running the clock, doing the books, collecting the money at the gate, and manning the concessions stands when call upon.
Suddenly, in the 7th grade, we find that the only people qualified to run a time clock are school employees being paid $25 per game to do so. The only people who can run a set of books are school employees who are paid $25 per game to write down who scored. The only people capable of collecting money at the door are school employees, once again on the payroll.
The athletic director claims she is not capable of running a concession stand, every other venue we visit is capable of doing so and does, with the exception of Xenia. Instead the athletic director at the junior high and the principal say it's best to use the vending machines where we get a cool $100 per week or so from 8 the games played in our gym each week. When we ran our own concessions we made $3500 over a two month period.
This same athletic director used to be the person at the gate collecting the admission fees and selling concessions, of course it did cut into the amount of time she had for reading.
Please don't cry those crocodile tears for me when you complain about fraud and waste, we see it every day.
Dear Doug,
I truly feel sorry for your two young daughters and young son. The way you and your wife act around Springboro is sad. Your wife ripping into a young man for not paying for his pregame meals yet within earshot of all of his friends (does she realize how embarrassing it is to be called out for not having money) is unthinkable. You setting up meetings with guidance counselors to complain about PSEO (which by the way they do hold meetings like they are supposed too, meeting was in Feb of 2012) or setting up a meeting with your sons coach and said AD. Having teachers work the book and take tickets and run scoreboards is a great thing. And yes, they do deserve to be paid for their time. You referred to parents doing this during "select" games, obviously you forgot that there are seven age groups of parents to run the books and concession stands Doug. At the junior high games you don't have that luxury anymore. I for one want to watch my son play, I do not want to work the clock,collect tickets or sell Sniker Bars to people like you. You are wrong on so many levels of what you post on here Doug, the high school does do what they are supposed too and the junior high AD does a fantastic job. You need to get off of Topix and enjoy your young children as they grow up, you have lost all credibility on here. "Just Watching" you make an A$$ of yourself is getting really old.
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Mixed wrote:
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Dear Doug,
I truly feel sorry for your two daughters and your young son. The way you act in public at board meetings, setting up appointments with your sons basketball coach and said AD, setting up appointments with a guidance counselor to complain about PSEO and how the school is not doing what they are supposed to be doing by law (which they do by the way, meeting was held in Feb) is more than like mortifying for your young children. The way your wife scolded a young man on your sons team for not paying for pregame meals yet (does she have any idea how embarrassing it is to be called out for not having money in front of your friends) Did you ever think that as 7th graders parents probably want to watch their kids play instead of running books and feeding people at a concession stand? When you were in your "select" days the people running the concession stands were probably parents of younger or older teams (you have 7 levels to choose from) at the junior high you don't have that option anymore, parents want to watch their kids not embarrass them like you do. I'm glad teachers are there to do this and yes they do deserve to be paid for their services. I want to watch my son play in the game, not worry about who has how many fouls or points nor do I want to be selling snickers and popcorn to people. I want to watch my son and his teammates on the court. You seriously need to either one, get a job, or two, start enjoying your kids youth. Don't make them go to school and have their friends ask why their dad is always posting on Topix and what not. How about putting YOUR kids first and you and your wife quit embarrassing them daily.
This sounds liked Wiedeman has struck a raw nerve with some people who like to keep everyone in the dark. I notice that you didn't realize each team took care of their own team with their own parents in select. Nobody cried or complained.
And you aren't supposed to speak with your kids teachers, advisors, or coaches? That seems stupid.
And that pay to play has gone down from $375 to $160. If my math is any good and we did as Wiedeman suggested it would almost go to zero.

Keep raising the questions it seems to bother some people that it should.
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Practice What You Teach wrote:
Have you read the latest Springboro schools newsletter, in which the kindgergarten teachers' anti-bullying lessons to kids are in the spotlight?
Isn't this a waste of taxpayers money in light of the bullying behavior of teachers and parents seen modeled at public school board meetings on January 10 and January 22?
"In teaching children we must seek insensibly to unite knowledge with the carrying out of that knowldge into practice." -Immanuel Kant
It's nothing less than hypocritical for our Springboro teachers to be speaking out against bullying, when next month at their Atlanta national teacher's meeting, notorious BULLY pro-communist, pro-domestic terrorist Bill Ayers is scheduled to be one of the keynote speakers.

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