Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

[Bowman]

Ok so anyone else find this persons blogging/timing very interesting?
His business is social communications activism. He started his blogg in November and negotiations are coming up soon. You see, negotiations are won and lost in the public eye first. Is this an employee or just a "concerned parent"?

If you understand how public perception is swayed and how Obama won you see through the clouds here.

You have to make everyone believe that success is bad and someone is a victim, if you accomplish that you have the underdog syndrome. If you feel that teachers are being mistreated they become the underdog and the sympathy goes in their direction. Obama did it. It has now become your legal obligation to spread your wealth and to be ashamed for your successes.

Check it out.
http://ohlmanngroup.com/about/people/david-e-...

[Lurker]

So you don't have a problem with 2 of our board members having a PAC?

You don't think they are using their PAC to influence public opinion?

David Bowman is writing factual articles about our schools and our school board.

Does that scare you?

[Just Watching]

we agree wrote:

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I agree - so why are we putting our money in one company's hands before we have had input from other sources (that are free to the district) like talking to Miamisburg and West Carrollton Principals, or other people that have started conversion schools?

You are going to have to do all of it before you get done, so the sooner we get going the better off all will be.

Picture the program as a tree with many branches all coming back to the trunk in the center.
3 dimensional, 360 degrees in any direction, lots of information that needs to be fed into the decision making process from the branches on all sides, above, and below.

We are capable doing more than one thing at a time.

[Just Watching]

Lurker wrote:

So you don't have a problem with 2 of our board members having a PAC?
You don't think they are using their PAC to influence public opinion?
David Bowman is writing factual articles about our schools and our school board.
Does that scare you?

Anyone can have a PAC and they all do the same thing, what is wrong with that part of the equation?

That is what PAC's do, you might have missed them in the most recent set of elections we had last fall.

I would like David's blog better if he reopened the comment section. I understand that sometimes people may disagree with his point of view, but out of that discussion come the fruits of debate.

Ask David if he is afraid of the factual debate.

[Accountibility]

Looking for honesty wrote:

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Good point
Poster wrote that we should ask the principals of other districts that have conversion schools. Now why would they be inclined to be biased?
Why wouldn't a Principal or Superintendent tell the truth? Well lets see, if there is a pocket of State money and you have sole access to it, would you want to tell everyone how you are getting monies that would run out if you tell everyone else how to get it?
Come on, find an unbiased source of conversion school information.
My experience has been that a principal or super does not know how to tell the truth about money. Supers are like zombies that just process information and then spew it out as "give me money, feed me, don't get in the way of the money". I would give my kingdom to find a honest public school superintendent. Springboro might have the only one.

Springboro has the highest paid superintendent than all others before him; but he is new on the job; and quite vulnerable to falling for the political strategy of crafty community activists groups; citizens must stay informed and hold Mr. Petrey accountabile to work for all Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners investing our school tax dollars in the best interest of education for individual students; not just the collective best interest of public schools.

School boards, not superintendents, are the boss and should act like it

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/edito...

[Inquiring Minds]

Just Watching wrote:

Keep your eye on the prize, not the obstructionist who insist on keeping the mushrooms in the cave feasting on the stuff that makes mushrooms grow.
2000 plus kids getting a substandard education that no teacher would grant as acceptable in their own homes.
Tens of thousands of dollars that can be saved by utilizing programs that have been in existence for over 16 years that have not been promoted in this district.
The amount of money we collectively, as a community, have lost out on just this past decade would run into the millions.
PEOS, why keep children hanging out in the high school when they have enough credits to graduate, when they could be earning college credits funded by this state program?
The state wants your child to do well. College is extremely expensive, to keep this program from the community at large is tantamount to criminal action.

So why is Mr. Petrey not communicating this information to district parents, using the new website resources and the boro e-newsletters? Why is this PEOS not promoted as a cost savings to taxpayers in this school district who are wondering: why are we being taxed for more course credits of extra-curriculars that are beyond graduation requirements?

[Inquiring Minds]

Just Watching wrote:

Last summer, the Springboro Police Department received a complaint from newly installed officers of the Clearcreek Youth Soccer Association about discrepancies in the organization’s bank accounts.
Read more: http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/local_news/Court...
And I wonder if a complaint was filed by the Boosters about a similar situation?
If so, where are the results from that one?
If not, why not?

Why have these questions about what happened to that Boosters investigation been drowned out by the applause of Mr. Petrey's recognition certificates at the January 22 public school board meeting? And what are the details of that 80-20 sports contract deal coming up with the individual sports coaches?
Are these the same coaches that have refused transparency in their financial records?

[Read the Contract]

Just Because wrote:

Our Springboro school district should invest the
$15,000 consulting fee to explore needed answers to the many questions, that all Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners are now asking, about the academic achievements of our students, vs the reputation of success enjoyed by our excellent with distinction rating (which now appears to be pumped up by boro pep squads, cheering on how great our union teachers are).

You obviously don't know what is in the contract. The money and this Callender Group will not answer the questions parents have about the academic achievements of our students. The first phase of the contract doesn't even require them to look out Springboro schools at all!

[PAC]

Lurker wrote:

So you don't have a problem with 2 of our board members having a PAC?
You don't think they are using their PAC to influence public opinion?
David Bowman is writing factual articles about our schools and our school board.
Does that scare you?

Which two have a PAC?
If Lisa gets on this board she has a PAC is that scary for you?

[PAC]

Many of us are on boards of many orgs. For example, I am on the board of the hospital, Health Dept and two others, does this mean that I can't possibly have another interest that may be political?
Having a PAC should mean a person is involved and unafraid to speak in support of what they believe.
I see no problem with that.

[Who Knows]

Read the Contract wrote:

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You obviously don't know what is in the contract. The money and this Callender Group will not answer the questions parents have about the academic achievements of our students. The first phase of the contract doesn't even require them to look out Springboro schools at all!

And you obviously don't know that it makes no difference what is in the contract that was not voted on by the board; but instead the vote on the contract was tabled. There is NO contract at this point; there are many of those who attended the January 10 fiasco in the high school auditorium, who hope that the board will bring back a contract that all board members can fully suppport in the best interest of meeting the needs of all our children' s future education.
Till then (and who knows when) it is futile and boring to continue beating down this dead issus of the contract "that never was."

[PSEOP]

Inquiring Minds wrote:

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So why is Mr. Petrey not communicating this information to district parents, using the new website resources and the boro e-newsletters? Why is this PEOS not promoted as a cost savings to taxpayers in this school district who are wondering: why are we being taxed for more course credits of extra-curriculars that are beyond graduation requirements?

First of all it is PSEOP which stands for Post Secondary Enrollment Options Program. All students should be aware of the program, it is explained in the High School Program of Studies booklet. I would hope that as a parent you have taken the time to look through the program of studies book with your student to figure out what classes they will be taking each year. We as parents should be able to figure out the benefits of the program by reading the book and if you want more information or have questions then attend the informational meeting - it's not hard. There are many complaints on this site about student achievement and test scores, but maybe the parents need to also increase their knowledge of the school system and the opportunities available.

[Who Knows]

bullies at BOE meetings wrote:

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Interesting that the bullies in the crowd that were shouting out, booing and hissing are now the ones trying to make themselves look like victims. These people are spreading rumors now that the board was not paying attention, not crying as they thought they should be and those board members were not intimidated at all.
My guess is that board members are not intimidated by this same old disrespect, rumor mongers, and levy ladies. One thing for sure is that for the first time I have ever attended I saw Don Miller actually pay attention to speakers. Maybe the rumors work on someone.

Who knows if the board members are not intimidated by this same old disrespect, rumor mongers, and levy ladies? One thing for sure is that it is not enough that Don Miller actually pay attention to speakers; Don Miller should actually state to the participating bullies that he does NOT approve of type of public bullying; after all, Don Miller is the only board member still sitting as bully-in-chief on board now beginning the eighth. And the public knows that these community bullies are Don Miller's special peeps cheering and jeering for greater empowerment of the Springboro Education Association over our classroom teachers and school tax dollars.

[two As in accountability]

Accountibility wrote:

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Springboro has the highest paid superintendent than all others before him; but he is new on the job; and quite vulnerable to falling for the political strategy of crafty community activist groups.

Where have you been hiding? He already has!

[Scoffer]

Lurker wrote:

So you don't have a problem with 2 of our board members having a PAC?
You don't think they are using their PAC to influence public opinion?
David Bowman is writing factual articles about our schools and our school board.
Does that scare you?

David Bowman blogs and articles spreading lies and attacking the character of others on our school board do not scare me at all- just totally disgust me, thats's all.
I choose to avoid reading David Bowman's low opinions; and find it disgusting to be subjected to his personal opinions at public board meetings.

[Remember When]

Remember the hissy fit the PTO Moms and Levy Ladies and SEA activists threw last year over getting their program of studies that Malone brought in crammed down our throats, in a big hurry, so that Malone could hire more union teachers so that the kiddies could take guitar lessons?
It seems there is a long standing pattern in this school district of the same group of self-interest activists trying to claim the school tax dollars paid by all school district voters; for their own small closely-knit group's personal agenda.
Several times during the January 10 protest, there were diruptive yells of "It's OUR money."
Why do these rude and rowdy community members (who descend upon these board meetings like vultures) think they have special privileges to claim they speak for an entire community of taxpayers, as if they OWN ALL OUR money to spend as these few community activists see fit to their personal agendas?

[its ALL OF OUR money]

Remember When wrote:

Remember the hissy fit the PTO Moms and Levy Ladies and SEA activists threw last year over getting their program of studies that Malone brought in crammed down our throats, in a big hurry, so that Malone could hire more union teachers so that the kiddies could take guitar lessons?
It seems there is a long standing pattern in this school district of the same group of self-interest activists trying to claim the school tax dollars paid by all school district voters; for their own small closely-knit group's personal agenda.
Several times during the January 10 protest, there were disuptive yells of "It's OUR money."
Why do these rude and rowdy community members (who descend upon these board meetings like vultures) think they have special privileges to claim they speak for an entire community of taxpayers, as if they OWN ALL OUR money to spend as these few community activists see fit to their personal agendas?

"It's OUR money!"..."It's OUR money!"..."It's OUR money!"...

..all the while board member Miller sat quietly in the auditorium's cat-bird seat, he did the best he could not to break a smile while he basked in an unmistakable aura of absolute greed being exuded from union-first thinkers.

[READ]

Scoffer wrote:

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David Bowman blogs and articles spreading lies and attacking the character of others on our school board do not scare me at all- just totally disgust me, thats's all.
I choose to avoid reading David Bowman's low opinions; and find it disgusting to be subjected to his personal opinions at public board meetings.

You might learn something if you read his articles!!! Maybe some of us are tired of your personal opinion!

[Just Watching]

Boys Basketball game tonight at the High School

Dine 'N Dunks Dinner before the game in the cafeteria

Tonight's menu: Spaghetti, breadsticks, salad, and a drink.

Bring a date before the game, grab dinner, and watch the game.

[Just Watching]

I forgot to mention, ALL proceeds go to the Athletic Fund to offset the cost of all of our athletic programs.

So support a good cause, save yourself the rushing around, bring the family to dinner with your friends before the game.